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Sony Vaio GT3/K: You Spilled Your Laptop on my Camcorder 219

Posted by CmdrTaco from the you-spilled-camcorder-on-my-laptop dept.
Anonymous Howard writes "This article talks about Sony's new, limited production Vaio GT3/K. It's a mixture of laptop and full fledged camcorder that uses the Transmeta 600mhz Crusuoe chip. Weighing in at 2.4 lbs, this hybrid has an amazing battery life of up to 17 hours, 30 GB drive, ATI Rage Mobility-M1 and 128 MB of RAM, and a swiveling screen. This is definately a very unique device, one that completely blows away Sony's previous attempts of the laptop/video combination machines, mainly due the fact that the video camera is not a wimpy little video lense, but an actual full fledged digital camcorder."
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  • For similar items... (Score:5, Funny)

    by mr.henry ( 618818 ) * on Wednesday April 30, 2003 @09:56PM (#5850078) Journal
    This looks like something this place [dynamism.com] would sell. They have all sorts of cool import notebooks and gadgets. The stuff might seem expensive, but just remember all these electronics are going to help you get laid.

  • Add a little ... (Score:2, Interesting)

    by denisbergeron ( 197036 )
    DVD Burner and it will be great !

  • Hibread? (Score:5, Funny)

    by bc90021 ( 43730 ) <bc90021&bc90021,net> on Wednesday April 30, 2003 @10:01PM (#5850108) Homepage
    Is that what you'd get from a stoner Subway employee?

    Yeah, we, uh, have this new kinda bread for our sandwiches... it's, uh, got a "special ingredient". We call it "hibread". ;)
    • Not just high in fibre?
  • It's called a wire

    You plug it into shit

    This is the technology that allows the internet to be on seperate computers (as opposed to one big one).

    • Re:Note to Sony Re: combination laptop camera (Score:4, Insightful)

      by evilviper ( 135110 ) on Wednesday April 30, 2003 @10:43PM (#5850327) Journal
      The good thing about computers, is the general purpose nature of them allows you to add perhiperals at a fraction of the cost of standalone devices. I can spend $25 on a CD-R drive for a computer, or pay several hundred for a standalone CD-R device.

      This camera has some distince advantages because it is not standalone. However, it seems like they could have done this in a much better way. Just have the guts of a camcorder (that doesn't work on it's own), and have it hook-up to a notebook with a PCMCIA adapter... I don't think Firewire is quite fast enough, but maybe that would be an option, too.

      • Firewire is used for this, kinda (Score:4, Informative)

        by Heisenbug ( 122836 ) on Thursday May 01, 2003 @08:42AM (#5851980)
        Firewire might be fast enough ... it depends where the compression happens. This thing presumably shoots MiniDV-type video, which is 4/1 compressed *before* it goes into the computer, and Firewire should be fine. This kind of thing is even done by some pros using the old "two devices connected by a wire" trick. They shoot on DVCAM or whatever (a 25 MB/s stream, unless I've confused my terms) and stream it over Firewire to be recorded on disc in real time. The advantage here is that the whole 'log and capture' phase of video editing is skipped entirely, and with a dedicated editor they can have an assembly cut ready to watch by the time you're done shooting.

        Of course, in that case, it's a $15,000 dollar DVCAM connected to a G4 laptop, not a consumer cam built into a consumer computer. You know that embarrassing geek thing where you describe computer technology as unbearably sexy? I hate that.
    • You plug it into shit

      I wourd recommend keeping some moist towelettes [slashdot.org] handy, to wipe the shit OFF the wires when you're done.

  • Um, why? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by I Am The Owl ( 531076 ) on Wednesday April 30, 2003 @10:03PM (#5850124) Homepage Journal
    So, instead of a decent laptop and a decent camera, I can get a combination that does both poorly and probably costs only slightly less. Wow, what a gain.

    Thanks, but I'll stick with Firewire and my Canon GL2

    • if you're going to do video, do it right: (http://pro.jvc.com/prof/Attributes/features.jsp?t ree=&searchModel=&model_id=MDL101394) and, the're only getting smaller! It will be interesting to see where video cameras, telephones, and computers intersect ten years from now.
      • That thing records so-called "High Definition" in MPEG2 format. Have you ever tried to color correct source footage that's been compressed? It ain't pretty, that's for sure. And forget about keying.
      • They keep making digital cameras and camcorders smaller, but there's one thing you need big: the lens. God damn it, I need to take pictures of the neon lights in Shinjuku without using a flash.

