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GeForce3 Titanium Reviews 279

Paladin128 sent us Tom's and Anandtech's respective reviews of the new NVIDIA GeForce3 Titanium series. DX8.1 compatibility (What is that anyway?), Shadow Buffers, 3D Textures, assorted other stuffs. Hey, but why is everything 'Titanium' now anyway? Laptops. Batteries. Video cards. I wonder if I can get titanium plating.
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GeForce3 Titanium Reviews

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  • hey.. (Score:3, Funny)

    by PopeAlien ( 164869 ) on Tuesday October 02, 2001 @10:21AM (#2378298) Homepage Journal
    Hey, but why is everything 'Titanium' now anyway?

    Well, at least its not E-Titanium or iTanium..
    • Re:hey.. (Score:4, Funny)

      by blazin ( 119416 ) on Tuesday October 02, 2001 @10:24AM (#2378320) Homepage Journal
      And since Titanium cards are now the next better things past Platinum cards, to quote a Busta' Rhymes song:

      "I'm so rich, I got ridda' all my platimun cards, and I got me a Uranium card..."
    • Yeah, iTanium sounds like something Intel would invent
    • Doesn't Oakley use iTanium? Beat's iTi, which could be offensive to some ;) And unobtanium has to be my favourite, another Oakley great.... I'd check all this out but their site is always so damned slow!
    • I'm actually surprised that more companies aren't making stuff out of unobtanium. This is a very strong and light weight element but I hear that its hard to get a hold of some.

      Darren
    • E-Titanium? Reminds me of the fliers littering the street outside my home.

      paraphrased:

      have a pc? do you want to make money fast? for more information on our pyramid scheme contact us at eonlinework-dom

      What kind of online "work" is not electronic?

      Titanium is merely the next step in the progression of products from

      [name]
      [name]-plus
      [name]-gold
      [name]-platinum
      [name]-platinum-plus
      [name]-95
      [name]-98
      [name]-2000
      [name]-millenium
      [name]-titanium edition
  • Just remember, replacing your skeleton with titanium bones would add about 25kg to your weight, so go to the weight room for a few weeks and you'll be fine.

    Now if you can find someone who will do the surgery, let me know.
  • by Mr.Phil ( 128836 ) on Tuesday October 02, 2001 @10:22AM (#2378310)
    Dell is featuring these on the Dimension 8200 series as an upgrade from the default GeForce2 MX cards.
  • To answer your question:

    Titanium implies that it's strong and modern. Titanium is stronger than steel, yet roughly half the weight.

    It's all about the marketing. There's even Titanium credit cards, too.
  • Seems that every time we turn around, nvidia has a new chipset... I wonder if any company (I.E. ATI will ever catch up. I also wonder if they aren't just putting a lot of products on the market to cover all bases. It would make sense.

    I also think it's what Linux should do, and drive home to IT PHBs.

    I live for the day when the question isn't "Linux or NT?" but "Which distro of Linux?"

    ok...off my soapbox.

    JoeLinux
    • Re:dude... (Score:2, Interesting)

      by Anonymous Coward
      ATI has caught up.

      The Radeon 8500 is about to be released, and its got better hardware specs than any nVidia card. Check out Anandtech and look. Toms has a preview also I believe.

      It's hardware is better, but the drivers are restricting it from performing to its potential. Once that is worked out, it will outperform the Geforce3 ti 500.
      • Re:dude... (Score:3, Insightful)

        by ergo98 ( 9391 )

        It's hardware is better, but the drivers are restricting it from performing to its potential. Once that is worked out, it will outperform the Geforce3 ti 500.

        Sure it will...Seriously that particular sales technique of "oh it's just the drivers, but once they're sorted out it'll kick ass!" is absolute rubbish and should be treated as such. ATI has a horrendous reputation for drivers and it is, IMHO, a very deserved reputation: I'm certainly not going to buy anything on the premise that THAT company is going to improve their drivers. Another "funny" thing they do is orphaning products frequently: "Oh you want drivers for Windows XP? Sorry, you'll have to upgrade to our new product line." nvidia has set new standards in continuing to upgrade and improve drivers for long existing products and I give them great accolades for that.

