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Fossil's $145 PDA Watch 122

Posted by michael from the please-steal-me dept.
Robogeek writes: "News.com reports that Fossil will launch its $145 Wrist PDA in early 2002 - "a watch that doubles as a Palm- or Pocket PC-compatible organizer." Apparently, the 190KB device will accept data imported from your PDA via infrared. But isn't this kind of redundant if you're already carrying your PDA with you? (And can't enter data directly into the watch?) Besides, what I really want is a combo phone/mp3 player/PDA watch, dammit!"
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  • it's redundant, palms and winCE devices now have enough ram space!

  • Good grief! (Score:2, Funny)

    by atgrim ( 103715 )
    Wearable computers, wrist PDAs... At this rate, if you get past airport security, you will need a master power switch to turn yourself off and on for take-off and landings! ;-)

  • Requirements (Score:2, Funny)

    by mlinksva ( 1755 )
    Besides, what I really want is a combo phone/mp3 player/PDA watch, dammit!

    I'll require a GPS receiver with that, the the audio portion better handle ogg vorbis. ssh access would be nice too.

    Till then, I'll remain gadgetless.

    • you forgot wireless broadband of same sort and the ability to play Quake on it, i mean what use are gedgets if you cant frag ppl with them ?


  • Unlike this silly PDA watch, my watch is infinitely precise twice daily.


    Unfortunately I can't both have the watch on my arm and see the time it shows simultaneously with out it killing my cat.

  • The problem I have with my Palm III is tossing in in to the seat bag of my bike when I go off for an afternoon ride.

    I'm often on call all day - and as long as I've got my cell phone and my palm (sycn'd to my deskptop) - I can pretty much handle anything that comes up. But I haven't found a great way to keep all of it (phone and organizer) at hand with out having my belt starting to look like the batman's.

    If I could painlessly off load my schedule and my phone list to a wristwatch - and then just schlep a little phone/email/web combo doohicky - I'd be in mobile worker heaven!

    And people wouldn't shake their heads and lower their eyes when I walk by - like they used to do in High School when I proudly wore my TI-55 on my belt loop... grin.
    • My phone has a calander, phone list, to do list, and it does the list. Most phones do these days and many can sync with your desktop. That's the only problem with the watch as far as I'm concerned. It duplicates cell phone capabilities which most people carry 24x7 anyway (at least those who want PDA watches
    • Or you could just get a cell phone/PalmOS-based PDA all-in-one. I saw one a couple of days ago and it was pretty cool. It's a fully functional PDA and acts just like any other palm pilot or visor. And it's actually about the size of a normal cell phone.. the only interface difference is that there are the four onetouch buttons for Agenda|Contacts|Todo|Memo.
    • Hear hear. I do 40-80 mile bicycling tours every weekend, and it'd be nice to have an easy way to carry a PDA aside from using irritating bicycle bags or belts. ;) Hmm, wonder how well AvantGo would work on this watch... :P
    • Yeah, you can do that easy. Just get a Kyocera phone. It opens to include a slightly smaller palm unit in it.

      Enjoy.
    • And people wouldn't shake their heads and lower their eyes when I walk by - like they used to do in High School when I proudly wore my TI-55 on my belt loop... grin.
      ----

      The problem was that you didn't have an HP. shame shame
    • Sounds like you need one of the new Palm/Phone Combos. I bought a Kyocera 6035 SmartPhone a couple of months ago, and I can't say enough good things about it. It's got it's faults, sure, but they're livable, and the ability to a) have ALL your numbers at hand, and b) have them seamlessly integrated with the phone is worth every bit of the purchase price, especially now that there are starting to be decentl deals on this phone (I paid only $150 for mine at Office Max, less than the cost of a new Palm alone...)

      Samsung has a new one that looks like it could be good, too, and then there's the Visor stuff, if you don't mind a GSM cancerphone. (I'll stick to CDMA, thanks, especially since the latest research shows there is *definitely* a link between cellphone RF and brain cancer/effects....)
  • Fossil has always offered stylish quality products at an affordable price. Can't wait to get one :)
    • I love Fossil. Their outlet stores are fantastic -- their designs (both watches and sunglasses and the other stuff they sell like wall clocks and lunchboxes) adhere to the retro-futuristic aesthetic (think Hugo Gernsback and the Jetsons), but their products are priced for consumers, not fashion snobs.
  • That's it! Now we know what PDA's have been lacking in all this time... a way to tell time! All we need is to figure out some way to create a "clock" program for Palm/PocketPC! I have a feeling that within the next 2 years the available hardware will be capable of such complex calculations

  • My Casio and I (Score:3, Informative)

    by Man of E ( 531031 ) <i.have@no.email.com> on Friday November 09, 2001 @11:59PM (#2547397)
    This Fossil is great - I wish it had appeared earlier. Still, some quibbles that will prevent me from ever buying one. Here goes.

