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Get Your 802.11 Media Fix From SeattleWireless TV 81

Michael Pierce writes "SeattleWireless TV brings you the latest information on Community, Corporate, and Home Wireless applications, hardware, security, and innovators in the field. July 2003 Show Summary: On this month's show, Peter and Michael report on the wireless project called 'SnowNet,' a project where Casey Halverson plans to use mountain tops to connect communities via a 802.11b backbone. We then check out the first link connected to SnowNet. TacomaNode,' located in Tacoma, Wa. It will connect to Seattle via a wireless backbone through SnowNet. Scott Kennedy, the owner of the Drinkmore Café, tells us why he has decided to provide free WiFi to his customers while other places charge. And finally we had a chance to try out a new Linux embedded product called the Prismiq MediaPlayer. Using this device, you no longer have to watch your media files on your small computer monitor. Using a wireless card, it can hook up to your network anywhere! You can view by choosing your player: Windows MediaPlayer or RealPlayer. If for some reason they don't stream there are some download links on the site. Also, if the stream links get messed up for any reason they are on the site, too." SnowNet is too cool to ignore.
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  • by TimCrider ( 215456 ) on Thursday July 31, 2003 @03:13PM (#6582752)
    This sounds like a cool idea until someone gets pissed at a TV show and decides to DDOS the TV Station.
  • by mao che minh ( 611166 ) * on Thursday July 31, 2003 @03:13PM (#6582758) Journal
    Sweet, imagine all of that unencrypted, insecure pr0n beaming through the Rockies.........
  • Snow Net? (Score:4, Funny)

    by ratfynk ( 456467 ) on Thursday July 31, 2003 @03:22PM (#6582815) Journal
    Good choice of name, maybe they have come up with a signal drop interface that just creates snow on your screen when you experience data stream dropout. Then you would actually think you are watching tv.
    • Nice idea -- it'd be cool if such an interface could help you point your antenna better, too! So when you have it in this mode, your picture would visibly get fuzzy when the bandwidth throttles back for instance. What'd be amazing, is if the antenna had multiple elements, and you could actually slide/pan the picture across the screen as you move the antenna ( = Crazy, huh?

      regards!
  • Wow! (Score:5, Funny)

    by Lane.exe ( 672783 ) on Thursday July 31, 2003 @03:26PM (#6582839) Homepage
    So who gets to be the first to make the Neal Stephenson joke when it crashes?

  • by adpowers ( 153922 ) on Thursday July 31, 2003 @03:28PM (#6582857)
    On a similar topic, if you are in the Seattle area on August 30th, you should check out the Wireless Field Day [seattlewireless.net]. We will be creating a number of links between various parks in the Seattle area. Plus, we hope to connect to SnowNet and use it to link with Tacoma. I will be demonstrating iChat AV [apple.com] over wireless so people will be able to see the advantages of having a public community wireless network. Be sure to come check us out!
  • Nice Advertisment! (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward
    On this month's show...

    Nice advertisement. Of course, I don't live in Seattle, so I can't watch the show. Which begs the question, why is this on Slashdot at all? I mean, other than the fact that we keep seeing suspicious "ad-like" stories on a daily basis...

    • As is clearly indicated on the site, you can download a windows media or realplayer version of the show. thw wmv file is 36.1 mb -- but it is viewable. I am in the Washington DC area, and I saw the show.
    • Believe me, SeattleWirless is cool, and not a corporate entity, so drop the Big Mac and stop being a hippycrite.

      Thanks!!
    • If you would RTFA you would know that this is a streaming broadcast and not an over the air broadcast or public access cable program. In so far as it being an advertisment, I suppose it is. It is an advertisement for a bunch of geeks setting up a free regional wireless computer network.
  • Just great (Score:1, Interesting)

    We already have all these butt-ugly cell-phone towers that enable SUV-driving morons to not pay attention to what they are doing. Now we're going to mess up the skyline with butt-ugly wireless towers that enable pasty-white geeks to get their porn faster instead of going out for a hike in those same goddamn mountains.
    • Don't hold back, tell us how you really feel.
    • Well thanks to this whole "wireless thing" we've got going recently, us pasty-white geeks have had to draw straws for who gets to climb the mountain to set up the tower. It's about 1 in 700 geeks that has to hike to some obscure area to set up the tower, and that's approximately .014 percent more than we had hiking in the past. So I think it has noticably increased the number of mountain hiking geeks. At least you can't say it's noticably DECREASED.
  • by Voltas ( 222666 ) on Thursday July 31, 2003 @03:34PM (#6582889) Homepage Journal
    Mountaineer WEP hacking!!

    First team to reach the summit and retrieve the WEP key wins.

