"Augmented Reality" For the Assembly Line 183
silkySlim writes "EETimes has a short article about a combination data goggles and earpiece device to replace big manuals and reduce training time for assembly line workers. 'In one possible scenario, a technician with data goggles bends over the engine block of a luxury car and removes the covering. He is receiving instructions through an ear piece telling him what to do next while his data goggles mark the screws and bolts on which he must next place his tool.' Apparently, it's already in use by several automotive companies. There's some additional papers also available."
Remindes me of the Matrix (Score:5, Funny)
When things go wrong.... (Score:4, Funny)
Re:When things go wrong.... (Score:1)
Re:When things go wrong.... (Score:1)
The episode (Score:1)
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Reason: Don't use so many caps. It's like YELLING.
Typical /. reader thought. (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Typical /. reader thought. (Score:5, Funny)
Assuming that the module was done by computer programmers, I'm not so sure I'd want to follow the directions.
ObFuturama quote (Re:Typical /. reader thought.) (Score:2, Funny)
Re:ObFuturama quote (Re:Typical /. reader thought. (Score:2)
Re:Typical /. reader thought. (Score:2)
touch ; finger ; mount ; gasp ; yes ; umount ; sleep
Re:Typical /. reader thought. (Score:1, Troll)
when it's my girlfriend I find in my bed I usually
either:
A) Fuck her
B) Demand her give me the damn remote immediately
so I can turn springer or whatever reality based
shit she's watching off, then fuck her.
Re:Typical /. reader thought. (Score:2)
point it out to me
Technical writing (Score:5, Insightful)
I would be interested to see what in the way of technical writing and documentation goes into this sort of thing. It would force many technical writers to also focus on interface much more than they do now with standard Robohelp systems or other standard documentation.
Re:Technical writing (Score:2)
augmenting reality (Score:1, Funny)
Cheers
How long (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:How long (Score:3, Interesting)
Excellent (Score:3, Funny)
Audio more efficient than text. (Score:2, Interesting)
ATT's "NaturalVoices" technology (utilized by TextAloudMP3) is just exponentially better than the old Stephen Hawking voice, adds tone, inflection, etc., using grammatical clues, and makes even listening to Project Gutenberg's E-Texts of Charles Dickens Novels enjoyable.
The big productivity boost in this technology is that after a little bit
Re:Audio more efficient than text. (Score:1, Informative)
1. You are trying to sound Insightful but have deliberately made meaningless statements. Such as saying that you now listen to many websites and books, and you are not hearing impaired. That makes no sense, only a visually-impaired person would be the typical user of speech accessibility functions.
2. Voice is absolutely in no possible way 20 times faster than reading. Unless you have to sound out each word in your mind as you read, many people can read
Finally... (Score:4, Interesting)
It's nice that it's finally coming down the pipeline 10 years later. Makes me wish I was still on the inside instead of looking at all this stuff as an outsider.
Still Use people! (Score:2, Interesting)
How barbaric.
Psychological long-term ramifications (Score:5, Insightful)
Contrast this with a labourer who builds furniture from scratch or a shoemaker and you find yourself in a different situation. While their actions are the same, their efforts have tangible results. If they have their own business selling what they've created the satisfaction runs deeper.
How are goggles shining lights in your face saying "Unscrew this next" going to make you feel any closer to the work that you're doing? It just seems like another level of detachment to me.
Why did the article discuss hardware problems but not social problems regarding the goggles?
Mind you, from a Slashdot geek perspective, the goggles are a cool idea, but I don't feel envious of the people who are going to have to use these things on an assembly line.
Re:Psychological long-term ramifications (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Psychological long-term ramifications (Score:4, Funny)
Peharps you've never noticed the term Human Resources?
dollar70 does have a point though. somthing like this means that you can gather an even lower level of unskilled labor, expanding the resource pool.
and on a creepier (funnier?) thought, suppose you could recieve updated instructions from your manager/ supervisor on the fly. Does anyone else have an image of somone sitting at their computer, clicking on a real-time layout of their production floor, selection someone wearing this gear, and moving them to another project? If that happens, would we have to say funny things if the click on us repeatedly?