        So in closing ATIs theoretical performance means absolutely nothing if it isn't delivered and in the public's hands (what was that S3 card with fantastic T&L that never actually had drivers delivered that enabled it? Yet there were S3 pimps out there talking up the hypotheticals fo this super duper T&L engine). The fact that AnandTech pimped the 8500 using the driver excuse on page after page after page was absolutely despicable.

        As a contrast, nvidia stays quiet about drivers and delivers what they deliver despite the fact that they actually do improve performance with each driver release. Hell someone with a GeForce 1 is still reaping performance improvements upgrading to the new Detonator XP drivers.

    • " Seems that every time we turn around, nvidia has a new chipset... "

      There's really very little interesting here. Some minor tweaks to existing chips and upping the speed of the core and memory. Moreover, it's not every time we turn around, it's every 6 months a new graphics product is put out. That's their cycle, they stick to it.
  • DX8.1 refers to DirectX 8.1 [microsoft.com]

    Lame filler to avoid lame filter
  • why do they do this? atleast wait like a year before bringing out the next best thing. i just picked up a geforce 3 64mb ddr asus v8200 deluxe which i thought was top of the line. now, its these new video cards.

    besides the fact that companies will get more money with new products every 6 months, why do they not offer a rebate or upgrade to the newest product???

    • If you read the reviews, your card is still top of the line. The only faster is the ti500 or whatever, which is 5-7% faster. Don't get upset... they're just repackaging the same card. Why innovate, when you can market it?
    • all you need to do is overclock the memory and processor core a little bit. Should be fairly easy to do, and with very little risk. Check out VoodooFiles [voodoofiles.com] for some custom detonator drivers, or for overclocking utilities.
    • Your card is still faster than all the new cards except the GeForce3 Ti500 and has all the same features. Also, NVidia always comes out with new products every 6 months so just live with it. If you are going to worry about money then why are you buying the top of the line stuff? It's called the bleeding edge for a reason, if you stay on the edge you'll be bleeding green! (Just like Spock!)
    • I finally broke down and bought a GeForce3 to replace my old 2-GTS. (Got the exact same card as you, as an aside.)

      Received and installed the card Thursday night, heard about the new cards Friday afternoon.

      (Granted I can get comparable speeds just by overclocking it a bit, but it's the principle of the thing.)

      .sigh.
    • The GeForce3 Ti500 is just a Geforce3 running at higher clockspeed (core and memory) due to a smaller lithography process. Functionally, the new chip is identical to the old one. This is NOT a next-gen product, merely what's known as the "fall refresh" of an existing product line.
      Same thing happened with TNT2, TNT2 Ultra, original Geforce, etc. They could've called this the Geforce3 Ultra but marketing decided otherwise. The performance difference compared to a regular GF3 is not that big, no sense in upgrading if you already have one.

      There are no new features that the Titanium cards offer that can't be done on the older GF3's.
      Just go to nVidia's site and download the DetonatorXP drivers (they picked up the XP moniker too... ugh) and you'll get all those fancy "new" features touted in the Titanium press releases. Those drivers are also considerably faster anyway, on older GF3's.

      The next-gen product will be out next spring (assuming they don't break the 6-month cycle) and will probably have multiple geometry units like the XBox, even faster clock speeds, and some new hardware rendering features. Next spring's product will probably be nVidia's first hardware that uses some of 3dfx's tech, hopefully 3dfx's anti-aliasing which was the best around IMO.

    • why do they do this?

      Just so that idiots like you keep buying the latest and greatest.

  • And I just spent $650 on my Geforce 3 two weeks ago... Who can afford to buy these cards??? This is almost like the windows ME of the video card market... I'm waiting for the Geforce 4 to come out before I upgrade again...
  • HardOCP has quite a nice review and explanation of just what is different with the Titanium compared to normal Geforce 3 cards running the ExploderXP driver set.

    http://www.hardocp.com/reviews/vidcards/nvidia/g f3 ti500/

  • Shadow buffers (Score:4, Interesting)

    by The Ultimate Badass ( 450974 ) on Tuesday October 02, 2001 @10:28AM (#2378349) Homepage
    This is an excellent addition, and very much needed. Shadows can be one of the hardest thingsto get looking good in OpenGL, and usually they are done in a hacked out, unsatistfactory sort of way, sometimes just by copying the model, setting all textures to black and using shear and scale transforms to squish the model onto the floor. This will hopefully do a much better job.