    I used to have a great Casio calculator watch. It had storage for phone numbers, a calendar, and could serve as a four-function calculator. Great stuff.
    Since it didn't sync with a computer, you had to input data by hand. This was at the same time a limitation and a blessing - numbers had to be typed in one by one, but you could always type something in whenever you needed to take a note.
    Back to the Fossil.

    • You can't type things in. This is key if someone gives you a phone number, or you stumble across something you need to remember. You come off looking like a nerd, but I'd much rather look like a nerd with a cool watch than a nerd with a cool watch and lots of paper scraps in his shirt pocket.
    • It syncs your entire address book. I for one don't want every single address that's on my computer to be sent to my watch. Searching and browsing is a pain, and I'd much rather only have numbers that I need on hand. My Casio only ever had at most 40 numbers in it - important ones.
    Because of its limitations, I got a Xircom Rex MiniPDA (basically a PCMCIA card with a touch-screen that does addresses, notes, calendar, and third-party apps). In the end, I threw out the Casio and got an analog watch. The Rex does everything I'd ever need a PDA to do, and it's tiny. This sounds like a product plug - must stop now.
    • Yes, I was thinking about the data entry part. I didn't mind the annoying duplicate key pressing on my old Casio calculator watch from 1994. I just wished it had a PDA :).
    • I thought Intel had discontinued the Rex.
      • They're not producing them anymore, but they're still for sale, and Intel still offers tech support. I bought mine some time ago though, so I don't know much about availability.
        It's really a pity since it's such a good product. Grab it while you can, keep it while it lasts or until it becomes truly obsolete. I hope maybe another company will sometime figure out there's a market for this kind of thing.
    • Because of its limitations, I got a Xircom Rex MiniPDA (basically a PCMCIA card with a touch-screen that does addresses, notes, calendar, and third-party apps). In the end, I threw out the Casio and got an analog watch. The Rex does everything I'd ever need a PDA to do, and it's tiny. This sounds like a product plug - must stop now.

      I've got what seems to be the perfect (for me) solution - a device that is functionally identical to a Rex, only it attaches to the back of my Startac phone. It's called a Snapon, Motorola marketed them for a while. They are end-of-lining the things these days for whatever reason, which means they can be had for a song. I got one for $40, and they went for $300 or so at first.

      Anyhow, it's fantastic - keeps a bajillion phone numbers, my calendar, etc etc, just like any competent PDA should. And, it is one with my phone. Fits in the holster right on back of the Startac on my belt. And it dials the phone for me, which is a real miracle. I wish I knew of a source to tell you to get more of these - it's really great.

      • It's called a Snapon,

        correction: it's called a ClipOn Organizer, not a Snapon. Sorry about that.

        Oh and by the way, the 2-minute-post-limit thing and the 20-second-reply-limit thing are freaking annoying.
      • yup - know exactly what your talking about.. it'a little big but quite nice. If anyone is interested I know where you can get one of these.. just e-mail me. Also the Motorola's i90c [motorola.com] is quite nice as well - MIDI Ring Tones, Java 2 ME, Date Book, Address book - not to mention the whole internet access thing.

        -neil
    • check out the ironman datalink...sold at most any [x]-mart/target. it is cool.
  • Does anyone remember the MP3 watch? I didn't think so. I'll summarize:

    kerrr-FLOP!

    People just don't want huge clunky watches. Especially when they aren't very useful. (The MP3 watch had a whopping 32MB of storage...)
  • Wow. So they've managed to make a watch with slightly more memory than the Timex Datalink that was available over 5 years ago.

    The only difference seems to be the use of IR as the interface.
    • I've had a Datalink since shortly after they came out.. And it still only has the data I entered into it the first week I got it..
      • I've had about 4 different datalink models -- the original, two of the middle ones (the 100?) and one of the newer 150s. I'd break or lose them (had the last one stolen) but only updated the info on them every few months.