        Last time I used a miniature camera there it only had a small lens, so I had to use the flash to take pix at 1/30s. Camera -> Flash -> into oncoming traffic -> Swerve -> BIG PILE UP.

        I'm not doing that again, so give me BIG LENSES!

        graspee

    • and complately something that is only a gee-wiz product.

      the digital stills out of these things suck (Yes i have one of those tiny VAIO's linux runs on them quite nice WITH support for that camera) and ends up never getting used. the video is worse out of them.

      You are not going to get low-end DV quality out of them and nowhere near the still quality of a 2.1 megapixel digital with good glass lenses.. (Yes, kiddies my 2.1 megapixel camera blows away the 3,4 and 5 megapixel cameras... all because of the sill
      • This is intended to be VERY different from those pinhole-camera POS units. This one is as good as any MiniDV camcorder in the $600-800ish range. (Once you go to $1000+ you can get progressive scan and extra pixels...)

  • Sony very please? (Score:5, Funny)

    by canning ( 228134 ) on Wednesday April 30, 2003 @10:05PM (#5850140) Homepage
    Either way, Sony is very please with the outcome.

    Not half as please with the editing job me bet.
    • Sony Vaio GT3/K: You Spilled Your Laptop on my Camcorder

      Posted by CmdrTaco on Wednesday April 30, @10:55PM from the you-spilled-camcorder-on-my-laptop dept.

      Must have been way too busy racking thier brain trying to think of a witty department...
  • I'd imagine super-niche products like this are tres bling bling. Anyone know?

  • New? (Score:5, Informative)

    by juuri ( 7678 ) on Wednesday April 30, 2003 @10:06PM (#5850155) Homepage
    This thing has been out for over a year and this form factor has been out since 2001.

  • Looks amazing but is 30gig enough? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by 1nsane0ne ( 607735 ) on Wednesday April 30, 2003 @10:06PM (#5850156) Journal
    I have never done any kind of video recording, editing, etc. beyond your basic camcorder usage. So I have to ask, is 30 gig's of hard drive space enough for raw video to be recorded? I know after compression and stuff you can fit two hour videos into under a gig w/ quite a bit of quality loss. But for serious video recording editing I'm guessing 2 hours of video would be quite a bit larger then 1 gig. And it doesn't mention anything about on the fly compression (i dont know if that's even possibe / practical w/ today's cpu's and the software this thing has), so I'm guessing whatever format you record to is going to be huge. If anyone with any experience would care to comment on the size of uncompressed video files it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

    • Re:Looks amazing but is 30gig enough? (Score:5, Interesting)

      by ottffssent ( 18387 ) on Wednesday April 30, 2003 @10:19PM (#5850219)
      Uncompressed? No. The article claims 680,000 element CCD. Assuming 24-bit color, that's 3 bytes * 30fps * 680,000 elements = 58MB/sec = 3.5GB/min.

      Compression is possible though. I don't know if there's any built-in compression, but a Crusoe/600 isn't going to provide much. With my AIW Radeon (original), I could just barely encode to MPEG2 with a Duron/600. With a 1.8GHz Athlon XP I can record straight to divx (from TV, 640x480) at about 1GB/hr, 60-80% CPU usage.

      30G probably is a good match for the battery life of the unit, using whatever compression Sony built in. They, as a company, have better sense than to make something horribly mismatched like that. Chewing-gum memory slot excepted, of course.

      • Re:Looks amazing but is 30gig enough? (Score:5, Informative)

        by FredThompson ( 183335 ) <fredthompson&mindspring,com> on Wednesday April 30, 2003 @10:39PM (#5850315)
        There is no reference, whatsoever, that says anything about uncompressed video.

        DV is about 13G/hour and the compression is through hardware. The unit probably uses that format and has a software codec.

        The article doesn't say if this unit has a tape mechanism and the picture doesn't look like there is one. If it's only using the HD, no, 30G is not enough. You could work on 1 hour at most.

        This is just a geek toy to try to impress the other geek in the next cubicle. It's not beefy enough or powerful enough to do any real work. It's also too awkward to use as a camcorder. Might be fine for shooting a few seconds at a time or recording part of a meeting but that's about it.
    • I know after compression and stuff you can fit two hour videos into under a gig w/ quite a bit of quality loss.

      no that is with a TON of quality loss.

      when I capture and edit from my XL1 camera a 15 minute long project has about 1 hour of footage. this takes up 10 GIG on my media raid drive.

      when I slam it down to a 8000kbps bit rate Mpeg2 for dvd authoring it ends up being slightly less than 1 gig in size.

      the compression rates you are talking about are for really REALLY low end and low quality.