Re:Psychological long-term ramifications (Score:2)
"Stop touching me!"
"I...I...would burn down the building...."
"MooooooOOOOOOOOOooooo"
Re:Psychological long-term ramifications (Score:2, Insightful)
Come back to me with some tripe about how your stuck where you are, and I'll give you a couple stories from my immigrant friends.
Re:Psychological long-term ramifications (Score:2, Interesting)
Fine, I won't bore you with "some tripe" as you so eloquently trolled, but I didn't originally intend on growing up to work in a factory. Truth is, I took the job because it was what was available five years ago when I desperately needed to pay the bills. Since then I worked my way up high enough within the company to make more money than I could currently earn as an entry level
Re:Psychological long-term ramifications (Score:3, Insightful)
Not an intentional troll, I'm just sick and tired of the "I can't do it" attitude that's been forming. So many people sit on their butts and complain about how they're stuck where they are, and then there's the people who work incredibly hard and take night classes to get the right knowledge(sp?).
And one day you'll appreciate me just as much when you come looking for a place on my goggle-run assembly line because your immigrant frien
Re:Psychological long-term ramifications (Score:2)
You can quote rags-to-riches stories all you like. It won't change that only so many will succeed and the rest fail. This is not simply due to the skills or efforts of those that don't succeed but circumstance and environment.
The fact remains that if we want mass-produced devices (cars, etc.) someone will have to work those jobs (until complete automation). And if we want those toys what's wrong with making the jobs that make them livable?
And if you haven't noticed, there are attempts at de-skill
Re:Psychological long-term ramifications (Score:2)
Re:Psychological long-term ramifications (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Psychological long-term ramifications (Score:3, Insightful)
Taken strictly as a training tool, I lik
Re:Psychological long-term ramifications (Score:2)
Not necessarily. The article mentioned wiring harnesses with thousands of cables that need to be routed. I don't care how long you've been doing it, you probably aren't going to learn how to do it, there's just too many things to remember. There are so many wires that even with color-coding you can't tell them all apart, much less where they all go.
His tool (Score:1)
Dupe story... (Score:1)
no thanks. (Score:5, Insightful)
Human beings are not efficent organisms, neither in chemistry or psychology. You can't expect a human to act like a machine, something has got to give.
Re:no thanks. (Score:5, Funny)
Ah, so augmented reality is like my mother-in-law riding in the back of my car? Yeah, that IS scary.
Re:no thanks. (Score:2)
Re:no thanks. (Score:2)
See it works on many levels.
Not suitable for prolonged use (Score:5, Informative)
I tried one of the AR displays a few months back. The main reason why I thought that particular model was unsuitable for prolonged use, was that the text and other information appeared at a different depth from the object I was observing. The AR information was displayed at a fixed "infinite" depth.This made it impossible to focus on both the text and object at the same time, requiring me to adjust my eye focus everytime I wanted to read something. This constant refocussing caused a good amount of discomfort.
Adjusting the depth of the text to make sure it is exactly superimposed on the object that is being viewed is quite challenging, especially when the viewer moves his line of sight frequently.
An alternate design that some people find easier to adjust to uses a display mounted on a single eye (with the RW showing up in a dimmed background). I haven't tried these, but supposedly they are easier to get used to.
take a queue from cameras... (Score:5, Informative)
The other method is active focus which bounces an infrared beam off the object and measures the distance.
Neither is perfect, but in a controlled manufacturing setting it would be easy to create 'focus points' on objects which would allow the system to focus the right distance. Heck, with that you could probably build the system to focus specifically on the correct part, further eliminating confusion.
Re:take a queue from cameras... (Score:2)
Re:take a queue from cameras... (Score:2)
However for technical reasons it's much easier to put the text all at one focal distance.
To solve this could involve increasing complexity and cost of the devices in order to simultaneously display graphics/text at different focal distances, or to only show text/graphics for objects at the focal distance you are looking at (phase in/out effect), plus some
Re:Not suitable for prolonged use (Score:2)
Couldn't they just overlay the text on a video feed from two small cameras mounted directly in front of the eyes and display the video mix to the user? Then depth becomes no problem because you're always focused on the screen, text and image will match.