    As for titanium plating -- you don't want it, trust me. It scratches and stains far too easily, and you can't clean it when it does. Looks good when it's undamaged, though.
    • Re:Shadow buffers (Score:2, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward
      The problem is that the regular Geforce3 already has shadow buffers! You just couldn't use them until the new XP line of drivers came out!

      So these new cards technically have 0 things different from them than the old cards - they are just shipping with newer drivers. If you get the XP drivers for the old Geforce3 it will enable the shadow buffers.

      Try reading some of the reviews before you post.

      Derek

  • If you go to Pricewatch [pricewatch.com] and look under videocards/GeForce 3 there are already several place selling the 200 versions. Heck this place on Yahoo Stores [yahoo.com] is taking preorders for the Hercules GeForce3 Titanium 500 to ship on Oct 13! Talk about fast turnaround. Guess they had to step up or let the Radeon 8500 [ati.com] be king.

    Wonder which one will ship a Mac version first?
  • Overclocked GF3 (Score:5, Informative)

    by [amorphis] ( 45762 ) on Tuesday October 02, 2001 @10:30AM (#2378364)
    The Geforce Ti 500 is just an overclocked Geforce 3.

    Looking at Anand's Geforce 3 roundup [anandtech.com], all of the cards tested overclocked to the performance level of the GF Ti 500. Generally, the core speed was lower, but the memory was faster.
  • Actually, Mr. Rob, I do know a guy who sells titanium for plating large things al la the Bilbao Guggenheim [guggenheim-bilbao.es]. I did some consulting for said guy, a retired professor of architecture, several years ago. IIRC he was reselling products of TIMET [timet.com], the Titanium Metals Corporation.

    From what I remember, plated with Titanium you'd be able to survive 100 years of life in some large far-east city like Kuala Lumpur [google.com] without corroding.

    Which is exactly what we need from you. Really.
  • Naming a tennis racquet, racquetball racquet, computer, video card, whatever "Titanium" makes a little sense despite the fact that most (all?) don't have an atom of titanium in them. What gets me is the "Titanium Racquetballs" they're selling now. Excuse me? Racquetballs are made of _rubber_ so they _bounce_. No one wants a metal racquetball! Who hires these marketing droids anyway?
  • by Ghengis ( 73865 ) <SLowLaRIS@xNIX.RuTOKYOles minus city> on Tuesday October 02, 2001 @10:31AM (#2378371) Homepage Journal
    Now I LOVE my video card, and it runs every game i want to as quickly as i want, so I won't be getting this anytime soon... I'd rather skip several cards and spend the money on a cool trip or a cruise. If everyone would resist the temptation to have the latest and greatest, then maybe they wouldn't release new stuff every other day. Then maybe that $600 card you just bought would be obsolete in a month. I know this will never happen, so i guess i'm just talking to a wall again...
  • As you all will notice once you read Toms interesting review [tomshardware.com] there is not much new in the Titanium version of Geforce3 except a better price/performance ratio. All the added functionality is already available in current GeForce3 boards once you download the new driver.

    Maybe now I will buy a Geforce3 TI200 instead of the Geforce2 Pro that I was planning on.

    --
    Keep your hats on. It's only money.

  • Dunno, but I am proud to be part of the new Titanium Elite. I had one of my teeth replaced with a titanium implant. The Doctor said it was an "upgrade".
    Now, if someone annoys me, I simply bite.
  • Yeah but... (Score:1, Flamebait)

    by Greyfox ( 87712 )
    Can I get a Linux driver for it? Not really much point in upgrading from the old Matrox G400Max if I can't. Everyone (even Matrox) has appeared to move toward less open drivers, so I am also concerned that the company I go with will orphan the Linux drivers and render me unable to use the video card in the 2.8/3.0 kernel timeframe.
    • Re:Yeah but... (Score:3, Informative)

      by turbine216 ( 458014 )
      here it is, directly from Nvidia's website...the cards supported under linux...