      • Yup. (Score:2)

        by Andy Dodd ( 701 )
        One should consider 10 GB/hourish the minimum for source footage. DV video is 13 GB/hour, and is (I believe) a variant of MJPEG.
      • when I capture and edit from my XL1 camera a 15 minute long project has about 1 hour of footage. this takes up 10 GIG on my media raid drive.

        Isn't that the great part about filming. We spent 4 hours one night and got about 3 minutes worth of usable footage.

        For a consumer product, this thing is good. They don't need high-quality images. Solid-state digital cameras with MPEG or QuickTime encoding also do the job, just 15 seconds at a time. The price is what is going to keep this out of the American mar

  • I have one (Score:5, Informative)

    by Tuqui ( 96668 ) on Wednesday April 30, 2003 @10:08PM (#5850163) Homepage
    This type of model is in the market in Japan for more than 2 years.
    I use one of these but is more a Camera Toy than a real laptop the keyboard is almost unusable. The battery life is not so good. and the screen is very tiny. But the movies it takes are clear and you can use the optical zoom.

  • Why does SONY love Windows ME so much? (Score:5, Funny)

    by toupsie ( 88295 ) on Wednesday April 30, 2003 @10:08PM (#5850165) Homepage
    I have noticed that SONY uses Windows ME on a lot of their unique notebooks. The PictureBook uses it as well -- they are almost impossible to upgrade to Win 2k. I never understood SONY's passion for the quirkiest Windows release with its notebook.

    Anyone know why?

    • Re:Why does SONY love Windows ME so much? (Score:5, Informative)

      by Transient0 ( 175617 ) on Wednesday April 30, 2003 @10:32PM (#5850285) Homepage
      Actually, the OS is the last thing I'd bitch about with this product.

      If you notice on the web-site, buying the OS is an OPTION. The mere fact that you can choose not to buy windows when you buy this machine puts it head and shoulders above almost every other PC-type product out there in terms of the OS.

      I mean really, if you want to buy this device and don't like ME, just don't pay for it.
    • Well this one is a little different, it ships with win2k and has winME as an option

      have a look at:
      http://www.dynamism.com/gt3/specs.shtml

      they will even put xp on it if you really want them to. And personally I would as the latest Avid DVxpress only runs on XP, and its posibly the best consumer level package behind final cut pro
    • What I wonder about, is their support of Windows. If you look at anything they offer, they usually only have support for Windows... USB MiniDisc recoders come to mind.

      They are not a software company, so I don't see why they don't release some specs on their devices, but they don't.
    • toupsie: "I never understood SONY's passion for the quirkiest Windows release with its notebook."

      I"m sure what you meant to say was "I never understood Sony's passion for the SHITTIEST Windows release with its notebook." I like all other slashdotters and non-slashdotten can all agree that Win ME is easily the worst Windows produced since 1.0
  • You've got camcorder in my notebook! You've got notebook in my camcorder" Sony Vaio GT3/K! remember that old cereal comercial? I think it was reeces peanut butter cereal or some god awfull stuff like that?
    • Two kids (one of which was from the TV series, The Partridge Family) collide on a street corner... one is eating a chocolate bar, the other peanut butter straight from the jar (!)...

      "You got peanut butter on my chocolate!"
      "You got chocolate in my peanut butter"
      HMMM!
      *cue music and announcer*

      Reese's Peanutbutter Cups

      The commerican ran for ages.
  • Finally, I can eat my electronics when I'm done with them! Even better than regular bread. Why can't we make more things out of this new, amazing "hibread"?

  • swiveling screen (Score:4, Funny)

    by stinky wizzleteats ( 552063 ) on Wednesday April 30, 2003 @10:11PM (#5850174) Homepage Journal
    What's so cool about a swivelling screen? Considering how quickly and often laptops develop swivelling screens when the hinges break, I just sort of thought they were intentionally designed that way. Or are they trying to sell this as a feature now?
  • hmm...I didn't see a price in the article, just a note that interested buyers should contact Sony directly. Anybody have any idea how much that thing will cost?

