Computer History Museum 155
nickynicky9doors writes: "New Scientist has an interview with computer historian Michael Williams. Mr. Williams has undertaken to set up a world class computer museum. My favourite was always the Cray 2 which used artificial human blood plasma as a coolant, but the article talks of the 1965 HoneyWell kitchen computer which was built for the Neiman Marcus department store. At a cost of $10,500 it came with 2 programming manuals and a cookbook. Garbage In was by way of flickering binary switches and Garbage Out was by a row of blinking lights. There's more at www.computerhistory.org."
Call for Donors... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Call for Donors... (Score:1)
The Computer Museum (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:The Computer Museum (Score:1)
Re:The Computer Museum (Score:1)
Artificial human blood... (Score:1)
Re:Artificial human blood... (Score:1)
Illustrate the Complexity of Machines (Score:5, Interesting)
You get to journey back into time and put yourself in the shoes of researchers who were trying to figure out how to solve the most complex problems of the day, all while having a newfangled electronic appliance the size of a room do all of the work for you.
In times such as ours where computing for the every day person involves little more than pointing, clicking, and writing IMs or emails, we should all learn to appreciate and marvel at computers.
There's no better way to learn about the current information technology field than by studying the past.
I applaud people like Michael Williams.
Re:Illustrate the Complexity of Machines (Score:1)
Re:Illustrate the Complexity of Machines (Score:1)
Re:Illustrate the Complexity of Machines (Score:1, Informative)
Here's the link [uiuc.edu]
Thanks for pointing it out - it might come in handy.
Re:Illustrate the Complexity of Machines (Score:3, Informative)
Take a look at the Vintage Computer Festival [vintage.org]. There are a lot of people who are working hard to preserve the history of the computer industry.
Keep in mind that it's also important to show people that what they think is new [microsoft.com] just might not be [spies.com].
P.S., You can check out my collection [sinasohn.com] too.
A tour (Score:2, Funny)
'Hello'
ENIAC: '010100'
Tour Guide 'It says it's happy to see you children.'
'Next on your right is an Apple//e....
Re:A tour (Score:1)
That's also assuming it's ASCII
Re:A tour (Score:1, Funny)
Can't you read?
Re:A tour (Score:2)
Re:A tour (Score:1)
Re:A tour (Score:2)
Remember that in those early days every computer was a unique, one-of-a-kind creation. There were no standards for anything -- not even keyboards.
Re:A tour (Score:1)
Memorabilia (Score:2, Insightful)
Love the questions (Score:2, Interesting)
What about this huge contraption with all the vacuum tubes?
The realist
Is it possible the general public doesn't care about these machines?
The pitiful
Isn't there something rather sad about collections of old computers?
It's nice to see some humanity in articles
1965 (Score:3, Interesting)
That's how long ago it was that the 7-segment display seemed like Space:1999 technology.
--Blair
already done (Score:3, Informative)
Re:already done (Score:2)
Many of the machines in this guy's collection came from the Boston Computer Museum when it shut down, not that long ago.
Re:already done (Score:1)
Re:already done (Score:2)
The related Kuro5kin article [kuro5hin.org] has a handful of useful links and a good summary of this new museum's background, funding, etc.
artificial what?? (Score:5, Informative)
Oh, man, do I even need to take the time to correct this?
The Cray 2, like several successors including the C90 and T90, used liquid fluorocarbon as a coolant. This is true.
To say that liquid fluorocarbon is artificial blood plasma is simply false. There are several commercial products that can be used as blood substitutes-- such as Oxycyte-- but these are oxygen-carrying perfluorocarbon (PFC) emulsions. These products are about as similar to the liquid coolant used in the Cray 2 as scrambled eggs are to mayonnaise.
The coolants used in the various Crays, plus lots of other electronic systems, were all pure perfluorocarbon liquids, like Fluorinert, which is a commercial product produced and sold by 3M. They're good choices for immersion cooling because they're chemically inert. Ironically, most of them (like FC-87, fer instance) have boiling points well below that of water; FC-87's is around 30C. They're useful anyway because they're dense and have specific heats about four times less than water's.