    Finaly a geek gets on ESPN2!
    • Finaly a geek gets on ESPN2!
      I've seen Magic: The Gathering and the National Spelling Bee on ESPN. If those two aren't geeky, I don't know what is. Also, they are showing the World Series of Poker a lot lately - which I consider pretty hackerish. You have mathmatical calculations and lots of social engineering - what more could a geek want?
  • by southpolesammy ( 150094 ) on Thursday July 31, 2003 @03:36PM (#6582899) Journal
    "And our top news headline tonight, SnowNet, the ubiquitous free Wireless ISP found throughout the greater Seattle area, has been sued into oblivion by the RIAA after failing to be able to identify specific users on their network found to be file sharing...."
    • by hobbesmaster ( 592205 ) on Thursday July 31, 2003 @04:48PM (#6583388)
      Presuming that the network is DHCP, they could log MAC addresses. This could lead to amusement.

      RIAA: We want to know the name of the person using this IP address.
      Wireless providor: Well, we don't have any way to know exactly who had this IP address at the time, but we can give you a MAC address!
      RIAA: Ok, what is it?
      Wireless providor: 00-00-00-00-00-00
      RIAA: Thanks.
      • ifdown eth0
        ifconfig eth0 hw ethr 00:DE:AD:00:19:84
        ifup eth0

        My MAC is usually autogenerated using lines like above, it would never be the default factory setting, I think changing the MAC address wouldn't be a problem for these people. What might be a problem is RIAA lobbying to outlaw wireless or make criminals out of those who make these networks.
        • I'm a linux n00b, and unfotunately, won't have anything other than a dual boot wXP/SuSe box up at school this coming year. Is there an easy way to force my MAC address to something specific in windows? I've got a utility that makes it easy for me in Linux. Just figured I'd ask : )

          You can reply to me here or e-mail Josney@PcJonesConsulting doot com. (Flip the s and the n in the part before the @)

  • I hate to say it but you could build a hacked X-box for that price (249.95). Granted it's not going to be wireless but you get a game system and a dvd player.

    And of course most importantly it would run linux...

    McK
  • I've really been thinking of getting one of these, but so far the reviews have been less than stellar. Not that that the product is bad, but few of them really tell anything more than what I can read on the product homepage. Does it work well? Is it hard to use? Does it have a hard time with video formats or is the decode pretty rebust? How good is the Divx support? I've really wanted a cheap player that can access my library of videos, but I hear the comments that the windows software has short-commings. Any comments would be appreciated.

    Thanks,
    • Not that that the product is bad, but few of them really tell anything more than what I can read on the product homepage.

      Check out the user forums at www.prismiq.ORG [prismiq.org] (and click on "forums" on the left side.) There are a lot of PRISMIQ users active on the forums, and you are bound to see a lot of opinions. And you can always post your own questions and have a good chance someone will answer.

      For the brave experimentors, there is also some information on controlling the PRISMIQ player from another host an
  • tacomaNODE (Score:3, Funny)

    by schwartzon ( 552831 ) on Thursday July 31, 2003 @04:04PM (#6583038) Homepage
    I dont know about you guys, but that sounds an awfully lot like the TACOMA DOME.
    Sunday, Sunday, SUNDAY....free wifi access, first come first serve, SEE the mighty 54G crush all oncomers. Watch 802.11b, that scrappy kid, still hold up against the onslaught of oncomers. Witness the fall of the mighty BLUEtooth. Special appearance by Airport...EXTREME! this sunday, at the TACOMA DOME...i mean NODE!
  • If you dont enjoy the program, no problem ;) I figured you guys would like it. We just like to inform. Setting up a community network is hardwork! take care, Michael
  • Seattle Wireless actually talked about this earlier this week on the NPR affil in Seattle, KUOW-FM, during the Weekday program. It's pretty interesting stuff ... if it all works out. The KUOW.org site has an audio stream of the hour-long show. [kuow.org] One challenge is convincing the masses, who already are just starting to understand what Wi-Fi is, that Wi-Fi ISN'T just wireless Internet ... that's it creates a wireless network that can move damn near anything digital without ever touching the Internet(voice, vide
  • So how many people are going to share these wireless links? 10Mb/s is hardly what I'd call a backbone. Sure it may be a fun exercise, but why the obsession with a wireless backbone when fiber has so much more bandwidth? I understand that wireless is the best solution in some cases, but this doesn't seem like one of them. Wireless seems to make a lot more sense as a last mile solution.
  • I hope they don't try to run any of this under Part 97 (ham) rules. There would be some major issues then.

    -Joe W7COM
  • After listening to countless geeks try to explain to me why "open source" software is better, and why a neighborhood "free wi-fi cafe" is better than a Starbucks, the guy in this video from the Drinkmore Cafe finally explained it in a way that makes sense to a die-hard capitalist like myself.
    A major reason for making (or saving) money is presumably that you can use that money to increase your hapiness. That hapiness could be in the form of security, or entertainment, or improved health. The Drinkmore

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