Of course, then system bulk, focus, resolu
I need one for women. (Score:3, Funny)
I look at a crowd of women and it gives me stats and percentage success rate with different "targets".
I then talk to her and up pops up witty and appropate comments.
I then start making out with her and then I get a Blue Screen of Death/Seg Fault.
"Excuse babe, I need to Google something."
Re:I need one for women. (Score:1)
Leave it to technology to solve what simple hominid social skillz can't.
Re:I need one for women. (Score:2)
Hehe (Score:2)
Resistance is feutile.
Have a nice day.
Re:Hehe (Score:2, Funny)
Resistance is feutile.
Spell checkking is futile.
Preppare to surrender your dictonaries.
Re:Hehe (Score:2)
It's my ascii accent. Yes. That's it.
Nothing to see here! Move along!
My Amazing Psychic Powers Foresee Many Problems (Score:5, Informative)
1. Safety and Liability. I can just imagine a bug telling the new assembly line "cyber drone" to drill a hole 1 foot to the left when it meant one inch (shades of Nigel Tuefnel!), and the resulting explosion when he drills into the fuel tank. That, and the possibility of anyone who screws up telling his supervisor "Hey, that's what the Magic Smart Goggles told me to do!"
2. Cost. Technical writers are comparatively cheap [and easy to lay off, he noted bitterly]. Programmers are expensive. If the new Mark 2 Framistan has holes in a different places, that's five minutes of work tops to put the new information in existing manuals, but a day to write the code, debug it, and test the magic googles to make sure they're acurately pointing out the new framistan holes rather than the old ones.
3. Limited Applicability to Modern Manufacturing. A good portion of the most repetative assembly line jobs have already moved overseas. Many of the mechanical assembly jobs left don't require one worker doing the same thing 100 times, but doing 100 different things on a far more complex tool (i.e., the difference between assembling a toaster and assembling, say, an Ion Implanter). Optimizing "Enhanced Reality" for one task performed 100 times a day may be cost effective, but not for programming and training the system for hundreds of tasks.
4. The Awesome Power of Human Stupidity. Everytime they make something idiot proof, nature has shown the amzing ability to come up with a better idiot.
Re:My Amazing Psychic Powers Foresee Many Problems (Score:2)
As far as I know, cars aren't usually assembled with fuel in the gas tank. Even if they were, gasoline does not explode in liquid form, it merely burns--you would have to aerosolize it first in order to get an explosion.
So what? Can't the overseas people doing those repetetive tasks still use this technology?
People as peripherals (Score:5, Interesting)
Years ago, before multi-layer PC boards worked well, there was something called "semi-automated wire wrap". Production wire wrap involves wiring up big circuit boards with thousands of wires. Fully automated wire wrap machines were huge and expensive, and manual wire wrap tended to have too many errors. So "semi-automated wire wrap" was developed. Lights indicated the row and column where the wire was to be attached. The position of the hand-held wire wrap gun was monitored through a mechanical linkage, and if it was in the wrong place, pulling the trigger did nothing. Thus, when a wire was attached, it had to be in the right place.
The equipment for this was far simpler than the fully automated machine, so, using low-wage workers, it became a common way of building boards. It totally de-skills the job. In an hour, anyone can learn it.
Re:People as peripherals (Score:2)
Thank you for your time Union Member.
Dr.?? did your computer crash? (Score:5, Funny)
It makes me wonder, when this technology is going to enter the field of medicine? I don't think I am ready for a physician with a Dell box strapped to his head..
Re:Dr.?? did your computer crash? (Score:3, Interesting)
Personally, as long as the doctor doesn't use it as a crutch or replacement for knowledge, I would be fine with it. I can imagine having a readout of your blood pressure, heart rate, and other monitored bodily functions all right there, without needing to look away or call out for a reading.
Working on a machine and working on a human body are
DANGER WILL ROBINSON! DANGER!! (Score:2, Insightful)
Remember, for problems, textbooks usually have fairly lengthy descriptions of types of failures and things to look for, with some representa
Vernor Vinge should be proud! (Score:2)
Augmented Reality? (Score:2)
beyond factories (Score:2, Informative)
The comments so far have been asking whether or not assembly workers actually need the AR. I would say many don't, however, as manufacturing becomes more and more automated, the actual jobs of the workers/repairmen on the line will probably increase in complexity leading to an excellent use of AR.