The various artificial blood products, though, are PFC emulsions, in which microscopic droplets of PFC are suspended in a saline solution. These liquids can be used because gases like oxygen and CO2 are highly soluble in PFC. Since the droplets of PFC are about 70 times smaller than red blood cells, it's very easy for them to act like RBCs in the blood stream for gas transfer.
The fact that Cray's are liquid cooled is neat enough without messing it up with misinformation.
Re:artificial what?? (Score:2)
Alcahol.
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Soko
Re:artificial what?? (Score:2)
This is not a troll or flamebait, I just want to know...
They're good choices for immersion cooling because they're chemically inert
then you sayThese liquids can be used because gases like oxygen and CO2 are highly soluble in PFC.
If they are inert then how are O2 & CO2 soluble in it?
Re:artificial what?? (Score:2, Informative)
So you can have C02 and O2 dissolved in a chemically inert liquid just fine. No chemical reaction is necessary to get a solution. In fact, if there is a chemical reaction, you don't have a solution; you have a compound.
Re:artificial what?? (Score:2)
You know... that's a good question. I'm not sure. Maybe calling PFC "inert" is an overstatement. Maybe it's better to call it nonconductive and noncorrosive. Or maybe gases are only soluble in emulsions of PFC.
You caught me. Good question.
Cooling Stuff (Score:1)
They're useful anyway because they're dense and have specific heats about four times less than water's.
Most organic liquids have a specific heat capacity much less than that of water; 0.2 to 0.25 is typical. That is not good. High density offsets this when comparison is made on a volumetric basis. Also, most organics have poor heat transfer coefficients compared to water. Coolers are usually designed to boil the heat transfer medium because heat transfer coefficient is much higher when the heated medium boils; a smaller cooling coil can be used.
Re:artificial what?? (Score:2)
On the other hand, I have a newfound curiosity about what happens when you use FC-87 as blood substitute... 30C, isn't it?
Just make sure it doesn't catch on fire... (Score:1)
Re:Just make sure it doesn't catch on fire... (Score:2)
Riiiight... a Google search for fluorinert "mustard gas" turns up a total of 10 hits, the ones that mention Fluorinert turning into mustard gas are from some thread on Beowulf clusters. And that claim was only made by one person... so I'm supposed to believe it?
Well, I don't... Mustard gas contains sulfur and chlorine... in particular, it's C4H8Cl2S. On the other hand, Fluorinert is a fluorocarbon--it contains carbon, fluorine, and maybe hydrogen. There's no way you're going to get mustard gas from burning it (in air at least). In fact, Fluorinert is non-flammable. Good luck setting it on fire in the first place!
That said, it does decompose into hydrofluoric acid and other stuff if you heat it too much, so I guess that would be a bad thing :) But it's not mustard gas.
Here's the MSDS for FC-71: http://www.sisweb.com/referenc/articles/fc71.htm [sisweb.com] and FC-5311: http://www.sisweb.com/referenc/articles/fc5311.htm [sisweb.com]
Thanks for the FUD, Bob Glamm [beowulf.org]!
Re:Just make sure it doesn't catch on fire... (Score:2)
As opposed to breathing the fluorinert itself [scienceweb.org], of course!
Re:artificial what?? (Score:1)
This is just an FYI. You probably did not even know that.
Yes he did, you half retarded monkey with FAS.
He went through and explained how PFC's have excellent applications in cooling, _and_ how they have properties simlar to red blood cells.
Scrambled eggs == pure/nearly pure PFCs
Mayo == PFCs mixed/diluted in saline solution
(and this _is_ meant to be a flame, a troll, _and_ an inane comment)
Re:artificial what?? (Score:2)
Yes... and thus endeth the analogy. Scrambled eggs are eggs. Mayonnaise is an emulsion of eggs and air suspended in an oil matrix.
Fluorinert is made of PFC. Oxycyte and other artificial blood compounds are emulsions of PFC in a saline matrix.
I choose my comparison pretty carefully.
