The Future PC as a Set of Pens? 327
Strudelkugel writes "The Wave Report covers a concept PC that NEC is working on, called P-ISM. (Maybe the name doesn't work, but it looks cool.) The design concept uses five different pens to make a computer. One pen is a CPU, another a camera, one creates a virtual keyboard, another projects the visual output and thus the display and another a communicator (a phone). All five pens can rest in a holding block which recharges the batteries and holds the mass storage. Each pen communicates wirelessly with the others."
Power Rangers Bastardization (Score:5, Funny)
Just imagine, one pen a different color (Red, Blue, Black, Yellow and Pink).
Camera!
Virtual Keyboard
Output!
Phone!
CPU!
I can imagine there would also be Green, Purple and White pens. These would be evil addon pens.
I can't imagine what they'd fight against. It would be the lamest thing since Gumby.
Re:Power Rangers Bastardization (Score:3, Funny)
Um.. Voltron?
"And I'll form... the head!"
P-ISM (Score:5, Funny)
I'm just wondering, if P-ISM is the name of this product, what are they going to call the Java-enabled version?
Even Better Than That (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Power Rangers Bastardization (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Power Rangers Bastardization (Score:5, Funny)
Pencils?
One Question....... (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Power Rangers Bastardization (Score:5, Funny)
No, no you,ve got it all wrong It's: with their powers combined they become: CAPTAIN PLANET
the first pens that are capable of hugging trees on their own, and you thought your show was lame!
Comment removed (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Power Rangers Bastardization (Score:4, Funny)
It's expected to be hard to use.
New Computer, New Name (Score:5, Funny)
That way we can truthfully say:
"I do all my productive work now with my pen-is!"
Re:Power Rangers Bastardization (Score:4, Funny)
I think you need a new 'display' pen...
either that or your display pen is using WEP... i should check for a SMTP server on it... you might be peddling gen.er.ic V!I!A!G!R!A! to the world...
Chew, chew, chew (Score:5, Funny)
Reinout
Re:Chew, chew, chew (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Chew, chew, chew (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Chew, chew, chew (Score:4, Funny)
I can just see it now. An office stationary cupboard becomes self-aware and takes over the world with the aid of the geometry section of the local office suppliers and a couple of sets of Hot-Wheels...
Hey! That's My pen!!! (Score:5, Funny)
I'm reminded of the old Kids in the Hall sketch. "Hey, That's my pen!!!"
Re:Hey! That's My pen!!! (Score:3, Funny)
A little too out there.... (Score:2, Insightful)
Make it 5 pocket protectors instead (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Make it 5 pocket protectors instead (Score:5, Funny)
Personally... (Score:5, Funny)
Looks neat, but (Score:5, Interesting)
That projector pen would definitely be nice though, I hope they make it project far and wide (and sharp).
Re:Looks neat, but (Score:5, Interesting)
Secondly, there are a lot of "keyboards" out there that don't have any tactile feedback yet sell well enough: think of touchscreen ticket machines, for example (ooh er, perhaps there aren't any in the US since there's precious little public transport).
Also, consider decoupling the projector mechanism from the detector: the projected keyboard is simply a guide for the operator. The detector is a robust, solid-state item that can be made extremely rugged. The "keyboard" could be etched on steel for vandal-proof phones with internet access keyboards, for example. Or keypads in extreme temperature/chemical environments. They don't have to be one of NEC's never-see-the-light-of-day toys.
Finally, the sensor doesn't have to be configured as a keyboard at all. It could be a mousepad area, where you don't need a mouse: any object would do.
Re:Looks neat, but (Score:5, Insightful)
No-feedback keyboards have a place, but not for general use.
Re:Looks neat, but (Score:5, Insightful)
Just typing this, I must have hit the 'i' key 4 or 5 times incorrectly, but you'll notice no typos after I hit "Submit" because I can see what comes up on the screen in *realtime* rather than stare at the keys until I'm done and then search for the typo in the paragraph-stack (I'm a good speller always, but a bad punner on Monday mornings). Then again, this does explain the massive amount of errors in
Much love all the same!