EETimes doesn't even mention the possiblity
How about this? (Score:2)
Disclosure (Score:1)
In Disclosure, they were testing out these goggles that do the same thing, but on airplanes.
I'm not sure when that book was published, but I would guess prior to or during '95 because I don't think I read his stuff while I was in college and was too busy. I certainly haven't read anything of his since college.
I guess then it was vaporware, and now it is for real.
Re:Disclosure (Score:1)
These were actually used in Airframe, which came out a little later. Right author though.
I Hate Wizards (Score:1)
(OK, I'll go RTFA now.)
Re:I Hate Wizards (Score:1)
I don't have anything particularly against trolls, as long as my sword has the sheath of enlightenment maxed out after enough potions and one ups.
I suppose I don't really know anything about that sort of thing, but I was trying to think of what the people that I saw in college sword fighting in the quad while wearing Elizabethan garb migh
"Augmented reality" has been around for.... (Score:2, Informative)
There are real health problems acossiated with this technology : A CAVE (yeah, a room filled with VERY big screens, often used by oil and automobile companies to display 3D graphics) will disturb your visual balance/depth, enough to impair your driving. In Norway you have restrictions on your driving after too much time inside a CAVE.
A day in front of a lousy monitor gives you less of a headache than a day of using even expensive, high-quality googles.
Technology
If the person who build cars needs this... (Score:1)
Re:If the person who build cars needs this... (Score:3, Interesting)
With a declining percentage of older open-architecture cars in the natio
non productive (Score:2)
This gives me the impression that prodution can actually slow down when workers use this. Think about it for a second. Workers on a production line become familiarized with undertaking tasks in a fashion that's helpful to themselves, they often get accustomed to doing things they way they want to which is sometimes faster than going through steps 1 - 5. By having to be told how to do things they have to stop and listen for one (which takes up time slows down production), and they have to deal with the imper
Re:non productive (Score:2)
dupe? (Score:1)
People Robots (Score:2, Insightful)
Faster, Better, Cheaper (Score:2, Insightful)
I could see where statistics, maintained by the system, would organize down to the very last microcent which employee was more productive than another. Given training will be no longer required, the employee can be ranked as easily as a solenoid valve, and replaced just as easily.
This is great news for the businessman, who will undoubtedly lobby ( and
Re:People Robots (Score:2, Insightful)
I think you're being a bit optimistic.
I've been around Union plants most of my life. From managements point of view, it's probably better to have the wheel fall of a car because it was screwed in wrong than put up with a strike for firing the guy who did it.
Re:People Robots (Score:2)
Uhhh....you're not supposed to have any of those things if your assembling an engine. The skill creativitiy and inititive comes from the engineers and designers, not the factory worker. I'd really hate it if my car blew up because John C. Doe decided to be 'creative' with my timing belt (I'm not sure if that can blow a car up, but that's about the extent of my car lingo).
I can see a day when people will be fired for putting in four
Re:People Robots (Score:2)
Umm... They fasten fine if you 'rotate' them with a hammer.
Re:People Robots (Score:2)
Workers will still be able to fasten the bolts however they want to, overhand grip, underhand grip whatever, as long as the correct bolt
Sounds a lot like... (Score:2)
Been there, done that... (Score:2, Interesting)
The microphone provided input for possibly the best voice input setup I've ever seen to date, in that it actually recognized a user saying things like, "yeah, uh-huh" and similar grunt/groan acknowledgements. The goggles were l
Mixed Reality for Entertainment - at SIGGRAPH (Score:2)
Prepping our booth now for SIGGRAPH in San Diego later this month. We will be presenting a pair of two player mixed reality games on the show floor. We're using Canon video see through HMD's to put the player in a Sci-Fi Time Portal shoot 'em up game as well as a mixed reality aquarium game where you play ball with dolphins.