Computer museum?? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Computer museum?? (Score:1)
Re:Computer museum?? (Score:1)
Hehe , I have one of them. Got it new, in September 81, when I was five. Everytime I look at it, I wonder how cool it would be to drop an Athlon in it.
It would look cool as hell, but I would have to butcher it....
Re:Computer museum?? (Score:1)
My Visit to the Smithsonian (Score:1)
Re:My Visit to the Smithsonian (Score:1)
Re:My Visit to the Smithsonian (Score:2)
I'm going to go now and see if there's any openings at the retirement home. There at least I can gum my jello and scribble in my Fortran Coloring Book and read all about Grandma's Drawers...
The Smithsonian Made At Least One Mistake (Score:2)
The Smithsonian made at least one mistake which I pointed out here [vrml3d.com] and later backed up with photos. [vrml3d.com]
I visited the museum several months after the pictures were taken, and the mistake was still there. There was not even a piece of tape over it or anything. Now, I realize nobody likes to see tape over a sign in a museum, but are facts important or are they only concerned about appearances?
Then of course there is the possibility that Intel donated a lot of money to the museum. The Smithsonian has had some corporate entanglements lately. I'm as much for small government as anybody, but don't do it halfway. Either fund the museum fully so that it doesn't have to have corporate logos all over it, or totally defund it. If you visit the museum, you will see heavy involvement from the Discovery Channel and some other sponsors.
Then of course there is that other bit where they had a poll in the museum that was supposed to track approval ratings for politicians among museum vistors. I visited that a few times during the Clinton administration, and the numbers for Democratic leaders were all suspiciously pegged at 54%, as if they had throttled negative responses.
The fall in prestige and other management issues at the Smithsonian are well documented. The bottom line? I don't trust the Smithsonian. Sad but true.
Brings back some memories!!! (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Brings back some memories!!! (Score:2)
Blinkenlights! (Score:2)
Re:Blinkenlights! (Score:2)
Perhaps you mean " Blinkenlights! [blinkenlights.com]"?
Been there - done that (Score:5, Interesting)
Is it possible the public doesn't care? Yes.
Witness "The Computer Museum". Originally Gordon Bell's private collection (as in the VAX guy then Nat'l Science Foundation) it was formalized into "The Digital Computer Museum" - Digital as in DEC.
Later when folks at other companies became leery of donating gifts to their competitor's in-house museum it was spun off into the space built for a transportation museum and became "The Computer Museum". Gordon's wife Gwen took a leadership role, DEC donated lots of support and the place went... nowhere.
It was a good try. Gwen's vision had always been halls of gray boxes through to the movers and shakers of the industry would make pilgrimages, fund through philanthropic impulse, perhaps hold power lunches at a cafe. Instead the bread-and-butter reality of school groups and tourists finally prevailed and more "friendly" exhibits (eg the Walk-Through Computer) were installed as budgets permitted.
However too little too late. The costs of running a museum were high, lots of local computer groups were themselves failing (many of them burning the TCM along the way) and the place never really found its feet. The great hope of the sexy Java-based virtual fish tank teaching all sorts of interesting theories took a few million bucks in donations and produced a pretty but most incomprehensible exhibit that, frankly, tanked the place.
The programs went to Boston's Museum of Science, the collections out to the west coast branch where they were reincarnated as what we see today.
So - do folks care? I doubt it.
Museums cost. Yes I know to folks on the outside they look nice and simple but they're not. What you see on the floor is usually far less then 1/10th of a collection: A collection that requires high-quality (museum-quality) storage if you're to treat it right for the ages. It requires research and documentation and maintenance. It requires insurance and access and continual expansion if it is to keep up. The public facilities themselves need to be maintained and insured and secured and managed. The exhibits must be maintained and updated and replaced on a regular place if you want folks to ever come back. Grants need to be applied for and marketing has to happen to get word out and keep folks coming. Staff needs to be paid for as well as support be given to research programs and visiting scholars. Then there are the daily school groups and tour groups and regular private rentals and public special events etc.
This all takes a lot of money and widespread support, particularly if you're to do a good job and respect the trust your collection represents.