        Absolutely perfect for things like phone numbers that I would always have handy no matter what i was doing.

        Now I'm looking at replacing the stolen one with the Ironman Datalink -- seems to have less memory, but all the regular Ironman features that the Datalink series doesn't normally have. I only need about 50 phone numbers with me 24/7, so it's probably fine...
    • Actually, you have reason to be even less whelmed... :) The datalink has an infrared adapter for those with laptop monitors, so you can update it from any computer with a serial port...

  • my dad might actually use this (Score:3, Interesting)

    by ksheff ( 2406 ) on Saturday November 10, 2001 @12:03AM (#2547411) Homepage

    I've been trying to get my dad to use some sort of electronic organizer for years. He's stuck to a plain paper date/phone book even though pages are falling out, no one is in the right order, etc. I bought him a cheap Palm a few months ago thinking that he shouldn't have a problem getting used to graffiti and entering names and phone numbers with a stylus wouldn't be that hard.

    What does he do? He had my little sister put the contents of his planner that she could read in to the palm, but he doesn't take it when he goes on the road. He will forget a number, call home, and have someone look it up in the palm. With something like this, my sister could load up the watch for him and he would be set.

    I know what he's getting for his birthday/Father's day gift.

    • Have you considered that a paper notebook might be the _right_ solution, no matter how awkward/stone-aged it seems?
      • That is just so low tech - didn't paper notebooks go out sometime last millenium? ;-)

        I personally have ditched my watch, as my phone tells the time and I have to have it on me most of the time anyway.

        Getting a combined GSM phone plus organiser would be the next logical step. Any good ones available for the palm?

        Michael

      • It would be if he was just taking notes. That's what I use one at work for and it works just fine. The problem is that his paper phone book gets cluttered and very unorganized. He will start out with a new one and put the phone numbers and addresses of his business contacts and relatives in each alphabetical section. If one changes, he just crosses it out, and writes it someplace else where he can find room. After a while, it becomes difficult to find anything because everything's so mixed up.

        He does like the Palm and thinks it is useful, but he doesn't use it enough to get in the habit of taking it along with him. He's probably not all that thrilled about having it fall out of his pocket while he's in some guy's feedlot either (which happens occasionally with the paper one). Since he doesn't lose watches, I think this would be a good compromise product.

  • remember timex? (Score:3)

    by r ( 13067 ) on Saturday November 10, 2001 @12:07AM (#2547424)
    anyone here remember the timex datalink [timex.com]? the little guy had a motorola 6805 in it, and 48k or so of memory... in other words about as powerful as an 8-bit atari or c64, except the form factor is much more portable. :) but the really interesting feature was the solution they used to download information from the host computer - the sender program flashed info on the screen like a barcode, and the watch synchronised with the monitor's refresh rate and read the barcode with a photocell. that was quite an interesting toy. :)

    but having the pda on the wrist is really convenient. plus, if it has a similar programmable interface as the timex, and can connect to my laptop via infrared, i'll be seriously tempted...

    • the site says it has an 8-bit epson cpu in it, so it's probably as powerful as the timex watch, but just has more memory and uses IR instead of barcode. What kept me from getting the timex was that it required windows. However, if I would have known that one could program [geocities.com] the Timex, I would have bought one a long time ago. From using the little flash demo of the Fossil PDA, it looks like a slick little gadget. It's too bad they didn't use a bigger screen. A LCD the size their Philippe Stark watches would be nice.

      • Well actually, you could also use IR on the datalink. I bought a little adapter from Timex that would update the datalink via IR. The main purpose behind it was that you couldn't use the bar code feature with a laptop monitor.

        I loved that watch. Then I left it at a restaurant by accident, and of course, none of the bus boys owned up to finding it. It's funny, it had a bunch of phone number that were useful to me, but they'll never be able to use. Oh well.

        This fossil watch sounds like a great idea, I wonder why the datalink wasn't more popular.
        • Heck, I'm still wearing and loving my Ironman Timex Datalink (as they discontinued all the other lines)! However, you have to use it with Win 95/98 (or buy a seperate adapter). I keep phone numbers, Frequent Flyer numbers, important info about my partner, license plate numbers, and all that stuff. It's my 3rd datalink - I've blown through the other 2.