Re:Looks neat, but (Score:3, Interesting)
With a projected keyboard, wouldn't one notice in the same fashion that his or her finger moved to the wrong position? And yes, it is a big learning curve, but this sounds like a device *for* people who are willing to overcome such a curve in order to put it to use.
In that case, the output device would be the only way to provid
Re:Looks neat, but (Score:3, Interesting)
If what you are typing is all off the top of your head, then look at it, but if you are typing up something off of a hardcopy then you are wasting your time if you can't type without watching the s
Re:Looks neat, but (Score:3, Funny)
Check out As-U-Type [asutype.com],
Geez... (Score:3, Funny)
I don't know about you, but I like feeling the keys putting up resistance
someone has control issues...!
:-)
Sounds interesting, but goofy. (Score:2, Insightful)
We've come full circle... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:We've come full circle... (Score:5, Funny)
Meet Jim, your average cubicle-dweller. But this is a very different type of cubicle... there's no computer! But wait! What's this? Jim seems to be powering up his pen collection! And his necktie is a printer!
Pocket Protector Commandoes GO! (Score:4, Funny)
I think he used the Revenge of the Nerd movies. Next up: the slide-rule server.
Just what we need (Score:5, Insightful)
No Thanks (Score:3, Funny)
Are you Corn Fed? [ebay.com]
Re:No Thanks (Score:4, Funny)
Besides, my post was just a play on words. Notice I used "shizm" and not "shizzle". And yes, there is no inherent meaning... it just sounded funny to me.
I wonder (Score:2, Funny)
Re:I wonder (Score:3, Funny)
If it gets to hot I wouldn't want that pen in my front pants pocket.
voice recognition (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:voice recognition (Score:3, Funny)
left right click click left left start run format c: enter yes enter noooooooo!!!!
Re:voice recognition (Score:5, Insightful)
True. Unfortunately, people have been trying to develop good speech recognition for years, and it is still a long way from being viable as the main input method.
voice recognition in 'hand', not 'pen' (Score:5, Informative)
His hand was a computer, and the fingers were computing elements. He needed to get all five fingers in order to make the computer whole and save Mankind from the aliens. He talked to his hand, and it answered.
Re:voice recognition in 'hand', not 'pen' (Score:3, Funny)
Re:voice recognition (Score:5, Insightful)
Take any action you do on a computer.
Now figure out a way to SPEAK that action, without any ambiguity. Now compare how long it takes to SAY that, with how long it takes to do via a keyboard or mouse.
Virtually every action take longer to explain than to simply DO. And the only way to have voice recognition come anywhere close is to have the computer try and guess what you mean. I don't know about anyone else, but I prefer it doing what I tell it to do, even if I occasionally make mistakes. The last thing I want is the computer misinterpreting something I said through no fault of my own.
As for simple text input, the biggest draw for voice recognition is for people who have bad or nonexistant typing skills. It is a valid issue, however it is one that as time passes becomes less and less important. Keyboard use has become ubiquitous among the young today, who will eventually push out the older people who never developed thier typing ability.
Also, can you imagine programming, or writing out abbreviations, or non-words with voice recognition?
int main left parenthesis int argc comma char asterisk asterisk argv right parenthesis left curly bracket printf left parenthesis doublequotes Hello World backslash n right parenthesis semi-colon right curly bracket
Re:voice recognition (Score:5, Funny)
I take it the syntax error is deliberate?
Re:voice recognition (Score:3, Funny)
Now figure out a way to SPEAK that action, without any ambiguity. Now compare how long it takes to SAY that, with how long it takes to do via a keyboard or mouse.
It may not replace it COMPLETELY but....
"Power on"
"Sort
"Power off"
I can see a big potential in hands-free computing, and frankly, this probably wraps up what, 60% of the market and 80% of
Re:voice recognition (Score:5, Insightful)
Frankly, speech recognition has some good uses for AUGMENTING input, but it's useless as a keyboard replacement for nearly every usage area.