Yes hope springs eternal but we've already been here once. Yes it's Silly Valley and there's a dearth of tourist facilities and lots of folks who did get rich on dotcom and are looking for something they can sponsor. But Boston had it's own computer folks and more students then you can shake a stick at. Six of one, half dozen of the other and it still doesn't add up to enough. I've fond memories of TCM and wish TMHC the best but feel ultimately this sort of project is too big for a stand-alone institution while serving too small a niche; other institutions like the Smithsonian with larger budgets, stronger research programs, their own collections with more facilities & more services would do better.
But hey, the second time is always better.
The author was involved at the setting up of Computer Place at Boston's Museum of Science. Later I became a manager at The Computer Museum. Afterwards I went back to school and from there into industry though I've always kept up with much of The Computer Museum news from a distance. If we met there drop a line.
I did an internship at the computer museum... (Score:1)
also, most of the museums exhibits never advanced past the 80's. One of the interactive display, informed people that most home computers ran at 2-4 mhz, and the "virtual reality" secion, featured a "Hard Drivin'" arcade game, made by Atari, which was quite hard...and the only visitor to ever beat the first race, was a little girl, who came as part of a school group.
That's my biggest memory of the computer museum.
The software side should be much cheaper (Score:1)
I realize dealing with old equipment can be a handful, but why not have a good "Software Museum" *on* the web?
I tried to find some info about pre-relational database query languages (besides IMS stuff), but came up short beyond a few acronyms mentioned.
You don't need buildings for a software museum. (Well, maybe some of the manuals are paper of course, but find a cheap warehouse in Wyoming or something. Otherwise, scan it in and put it online.)
Re:The software side should be much cheaper (Score:1, Interesting)
As to a software museum, actually there is a bit of a collection of that. I recall at TCM loading up SpaceWar from paper-tape (one of my job-skills was being able to read papertape - it's not difficult once one gets the hang and has the symbols committed to memory) onto the PDP-1, there were other like choice bits.
However there's more issue then just putting the code out there for folks to look at. First off much of it is encumbered by license/copyright so that would need to be resolved. Next is simply getting it off of any medium it is on - the loss of readers is well known in the field. Then of course are the format and OS version questions ("what *is* this string of binary?") Documentation is typically either a storage/indexing issue or simply non-existant, or in it's own difficult-to-decypher format.
It's a great idea, and it would be wonderful to approach many of the pioneers in the field still extant and ask them for material regarding their discoveries and first applications along with examples. However to simply put out for the world material of unclear provinance would be unethical and the sort of tarpit any museum would steer well-clear of (the nightmare of war-treasure and stolen artifacts is a well recognized one.)
Posting "orphanware" Atari-cartridges on semi-legit websites is far different then a scholarly presentation of code evolution and diversity.
However it is more then likely TCHM or others are doing something of the sort, or would welcome support in such a project. While I listed a number of issues they're no more then museums of say Television or Rock & Roll have faced, certianly they're surmountable and I agree, they're going to be important.
Re:The software side should be much cheaper (Score:1)
It is odd that companies would be protective of manuals and programming languages from the 1950's.
However, I guess it is the polite thing to do to ask.
BTW, I saw nothing on their website about E. F. Codd.
Re:Been there - done that (Score:1)
Ancient Computing (Score:1)
Some links
Two timelines here [digitalcentury.com] and here [cyberstreet.com] which date well back into B.C.
There is even an ancient Greek clocklike machine over two thousand years old that can be found here. [giant.net.au]
For those who want links to every type of computing, [warbaby.com] even modern. [thinkquest.org]
Re:Ancient Computing (Score:2)
Weren't there also french looms in the late 1800's that ran from punch cards?
The timeline they have up doesn't even start until 1945. Maybe they should rename it the "Digital" Computing Museum?
You gave some great links there! Thanks!
sigh (Score:4, Insightful)
Things were really hopping in computers a few decades ago. The high-level-laguage, GUI's, timesharing systems, networking. . . it was all new and exciting. It seems, though, that the wave has broken. Nothing new seems to have happened since the early '90's, when the WWW was first envisioned.