          And it's the one thing on me that says "Hey baby.. under this 250 pounds of purse jiggly muscle lives an Iron Man..."
    • 48K? Are you sure about that? It sounds a bit high. I've had a Datalink for years, and it's nice, but I'll be looking at this one closely.

      - There is no easy way to sync the Datalink with my Palm V
      - Syncing with NT/2000 requires tying up a serial port
      - I want more contact and schedule information than the Datalink can hold
      - The watch user interface of the Datalink leaves much to be desired

      Other posters have have poited out various "limitations" of this watch. I don't think they realize that this is meant to be a highly portable read-only extension to a PDA. The price is a bit steep, however.
  • I noticed the feature list is missing a calculator. Are there other brands (e.g. Casio) that have it beside PDA? I personally don't like PDA that you carries in pockets or bags because they're big and a bit heavy.

    I like those black plastic Casio watch (thin one) with a simple phone book, calculator, world time, alarm clock (useless to me), timer (useless), and simple scheduler. Since I am a skinny person with thin wrists, I do not want the watch to be thick and heavy. I am still using the Casio DataBank watch from 1994 or so. It still rocks, but eventually I will need to replace it.

    Thank you in advance for a reply. :)

  • It's been done. (Score:3, Informative)

    by Jucius Maximus ( 229128 ) on Saturday November 10, 2001 @12:24AM (#2547458) Journal
    Casio has had a watchws that can interface via IR with each other and with Palms for months now. Take a look [casio.com]. List Price: US$130

  • This is good???? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by pagercam2 ( 533686 ) on Saturday November 10, 2001 @12:27AM (#2547463)
    You could get a really really ugly watch for less than half the price. With a 102 x 64 screen you aren't going to get much usable info on the screen and the size and looks of the watch make it a poor choice. The Timex/MS watch from a couple of years ago looked a lot better and while only really scrolled a single line of text was usable. Some thing like the REX in my pocket and a normal watch seems like a much better deal than this. The REX 6000 from Xircom had a touch screen 512KB (IIRC) and very limited scroll to you get the letter you want input but it had a readable screen and multiple apps, if you could download apps it would have been killer, but only palm has seemed to figure that out. If the digital paper stuff from Digital Ink or Xerox ever gets out the door such that you could roll up the screen and the batteries , memory and processor fit inside a small module with the screen rapping arround I'd by one of those in a second probably as small or smaller than lipstick (or chapstick for the guys) would be really useful and probably could get 640x480, thats what I'm waiting for!!!!
    • Actually, you can download small apps for the Rex (I mentioned this earlier). Mine now has several games on it, a unit converter, a scientific calculator and a multi-stopwatch. Obviously, the complexity of the programs is limited by the fixed "slot" size the Rex allocates, but the capability is there.

      As far as digital paper is concerned, you're probably out of luck for the time being, since it's being targeted mostly towards billboards and signs. You probably don't want your pda to have 1cm pixels. Plus, even if they did make the digital paper, you'd still need to have all the electronics attached, so I doubt if you could roll it up. It might be a while until they come up with something viable.

  • Besides, what I really want is a combo phone/mp3 player/PDA watch, dammit!"

    You forgot TV receiver, camera, scanner, printer and coke-and-pizza dispenser.
  • >Besides, what I really want is a combo phone/mp3 player/PDA watch, dammit

    You forgot video cam and playback with Mpeg4 hardware chip.
  • First, it's too small to be useful as a PDA. Second, it's too big to look good on your wrist. (Not that any Fossil ever looked good.)

    Reminds me of this quote from "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy":

    "Orbiting this at a distance of roughly ninety-eight million miles is an utterly insignificant little blue-green planet whose ape-descent life forms are so amazingly primitive that they still think digital watches are a pretty neat idea."

    But at least they don't break three times in three years, like my #@$% JLC.

    • First, it's not really supposed to be a PDA. It just provides your contact list and schedule as transfered to from your real PDA.

      Second while this one isn't really my style, I take exception to your comment about fossil watches in general. I happen to like my fossil watch. It's like this one [nordstrom.com] except with a carbon fiber face.
      • I live in the middle of Texas, where everybody wears Fossils. Watches are a hobby of mine (I know it must be hard to imagine, but trust me -- there are a lot of us), and it would be nice to see a little variety on people's wrists.