Size (Score:3, Funny)
Open channel D! (Score:5, Funny)
hack (Score:3, Funny)
yea but (Score:2)
PdashISM?
The problem with that (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:The problem with that (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:The problem with that (Score:3, Insightful)
Both a virtual keyboard and a midikeyboard are shitty versions of what they're based on - they both have feedback mechanisms - which let you know which key you've pressed and how hard you've pressed it - which are simply not up to the job of serious typing or piano playing.
Re:The problem with that (Score:4, Informative)
A real piano has a feedback kick. You press the key, the key lever hits a hammer, the hammer hits the string, then BOUNCES. The bounce hits the hammer, which hits the lever, which hits your finger.
When I first played an electric piano, it sounded right, but something was missing. It was after a few months that I figured out I was missing the slight "kick" against my fingers when I hit a note.
The new high end electric keyboards have a built-in kickback. They feel MUCH better.
I also prefer real keyboards. There is a new virtual keyboard system I saw on TV a few days ago. A light displays a keyboard on any flat surface. A sensor watches where your fingers hit on that flat surface, then translate the location into the key. I would hate this as I like to have that feeling of something being depressed when I type.
pocket protector (Score:4, Funny)
New Sylvester Stallone movie (Score:2, Funny)
Jeff
What is the benefit of the CPU in a pen? (Score:5, Interesting)
Unless they're planning on making a 9 slot base, so I can have the 4 I/O pens, and 5 CPU pens, I don't see a real benefit. And I'm guessing I'd see more benefit out of having the storage be more expandable than the CPU power. [I could always replace the CPU item, but having the storage segregated makes more sense to me, so I have my work documents on one, personal stuff on another, music on a third, etc.]
Re:What is the benefit of the CPU in a pen? (Score:3, Interesting)
There is no "CPU pen" (Score:3, Informative)
Workplace theft (Score:4, Insightful)
This is a good idea why? (Score:2, Funny)
Call me a traditionalist... (Score:5, Interesting)
...or even a luddite, but: one creates a virtual keyboard?I happen to like the idea of having some sort of tactile feedback when I write. If I'm going to write so much on this sort of future PDA so much I need a keyboard to do it, I would much prefer either a keyboar like the Psion Series5 [idnes.cz] or a good system for transforming handwritting into input (hey, if they are going to add a camera anyway, why not put it to good use?)
Sorry NEC, but 'hammering' my fingers into the desk isn't high on my list of things to do... which isn't the same as to say that it is a stupid idea for everyone.
Re:Call me a traditionalist... (Score:2)
When speaking of good handwriting recognition, I think the fact that a camera is included should take back seat to the fact that say...
there are 5 pens included!
Chorded keyboard instead of projection? (Score:5, Informative)
(A chorded keyboard [handykey.com] is something you hold in one hand. You have to press a few keys at the same time (just like a piano chord) to get a character. With just a couple of keys you can apparently type pretty well. Perhaps you could fit this in an overlarge pen...)
Reinout
Already slashdotted.... (Score:3, Funny)
Plus ca change...
Re:Already slashdotted.... (Score:2)
Ironic if so...
NeoThermic
Be honest! (Score:3, Funny)
slashdotted (Score:2, Funny)
i have to say it.... (Score:2, Funny)
Projected keyboard (Score:5, Informative)
I've seen and used VKB technology. It's very compact and an elegant solution. Unlike Canesta, it doesn't need a stereoscopic view of the target area, which means it really could fit into a pen sitting in a charger or other holder.
Re:Projected keyboard (Score:3, Informative)
Remember (Score:4, Funny)
is mightier than the sword.
Re:Remember (Score:3, Funny)
But my pen is only running at 900MHz, my sword is OC's to almost 2Ghz
Good heat dissipation I guess!
Re:Remember (Score:4, Funny)
Ink? (Score:2)
New market for games envisaged (Score:2, Funny)
Ha! One-upped! (Score:4, Funny)
What? It comes in your pants!