I catch myself sitting in classes with other CS majors who have never really learned DOS and are awed by and afraid of OpenGL and thinking back to high school when I spent my free time programming cute little VGA hacks in x86 assembly language and can't help but feel a twinge of superiority based on some unfounded feeling that I have touched the machine itself and they have not.
Then I go to a museum like this, take a look at what my elders were working on, and realize that I am the small fish. The magi have played their part, and I have a feeling of dread that the field has more or less reached its plateau point.
Re:sigh, but for a different reason (Score:2)
I totally understand this article's sentiment, and I'm not even that old. I remember when I was in third grade I went to a form of summer school, and learned to program on the Apple IIE on the side. I still remember the first real program I wrote, that is the first one with more than 10 lines - a simple three frame animation created by manually turning on and off individual pixels. I was really proud of that (remember, I was very young, and working on my own, so even though it wasn't much, it was hard for me).
I still have it on a totally useless 5 1/4" disk, though I can't use it, and its totally worthless and pathetic compared to today's stuff.
..Sigh..
I don't even think I use most of the knowledge I learned from back then.
Flowcharts, goto loops, and even BASIC have all been declared bad because they lead to obscurity in coding, and even the interfaces (both command and within the major programs - sort of GUIish) of my first two computers (school used Apple IIE, while I used the Commodore 64 at home) have completely gone the way of the dinosaurs.
Re:sigh (Score:1)
I completely agree with this, and I'm not even old either (20).
The first means of Internet access my family had was via this textmode online service called Delphi. This was before there were any local ISPs in my area, at least that I knew about, and on top of that, our 2400bps modem was insufficient for anything other than textmode.
Anyway, I was a moderate video game enthusiast, and one of the first websites I ever visited, at around 11:30pm, was www.nintendo.com. On Nintendo's site, which had to have been quite new at the time, there was a link to some kind of "About" page. Nothing special, except for the way it "hit" me. There was something about knowing that the characters on my screen had originated from Seattle thousands of miles away that just made me go "wow." On the page was some kind of random quip like, "the food at CafZ Mario is top notch," and it just made me stop and think: What did CafZ Mario look like? Would the lights be on at this time of night? What kind of food did they serve?
I suppose, in short, the web, or the WWW as it was usually called then, served as the ultimate antithesis to the relative isolation I was so used to. (Or something.)
I remember my first 28.8 modem, with my first PPP link to an ISP (this was right after SLIP fell out of favor, around them time when 8MB of RAM cost $300). My ISP gave me Mosaic to use as my web browser. Shortly thereafter, I went to download a new web browser... I think it was called "Netscape" or something. This was back when Netscape was considered really cool. Remember how the N used to animate differently than it does now? It was cooler then. Remember how... okay, nevermind.
I could go on even more about the first time I actually chatted with people over the Net (WOW!! REAL... PEOPLE!! They can hear me! They're TALKING to me! Ahhhh!"), and how now I don't even think twice about it. As could others, I'm sure.
Alex
Re:sigh (Score:1)
So you can see I'm really not that old... I'm a youngster compared to most geeks.
Re:sigh (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:sigh (Score:2)
Despite missing these things, I'm like you in some ways that my first computing experiences predated the WWW, I've done some assembly (on a speccy, though). I worked in the computing department of a university, and some of the things I saw was worrying, not least the fact that the only language many of them was taught was Java. I'm waiting for a new era of buffer overruns and memory leaks to happen, simply because they've never been taught how. Hell, I learned C/C++ at Uni, and despite my tending to be fairly determined at letting them through, one of my programs had a small (5 bytes every second or so, IIRC, but it adds up) memory leak that went unnoticed for several months.
Well I am old enough... (Score:2)
In the 70's and early 80's, anybody with the time to spare could write a really fine application comparable to anything offered by the SW industry, and a lot of them did and their wares were superb. The C64, Apple II, TRS-80, and even the early PC often hosted apps written by little guys and marketed by small shops.