        It's like being a car nut and living in a place where everybody drives Volkswagens. Not that they're bad cars, but if that's all you see you'll be bored to tears. I am a car nut too, but luckily people drive more exciting cars. :)

  • The watch sounds like something George Carlin would bring with him on a day trip while he's on vacation; a third, even smaller version of his stuff.

    It's a nice idea, it shows that they are thinking, but I can't see needing it more than my 3"x6" spiral notebook. At least with that I can input on the fly. The real downside to it is that a lot of people are going to have to buy it or these folks aren't going to make a second-generation, actually useful version of it.

  • You know, if it just ran WinCE, when it bluescreened, you could use it as a flash light.

    Too bad!
  • I would want voice input so I do not need a stylus, plus a geiger counter and a bio war detector, along with the Dick Tracy wrist radio. I can accept a high speed wireless data connect instead, of course.

    I can think of others later.


  • Timex [timex.com] has this item [timex.com]

    Only real differences are... this links up to your monitor via flashes on your screen, while the fossil links to you PDA by IR...

    AND

    the Fossil has lots more memory...

    AND

    the Timex has that INDIGLO back lite display.

  • I would rather put up with carting around my Vx than give up the daily snarfing of news with Sitescooper.

    Wristwatch-sized seems too small to read anything but minimal text.

  • Watches (Score:3, Insightful)

    by NatePWIII ( 126267 ) <nathan@wilkersonart.com> on Saturday November 10, 2001 @02:05AM (#2547653) Homepage
    If this were such a good idea then what ever became of the "TV" watches, radio watches, calculator watches etc... Heck I even had one of those cool calculator watches I won in a spelling bee in grade school. The problem here is functional size, no one has finger small enough to actually realistically operate one of these things, additionaly a PDA screen the size of a nickel would quickly destroy the 20/20 vision of most PDA users who already spend half their days straining their necks and eyes looking at glaring CRT tubes.

    This one is a dead horse, and I'm not being pessimistic.

  • on class.... (Score:1, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward
    remember, the more a watch does, the less class it has.

  • Size does matter (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Zspdude ( 531908 ) on Saturday November 10, 2001 @02:36AM (#2547690) Homepage
    Fossil's new "watch" really makes me wonder how long we will revel in gagetry like this before reality kicks in. The simple fact of the matter is, that once the "boys with toys" effect has worn off, functionality becomes an issue. To be brutally honest, wearing a computer on my wrist makes precious little sense if I can't read the screen. If I can't enter information comfortably and quickly (which I don't see happening here: it's the size of a wristwatch) then what's the use? And if transfering information on and off of it is a problem, I'm not sure how much use it really is. In PDAs, use of styluses and infrared ports have helped make convenience actually convenient, overcoming these obstacles to some extent, but in a wristwatch its simply not possible. I'll save my $145.
  • &gt Besides, what I really want is a combo phone/mp3 player/PDA watch, dammit

    It doesn't do everything, but for about $300,
    Samsung's Uproar [samsungtelecom.com] might be what you're looking for. Although it's not made to fit on your wrist.

    Unfortunately I didn't know this telephone/mp3 player/day planer existed until a week after I spent $400 on This phone from LG [lgjoyphone.com] It's a good phone, but I'd much rather have one that played mp3's for $100 less

  • Let's see here... (Score:2, Interesting)

    by ReaganBSD ( 445631 )
    I currently wear a 23-jewel Poljot chronograph made in the Russian Federation. All it does is give the time and date, as well as providing me with a built-in two button stopwatch and tachymeter. True, it has to be wound up daily, but what the hell--it's very precise and reliable.

    It's time to ask yourselves--do you really NEED all this hi-tech stuff? A watch is to tell time, nothing more. Get over it.
  • A companion for a companion for the PC! Just what the world needs!
  • Check out

    http://www.onhandpc.com

    I would like to get one of these if it wasn't so damn expensive!!

    US $299, ie AUS$600+

    That is some friggin dough for a cool watch....
    I wonder if they'll swap it for a family member.

  • why can't they (Score:2, Interesting)

    by cowtamer ( 311087 )
    just have something like Casio's databank watches with an added IR link.

    I know the sentiment has been echoed here before, but I own CASIO's PC-Unite, which syncs with the PC via an infrared connection. Since it does not have a keypad, it's [almost] utterly useless for entering stuff on the fly.