    Somehow I tend to be suspicious of things with no price tag..

  • better, but.. (Score:2, Interesting)

    by j-stroy ( 640921 )
    Good effort, but the ergonomics don't seem quite right. Also surprising it took this long to integrate these technologies.

    I am reminded of that Russian MiG which was flown out to Japan. The reverse engineering team was stunned by what was achieved with "old" technology that was tightly tuned and integrated. I look forward to innovations coming from places where technology has only trickled in due to economic or supply factors, making development more deliberate and well considered.

  • Why all the hybrids? (Score:2, Insightful)

    by inaeldi ( 623679 )
    I've never understood the fascination of combining digital products together. Cell phones with the Internet, laptops with cameras, etc. The way I see it, if you want a laptop, buy a laptop. If you want a camera, buy a camera. If you want both, buy both. Not only do you get a better selection by doing it that way, but you'll probably end up with 2 good products as opposed to 1 mediocre hybrid. Just my $0.02 anyways.
    • You're right. Why would you ever want to build one machine that can do many things when you can build many machines that can do one thing each.

      This whole "universal machine" idea is going nowhere. Quick, someone call Alan Turing.
    • Yep. Now burn your PC, and go buy a stand-alone word processor, adding machine, fax, US VideoTel terminal, and a Playstation.

      This idea that "integration is bad" in the computer age is just stupid. There has never been a tool as flexible and extensible as the PC, and there is no reason not to connect two devices together to share (processor, storage, user interface) resources.

      You want to carry lots of standalone devices? That's fine, Batman, but I like the idea of product integration.
      • >This idea that "integration is bad" in the computer >age is just stupid

        Integration is bad when you're integrating devices with mutually exclusive goals.

        I want a digital camera to be small and light so I can easily carry it and move it around.

        I want a laptop with a little weight (1-2 kilos at least) so it doesn't slide down the desk as I type on it, and with a form factor large enough to have a reasonable keyboard.

        You can't make it both ways without bizarre compromises (something like the famous "
      • oh ok.. you want to put everything in one unit,

        so put a normal computer, camera, fax, printer, scanner, tv, mobile phone, kitchen sink, etc, into one unit.

        problems

        a) price
        b) what happens when a single part of the unit breaks down?
        c) what ever happened to do one thing, and do it well?
        d) interface, how are you going to operate all that shit at the same time, better yet how are you going to operate one part of it when the controls for the rest of it are getting in the way?
        e) looks, is it just me or does tha

        • Re:Why all the hybrids? (Score:4, Interesting)

          by Moofie ( 22272 ) <leeNO@SPAMringofsaturn.com> on Thursday May 01, 2003 @12:26AM (#5850678) Homepage
          Me, I /hate/ redundancy. I think it's just dumb that I can't buy an optical disc jukebox that serves all my computers and my home entertainment system. I think it's silly to have four CD-ROM mechanisms scattered around, when one or two would do just as well (yes, you have to consider two users wanting to do diff. things simultaneously, but that can be engineered around).

          With mobile devices, a PDA, phone, MP3 player, and camera (for example) have about 70% common components (by weight). So, if I'm clever, I can glom together four devices, each of which would weigh four to six ounces or so, and glom them into one eight ounce device (yes, I just made up those numbers). Yes, you need to solve a battery life problem, but I'd rather carry one spare battery for my Uber-Device than four separate devices.

          The One Device hasn't yet been created, but I've seen a couple that are awful close. Kyocera's PDA/phone/MP3 players are awfully attractive.

          Interface design: Do you need to be able to operate your PDA and your camera simultaneously? No? Then why would there be an interface problem? Several PDA/phones have arguably better UI than their individual components because you don't have to hold the PDA in one hand and dial with the other.

          It just takes smart UI design and clever engineering. It can be done, and done well.

          Is Sony's lap-camcorder an example of a good convergence product? Dunno. I'd have to play with it and evaluate the ergonomics. But I'm glad they made it, and I'll be glad to see the machines that replace it.

      • Re:Why all the hybrids? (Score:3, Interesting)

        by radish ( 98371 )
        This idea that "integration is bad" in the computer age is just stupid. There has never been a tool as flexible and extensible as the PC, and there is no reason not to connect two devices together to share (processor, storage, user interface) resources.