Ironically, it was the Mac that killed this. The GUI was so complicated that it could be programmed only with an expensive kit and a lot of experience. (Oddly, the Amiga overcame this but Apple killed it in court.) When Micro$oft followed Apple's lead with Windoze, the door was closed on small, clever apps. Nobody would understand or know how to use them any more unless a huge overhead of (usually useless) functionality was supported.
In the 1980's some of the most popular games ever written were written by individuals, either working for companies like Atari or on their own. Even the big companies would have individuals or teams of 3-4 people writing a project. Now, writing a game or office utility is like directing a movie. There are far too many details for an individual to take care of, so a massive heirarchally-organized team is needed just to finish the project; and there is no central vision, no personal sense of pride in the people who actually pound out the code. And we wonder why software breaks nowadays.
It may be quixotic, but you can still go back: stella@biglist.com is the mailing list for retrogamers programming the Atari 2600. Check 'em out. Read the archive and links and marvel at how our ancestors managed with 128 bytes (no K or M there, 0.1K) of RAM and 4K of ROM.
Since We're Talking History..... (Score:2, Funny)
The History of the Slashdot World
From a mailing list written by Seth
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A.D. 1000: The epic of the Beowulf Cluster is written down. It is the first English epic poem.
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A.D. 1969: Neil Armstrong becomes the first man to set foot on the moon. His immortal words: "FIRST MOONWALK!!!"
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A.D. 1990: West Germany and East Germany reunite after 45 years of separation. ESR triumphantly proclaims that Germany "gets it".
A.D. 1994: As years of apartheid rule finally end, Nelson Mandela is elected president of South Africa. ESR is sick, and sadly misses his chance to triumphantly proclaim that South Africa "gets it".
A.D. 1997: Slashdot reports that Scottish scientists have succeeded in cloning a female sheep named Dolly. Numerous readers complain that if they had wanted information on the latest sheep releases, they would have just gone to freshsheep.net
A.D. 1999: Miramax announces Don Knotts to play hacker Emmanuel Goldstein in upcoming movie "Takedown"
job oppertunity? (Score:3, Funny)
How about a dork that collects stupid old computers b/c he has no money to buy up-to-date fast ones?
Please?
Re:job oppOrtunity? (Score:1)
Re:job oppertunity? (Score:1)
Why the hell not! You have something against a proper liberal arts education?
Re:job oppertunity? (Score:2)
Re:job oppertunity? (Score:1)
Original Computer Museum (Score:2)
See details here [mos.org]
Which is really said, since it was a really great place. The huge collection of old stuff they had is now out at moffet field, as seen in at http://www.computerhistory.org [www.computerhistory.org]
I was said to see that stuff go.
Re:Original Computer Museum (Score:2)
They had most of the early robots, ones of major historical importance like Shakey and the Hopkins Beast. I hope they've been preserved.
They even have an original geek (Score:2, Funny)
Black wingtips, white socks and hairy ankles. Dad?
The Original Obsolete COmputer Museum (Score:1, Informative)
The obsolete Computer Museum! [obsoleteco...museum.org]
Pre-1945 and Colossus (Score:4, Informative)
Collosus (Score:3, Informative)
Baby I'm back! (Score:1)
What does the future hold for computing? (Score:2, Funny)
[in the late '70s]
[Frink stands in front of a huge mainframe]
Frink: Well, sure, the Frinkiac-7 looks impressive [to student] Don't
touch it! [back to class] But I predict that within 100 years
computers will be twice as powerful, 10,000 times larger, and
so expensive that only the five richest kings in Europe will
own them.
Apu: Could it be used for dating?
Frink: Well, technically, yes, but the computer matches would be so
perfect as to eliminate the thrill of romantic conquest. Ha-ho-
ha-hey-hoo.
How timely... (Score:2)
An appropriate quote from Les Solomon, who was editor of Popular Electronics and provided the world with the first glimpse of the Altair:
There's also The Tech (Score:1)
Tinkertoy computer (Score:3, Interesting)
I couldn't find any photos of it; just a tiny little blurb [computerhistory.org] here. I think A.K. Dewdney's Scientific American column in October 1989 also talked about it. Dewdney also used it as the title of one of his books collecting his columns.