    Are the marketing people at CASIO and Fossil so dense that they do not see the need for a databank/PDA type of watch with an IR link AND a keypad???
  • It seems that the unit itself is not running PalmOS or Windows CE, you can just transfer data from a PDA to it. And the 190K of RAM are miniscule. IIRC, Microsoft promoted such a gadget a few years ago. It even didn't need infrared data transfer, you could use your PC monitor.

    (BTW, the browser check on the Fossil web site fails for me. Sigh.)
  • This is what I'm ordering today:

    An Ericsson T39 mobile phone, a Ericsson HBH-15 cordless handsfree, and a TDK blue5 bluetooth enabler for my Palm VX.

    All of the devices are bluetooth enabled. I'll carry my phone in my backpack, or wherever, make my calls using voicedial on my bluetooth cordless handsfree that fits on my ear. I will also be able to surf the net, wap, pop, imap using my palm and the TDK Blue5 card and my phone which has GPRS support. My phone company Tele2 Sweden allows me to use GPRS as much as I want until may next year.

    I believe that we will have seperate devices for a long time to come, they will all communicate using bluetooth. Cut the cords, don't mold it all together.

    http://www.sonyericssonmobile.com/T39/

    http://www.sonyericssonmobile.com/se/spg.jsp?pag e= start&Redir=template%3DPS1%26B%3Die%26PID%3D9870%2 6LM%3DPSM_V

    http://www.tdksys.com/blue5/index.html

    http://www.ericsson.com/3g/how/gprs.shtml

  • "Besides, what I really want is a combo phone/mp3 player/PDA watch, dammit!"

    With all of the radioactive interference fromt aht kind of device might as well build in a mini microwave.
  • I appreciate the use of an 8-bit CPU for conserving power in such a device.

    However, it is quite chunky. This could be obviated by the use of an OLED display once they are cheap enough to use. These use less power, and will be usable in the dark.

    A flip-up screen cover could reveal a touch-sensitive screen area, ideal for simple apps like a calculator or simple game. The format of this device means that more advanced applications are not feasible.

    What would be sensible would be for this device to become part of a cell-phone. The display is the same size, the cell-phone has a bigger battery and faster CPU, and more memory as well. The device could sync your cell-phone data with your PDA/Desktop. The cellphone will have an IR link built-into it, or bluetooth next year.

    In fact, this could be a good thing for "low-end" cell-phones (i.e., not PocketPC/Symbian ones) to incorporate into them. It would give them a market differentiation for not much cost. And leave your wrist free for teling the time. And a cell phone has buttons and all that on it, making applications much more accessible.

    • The Nokia 3300 series, which is what Cingular and AT&T Wireless are trying to shove down your throat as their new entry-level phone does have an IR port on it so you can beam contacts to it from your PDA. It also includes a built-in cellular modem that communicates with your laptop or PDA through the IR port. It's no Bluetooth, but it's still very nice.
  • As I look down at my left wrist, I see a large onHand PC [onhandpc.com] looking back at me. 2 MB of memory, all kinds of PIM goodies and games, and it syncs up with my PC. Battery life is better than what is promised for the Fossil. My wife bought it for me two years ago. It's the US version of the Japanese Ruputer, which is almost four years old. So tell me again how this 8-bit wonder from Fossil can possibly be considered "News?"

    Prior to the onHand, I wore a Casio Databank. [casio.com] I like the little keys and the availability of the instant calculator. It makes short work of the usual arguments around the restaurant table.

    My ideal watch would combine the ease of calculator input and battery life of the Casio with the Calendar/Phonebook/Notepad features of the onHand. While I'm dreaming, I'd like a built-in cell phone and a date with Sarah Alexander...

    Truth is stranger than fiction: According to the CIA World Factbook, the Taliban flag is plain white.
  • does anyone know of a portable cd player that reads mp3,cdda, and vorbis? I have a music superman mp-2000, which does cdda and mp3, but I'm looking for something that will do vorbis as well... If possible, also looking for high capacity disc capability as well.
  • when i bought my 5th fossil watch and it too broke within 3 months like all the other ones, they suck...

    If you are gonna buy a watch, go with a better brand or just do like i do... either have so many gadgets that have the time on them i dont need a watch, or ask someone.

    everyone asks me how i can get along without a watch, and i just tell them to look around there is always something telling you the time within 100 feet of where you are

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