        That's the whole point - "connecting together" is fine, "putting in the same box" is not. The PC would never have been successful if they were not upgradeable. How many people on /. just buy a PC from Dell and never open the lid? Very few. Most roll their
        • I stil don't understand why a device that has a mic, and a speaker, and a screen, a processor, storage, and a battery can't function perfectly well as:

          An MP3 player
          A PDA
          A phone

          Add a CCD and it's easy to integrate a camera. Even if the camera isn't as powerful as a nice standalone digital, the fact that it's easy to carry on your person at all times increases its utility.

          A friend of mine just got a Qualcomm camera-phone, and it was a hell of a lot of fun to play with taking candid shots, where I might ha

    • Re:Why all the hybrids? (Score:4, Insightful)

      by russellh ( 547685 ) on Thursday May 01, 2003 @12:33AM (#5850700) Homepage
      I've never understood the fascination of combining digital products together. Cell phones with the Internet, laptops with cameras, etc. The way I see it, if you want a laptop, buy a laptop. If you want a camera, buy a camera.

      They are experiments, a celebration of both people and technology. nobody knows what will work, really, and people always find unintended uses for stuff. so yeah, a swiss army knife is an inferior replacement for all the separate components, but the swiss army knife is about convenience, not being the best corkscrew or tweezer in the world.

  • A Bit Late (Score:2, Insightful)

    by NickisGod.com ( 453769 )
    Nice gadget, but the war is more or less over for now.

    ..."The Ultimate in Embedded Journalism Gear"...

  • New? (Score:3, Informative)

    by fliplap ( 113705 ) on Wednesday April 30, 2003 @10:17PM (#5850215) Homepage Journal
    Wow, I've heard of being late slashdot, but dynamism has been carrying this thing for as long as I can remember.

    "Sony says they had no intention of releasing this prototype computer/camera for general sale. That is, until the flood of interest at PC Expo 2000 Tokyo. It was quite a show for the GT3/K; whether a brilliant marketing tactic or just pure good decision-making by Sony, we're very pleased with the outcome."

    Its still pretty cool though. Btw, here [dynamism.com] is a link to the dynamism page. Or is this supposed to be an article about an american release of the same product?

  • I'll pass (Score:5, Insightful)

    by YrWrstNtmr ( 564987 ) on Wednesday April 30, 2003 @10:20PM (#5850228)
    Little laptop with a swivel screen? OK! (think car PC)

    Reasonable quality digital camcorder? kewl!

    Trying to stabilise the camera with the added, needless weight of a laptop? No thanks.
    A camera that has to be upgraded when the laptop is passe'? No thanks
    Sending my laptop back when the camera dies? No thanks
    Or sending the camera back when my laptop HD dies? No thanks.
    • Yeah. This laptop looks really neat since most tablet PCs are quite large. Just add a touch-screen and I'd consider getting one...If didn't have a damned camera attached to it!.
      • It's called the Sony U3 [dynamism.com] (as well as the new model, the U101).
        Decent specs, and it's priced right around $1500.
        I'd be curious to hear how well the keyboard can be operated, though - it's only about six or seven inches wide.
        • Yeah, but it has no touchscreen, and the screen doesn't swivel around, so it's not really a tablet PC, which is what I was wanting.

          About the keyboard. I had a Jornada 680. It was prolly smaller than this. But I could type reasonably well. Certinaly not like a normal laptop, but good enough for small amounts of typing.

  • The mention of PC Expo 2000, the low end specs of 128RAM and only a 30gig HDD, and the use of WinME and 2k instead of XP lead me to believe that this nifty little "hibread" has been around for a while.

  • Sounds sweet (Score:2, Interesting)

    by wastedbrains ( 588579 )
    How much will a device like this cost when it finally hits the market. This is the kind of convergence technology means.
  • I misread the article title, thought Gtk3 had been released and nearly spilled my coffee on my keyboard.
  • I've seen this thing at Bic Camera in Tokyo for at least a year now...Cool, but not new...
  • *Sigh*

    After reading the release, about how DVD growth is because of File Trading, I was reminded again how these arguments hurt. Not just us, but the entire cause of file-trading.

    First off, the rise in DVD sales is due to the emmergence of digital technology and the market penetration of Digital Devices, on things like Computers, Playstations, etc. Sales of individual films has risen because of the drop of prices of the discs while things like rental costs and PPV fees have risen. Paying $15 for a DVD ful
  • You Spilled Your Laptop on my Camcorder

    What exactly were you doing with that laptop to make it more liquid than solid?
  • This is definately a very unique device

    Maybe it's because I cut words for a living but I *hate* it when I see people abusing the English language like this.