The idea is to get away from the "text in space" phenomenon that is present with most augmented or mixed reality systems to try and blend the real and the vi
A clever hack (Score:3, Funny)
The real application for these... (Score:5, Insightful)
Picture an automotive assembly line that has 300 assembly stations, each one of which gets the "next part" supplied by a chain driven conveyer bringing it to the station on a hook.
Jane, who takes care of placing and tightening down the intake manifold on the engine block in front of her, no longer has to either think about what torque to use, what bolt pattern, or really, anything. Follow the instructions, tighten the bolts per the visual overlay pattern at the designated torque, and on to the next block coming down the line and intake manifold coming off the parts conveyer belt.
The ultimate end of this is much like the Microsoft commercial where the guy in the showroom is picking whether he wants a black car or a red car, and the manufacturing plant is responding almost instantly. Now extend this to not beginning the production on a car until an order is placed, and it'll be ready that day for delivery to the customer's city.
And yes, this reduces Jane to a non-thinking bio-machine for the assembly line. That's the really awful part of this process.
Cast in the Name of Efficiency, Ye Not Cognizant.
Big Ugh.
Re:The real application for these... (Score:3, Insightful)
Don't forget the robot arm (Score:2)
Aircraft manufacturers have done this for years (Score:3, Interesting)
Boeing in St. Louis (military fighter division) uses goggle technology for several manufacturing processes. One example is when making wiring harnesses for aircraft. The wiring harnesses are very complex and can span over 100 feet. They used to have specific pattern boards for every different harness with pegs to support the wires and drawings to follow right on the boards. Now, they use a generic board with a grid of supports and they put a pair of goggles on that superimposes the wiring diagram on the board so that they can manufacture the harness of the day.
I believe they have also applied this technology to the maintenance task to the degree that someone at a remote site can put on a pair of the goggles and be guided by visual highlighting superimposed over the aircraft parts to a task. They may also access schematics that do not superimpose and listen to guidance through the same networked device as they perform their task.
Re:Aircraft manufacturers have done this for years (Score:2)
The Goggles (Score:2, Informative)
Micro Optical Corporation [microopticalcorp.com]
These use the heads-up overlay display technology.
Personal experience (Score:5, Interesting)
When a new model comes they start by producing only one a day. The cars that result from the first months of production are so bad that they have to be repaired by experts in a special hall, sometimes taking several days for each car.
The first hundred or so cars are only used for presentations, road tests and crash tests anyway, so it's no big deal if they don't look perfect.
Unfortunately, by the time the car goes into full production most of the workers still don't know what they are doing, and it takes a few hundred defect cars in a row before anyone decide to do anything about the problem.
I guess a system like this would be ideal for the starting phase of production, to train up the workers. The only problem is that whoever sets up the system in the beginning would have to know how to build the car in the optimal way (including all variations). Usually nobody has this knowledge until after the fact.
Re:Personal experience (Score:2)
Why not mechanize assembly too? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Why not mechanize assembly too? (Score:2)
The computer may be providing cues to the operator, but the operator would still need to be a competent mechanic. This just gives him the ability to be a subject matter expert in real time. Think of it as yourself learning a new piece of network hardware or software app wi
Michael Crichton kinda predicted this (Score:2)
That said, I still prefer printed manuals to the PDF files that come with most software from a store, so who knows how usable a virtual manual would be.
System Shock? (Score:2)
The second thing that came to my mind was "hey, that's pretty cool".
The third thing that came to my mind was "how useful is that for assembly lines, though?".
I guess if they can make them cheap enough it would be worth it, but I have to wonder if going full-robotics wouldn't make more sense in that case.
What I would find this very useful, and very cool, for, is the kind of task that requires highly specialized expertise that is rel
This article has highlighted a geek problem... (Score:2)
Wake up people, there's more to life than the web...
*grin*
Screw assembly lines.... (Score:2)
first comes the abuse, then the use (Score:2)
Boeing is looking at this too... (Score:2)
I think someone even had an idea that the system would be smart enough to where an inspector could look at, say, part of a turbofan engine and, if said engine was missing a fix mandated by a maintenance bulletin, would notice
Virtual Motel (Score:1)