Re:Tinkertoy computer (Score:1)
Speaking of old computers... (Score:4, Interesting)
The Secret Guide to Computers - Vol 1
and
The Secret Guide to Computers - Vol 2: Deep Secrets
Both are of the 11th edition, written and published by Russ Walter - no ISBN, because in Russ' own words: "Ha ha ha! You think this book is standard?"
These books are weird, and wonderful at the same time - they have strange "rainbow" colored covers, and the introduction in the first volume starts out with the line "Computers are like drugs: you begin by spending just a little money on them, but then you get so excited by the experience-and so hooked-that you wind up spending more and more money, to feed your habit."
It takes the reader through introduction to programming, microcomputers, a bit of computer history, language history (listing some languages and origins I didn't even know about - and I collect this kind of info!) - you name the topic, and if it is from the early-80's and prior, it is in there. There is a wonderful section on computer "art", with crude black-and-white "photos" of early computer line drawings - including a series of Ivan Sutherland's "Aircraft Carrier Landing Simulator" - 3D graphics from the late 60's - early 70's!!!
What is even more strange about the books is the amount of background info they give on the histories of various companies involved in microcomputers - plus info on the micros themselves (once again, if it existed, it is in the book - CP/M even features pretty prominantly). It gets even more strange - vague and not-so-vague references to sex, etc - about throughout the book: In the section on Russ' version of assembly language (his own creation), the opening section title is "SEXY ASS" - I kid you NOT (watch the lameness filter catch that). That section details what he terms "Simple EXcellent-for-You ASSembler" - then goes on to "teach" how to use this variant of assembler...
He has another language called "EASY"...
How rare (or common?) was this set of books - I have never seen another copy (as opposed to David Ahl's BASIC Games series, of which I have seen numerous copies)? Has anyone else come across it?
I couldn't resist buying it - and at a quarter per book (oooh, a whole 50 cents!) - it was MINE...
Re:Speaking of old computers... (Score:2, Informative)
The ISBN for it is 0-939151-14-6, but its not printed inside the book anywhere.
Apparently, they're still being printed too the 27th! edition just came out. --http://www.angelfire.com/nh/secret/ [angelfire.com] [angilfire.com]
Amazing... (Score:2)
Thanks for the update - I have got to email this guy...
I had once when I was a kid (Score:2)
I think by the time I had this book I as already interested in computers but it definatley helped me choose programming as a career. I really liked the great overview it had of various languages, like COBOL.
Re:Speaking of old computers... (Score:1)
BTW, he will sell you a copy of the original 11th edition of TSGTC (probably the same one you bought) for 30 cents plus a dollar shipping, so you saved $1.05 by picking it up at a garage sale!
The impressive days of geekdom (Score:2, Informative)
I think my favourite part of the computer museum's website is their inclusion of music performed by an old IBM 1403 printer.
Apparently, some engineers managed to find the right lines of characters to produce printer noise of a known pitch. Feeding in punch cards appropriately, they were able to produce output which would form certain tunes. They have some recordings available for download here [computerhistory.org].
Computer Museum on CDROM? (Score:3, Interesting)
The people who did all the design work would all be talked about too. And any publically available writings would be there too.
How cool would it be to browse a history book on computer and actually be able to bring up an emulator of the machine in question? Aren't there emulators for most of these things anyway?
Use a very general purpose emulator that uses a specification file that fully describes the complete machine. The specification file could be in XML so that other programs can mine the config files for data, like a program that will tell you the code for the letter A on every computer ever made. Or tell you every computer ever made that used ascii.
Neumann (Score:1)
i found "John von Neumann" twice...
is he related to sven Neumann of gimp?
Oh yeah? (Score:2)
Re:Oh yeah? (Score:2)
Wasn't it called "Presentation Manager for DOS" back then? I seem to remember it was PMD then Windows 286, then Windows 3.0, after which everyone knows the numbering.