    The word "unique" is an absolute, not a relative adjective. Something is either unique or it's not, you can't have "slightly, moderately, or very" unique!

    Call me pedantic but I call it sloppy coding to misuse words like this ;-)
    • "Very unique" is roughly equivalent to "highly unusual." ;-)
    • Blockquoth the poster:

      The word "unique" is an absolute, not a relative adjective. Something is either unique or it's not, you can't have "slightly, moderately, or very" unique!

      Call me pedantic but I call it sloppy coding to misuse words like this ;-)

      If you think you're coding when you write, then you're going to miss 90% of what makes writing interesting. Human language is not machine language. "Very unique" is a way to stress how unusual the product is. Of course it can't be literally true... but

    • If you cut words for a living, you want to start studying how language really works, and not pretend it's some pure logic system.

      I am unique - there is no other person identical to me in the world. A man born with wings would also be unique - guess which one more deserves the title ?? Hence, I would argue, he would be "more unique".

      If you insist on treating language as pure logic, remember that maths at certain points also does things like compare infinities, whereby some infinite values are taken to be l

  • 128 whole megabytes of RAM? (Score:3, Informative)

    by telstar ( 236404 ) on Wednesday April 30, 2003 @11:39PM (#5850519)
    Woah ... What are we going to do with all of that?
    Seriously ... a video editing machine with 128mb standard ... upgradable to 256mb? That's a toy ... not a machine designed to handle video editing.
    • Obviously it's for casual shooting, probably would be a great vacation movie system. Take it along, videoblog your trip without having to carry around two devices wherever you go. I can definitely see the utility of this device in the amateur video editing market. Though the memory constraints lead me to believe that it probably would work better with a much smaller OS. Toss ME, throw on a very tight version of Linux and 256MB would be more than plenty RAM to handle a video editing session. From a consumer

  • Not that new... (Score:3, Informative)

    by Anonymous Freak ( 16973 ) <anonymousfreak@P ... m minus language> on Wednesday April 30, 2003 @11:52PM (#5850565) Journal
    For those who are wondering about the pedantic specs (600Mhz Crusoe? 128MB RAM???) This was released over two years ago. (The Wayback Macine's 19 November, 2000 cache [archive.org] of Dynamism [dynamism.com]'s web site shows the original GT1, which has almost identical specs. And the GT3/K is first mentioned in the 1 August, 2001 cache [archive.org].
    • wondering about the pedantic specs

      Uh? What sort of specs would you say are not pedantic then? "A fairly slow processor and not that much RAM?" Being pedantic is kinda the point of giving you specs.

  • Since this has been out for a while does anyone
    know if this thing puts a config on screen.
    Most camcorders have a bunch of buttons that you
    have to get used to. Does allow you to use usual
    GUI interface to set camcorder options? Does it
    have help to go with it? If so then this may have
    its uses.
  • Trey and Matt should sue for IP rights.
  • Sony Glasstron(Monocle system) [reviewfinder.com]+Transmeta Proc'd System/DV cam=camera men on the cheap.

  • hybrid devices (Score:4, Insightful)

    by roalt ( 534265 ) <slashdot,org&roalt,com> on Thursday May 01, 2003 @01:08AM (#5850802) Homepage Journal
    The problem with these hybrid devices is that that:
    1. It's probably not the best laptop you want...
    2. It's probably not the best camera around you want... (680,000 pixel CCD is not exactly top)

    Instead of mixing these 2 devices together, I suggest just let those two device support some kind of wireless protocol (WiFi or something similar) so they can have the same functionality as this device, but they need not be connected to eachother physically...

    Okay, it might add up a bit to the weight (extra battery pack for the 2nd device), but then, you don't need to carry the whole device in your hand...

  • Just add 802.11xx (Score:2, Interesting)

    by su-geek ( 126437 )
    I think they need to add wireless so one can record to a bsse station as bandwidth permits. I have been wanting to build something like this for awhile, I was going to use a single board computer and wireless + a screen of some type. I may still.
  • Does anyone else think it looks like an Amstrad Emailer [currys.co.uk]

    Rus

  • 17 hours? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by vanyel ( 28049 ) * on Thursday May 01, 2003 @03:29AM (#5851074) Journal
    Personally, I think most of the interest around it is because the batteries are supposed to last 17 hours. Who cares about the camera...

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