Great! Just when geeks... (Score:5, Funny)
Wizardry (Score:4, Funny)
Ordinary people think that computing has to do with magic anyway. (must be those pesky "wizard interfaces")
Hmmm, sounds like an idea I had (Score:2)
Apart from the minor technical details involved in implementation, this would make the use of computers much more flexible. Not to mention fun, as we replace the computing brick in the bos
Even though they look cool... (Score:2)
What about Storage? (Score:3, Insightful)
Of course, there could be some sort of storage in the CPU pen, but not that much, surely.
Sour Grapes (Score:3, Interesting)
A pen-as-PC makes design sense, for utilitarian and human reasons. People can deal with a pen. We've used them for millenia.
They also could be cell phones as well, with voice, video, and internet capabilities. Wireless, of course.
I was seriously considering applying for a patent on the idea. Ya know, sometimes working for a living gets in the way of living. No time, no time.
Photonic circuitry can someday make them cool and powerful. Should be a pretty thing to see.
Ah, well. Run with the idea, guys! I want to have one.
I can just see the pocket protectors now. (Score:5, Funny)
I just hapPENed to wonder.... (Score:5, Funny)
Mitch Hedberg (Score:3, Funny)
"I bought an expensive pen the other day because I keep loseing pens and I was tired of not careing"
And if you assemble them sllightly differently... (Score:3, Funny)
Uh huh (Score:2)
Has anyone even looked at the "Realizability" ??? "Near Term" and "Slightly Farther Out Than the Phone and Camera" both equate to "Not in your lifetime, bozo!" in my book. Pretty much like diamond-based processors, solid state storage, quantum computing and DNF.
I don't want to burst anyone's bubble, but (Score:3, Funny)
Assuming it manages to start, I think this [wired.com] is going to become a lot more common! (Oops! Time for a meeting. Better pocket m' pens. OWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
It's a TRAP!!! (Score:2)
Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone,
Five for the Mortal Men doomed to die,
One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
One Pen to rule them all, One Pen to find them,
One Pen to bring them all and in the darkness bind them,
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie. "
(emphasis mine)
original info at NEC (Score:4, Informative)
http://www.nec-design.co.jp/showcase/
and a quote: "These are concept models and not planned to be commercialized at this point"
Conceptualization Stages (Score:4, Funny)
Dude: Lay it on me man.
Man: You know how superman has all those crystals that he can like, plug into stuff in the fortress? and it like . . . does stuff?
Dude: That is totally sweet.
Man: Oh yah, i know - but what if, like, EACH one of those crystals was also . . . A FULLY FUNCTIONAL PEN!!!!
Dude: . . . . You have just totally blown my mind man.
--- and if you don't like that, how about this ---
Infinium Labs: Behold the majesty of our new, always on, super-terrific awesome badass pen computer thingy!
Person: um . . . that's just a bunch of ball point pens shoved into a styrofoam block.
Infinium: LIES! don't you see the battery?
Person: It's just held on with scotch tape. you don't even have a wire running to it or anything.
Lawyer: You will cease and desist from disparaging Infinium Labs.
Person: whatever.
Darl: excuse me gentlemen, but . . . would that be running linux by any chance?
Not pocket protectors, think Japanese management (Score:2)
No, this isn't about pocket protector land. It's about fitting the retro needs of management. The projecti
Smaller Not Always Better (Score:3, Insightful)
Anyone else see anything wrong with this plan?
I have a better idea (Score:3, Insightful)
Alternate site for P-ISM information (Score:5, Informative)
http://www.nec-design.co.jp/showcase/ [nec-design.co.jp]
Hey Guys! (Score:3, Funny)
Is that a hard drive in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?
The possibilities for jocularity seem endless. Oh, and I'm really looking forward to a computer I can lose 1/5th of through a moment of innatention. "No, waiter, I REALLY need MY pen back. It's got all the third quarter earnings numbers on it!"
Re:first (Score:5, Funny)
=P
Anyway, at the rate people lose their pens, this is probably not too great...
Needless to say: NO, you CANNOT borrow my pen!