      TNT

      TNT2/TNT2 Pro

      TNT2 Ultra

      TNT2 M64/M64 Pro

      Vanta/Vanta LT

      Aladdin TNT2

      GeForce 256

      GeForce2 Pro

      GeForce2 GTS

      GeForce2 MX/MX 400/MX 200/MX 100

      GeForce2 Ultra

      GeForce3

      Quadro

      Quadro DCC

      Quadro2 MXR

      Quadro2 Pro

      Quadro2 EX

      I'm sure that if there's an xFree86 driver for the GeForce3, then the new versions will have equal support from the manufacturer. NVidia, surprisingly enough, has always been pretty good about releasing really nice xFree86 drivers for their cards.

      • Well, just tell me where I can get the sources for thoses drivers ... AFAIK, NVidia provides binary-only drivers.

        seb.
        • Re:Yeah but... (Score:4, Insightful)

          by turbine216 ( 458014 ) <turbine216.gmail@com> on Tuesday October 02, 2001 @11:10AM (#2378526)
          Nvidia only provides one generic open-source driver for xFree86, which supports full 2D acceleration, and supports OpenGL 1.2. From an interview last year with nvidia's Nick Triantos:


          "Basically, NVIDIA's drivers cannot be open sourced. They contain several components which are licensed technology, and we have no rights to share that source code with anyone. We do not even provide source code to OpenGL or our kernel module to our board customers"


          seems like a reasonable explanation to me. (Interview from theDukeofURL.org [thedukeofurl.org].

          • Open GL support for the open source driver is lacking. It's only available in XFree86 3.3.6, and renders extremely poorly. If Nvidia drops linux support, your card wont be usless, they seem to be providing information on 2d support for the XFree86 developers. You just wont be getting 3d ( which by the time 2.8 comes out will be rather slow anyways)
    • Yes you can get a linux driver for almost all Nvidia cards. In fact it's one driver for all of them, so hardware upgrades don't require a new driver. You can get them from the Nvidia website or they come with some distros anymore (Mandrake for sure).

    • " Can I get a Linux driver for it?"

      Nividia is good about having all their graphics products use the same driver.
  • by dstone ( 191334 ) on Tuesday October 02, 2001 @10:36AM (#2378397) Homepage
    Go here for tasty tidbits on everbody's favorite element and its alloys...

    [titanium.org][titanium.org] [titanium.org][titanium.org]

    Here are some strength-to-weight stats [titanium.org], specifically.
  • GeForce has always made good cards, but everyone has gotta love the "ATI Radeon 8500" link located directly over the review... you know, the one that says "The most !#X*! amazing 3D gaming experience" just incase you wanted to look at a different video card. I must say I've always stuck with ATI but Geforce is making my head turn a bit towards them...
  • Geforce 4 announced,

    Featuring 28gigaflops, processing 2 billion antialiased pixels per second, 1000 voxels per seconds, support for surround video and all.

    Nice!, no games supports geforce 3 to it's best right now :)

    But serously, it's nice seeing the technology being pushed foward at a crazy pace like that, but the amount of data to assimilate for all the new stuff being shoved up at the programmers every 6 months is crazy... and you have to keep in mind that they gave a GAME to program, not only a technological demo. if there were 1000 carmack in the game community, I bet we would see stuff comming out a bit faster (imagine a beowulf clusters of Carmacks :) ) but the reality is, the engine/3d is a part, the game itself is the other part, and even if there are 50 programmers working on a project, it's not 50 programmers working on incorporating the newer technologies and figuring out all the new twists and tricks to do with stuff like the pixel shader.

    It's exiting, but at the same time I'd feel a bit overwhelmed with working on a board or featureset and seeing it being crushed by something better even before I finish polishing the code on my current project :)

  • Yeah, I want my Dell Lattitude XP Titanium 2002 Enhanced modbile with SuperStealth technology!
  • by Uttles ( 324447 ) <uttles.gmail@com> on Tuesday October 02, 2001 @10:39AM (#2378413) Homepage Journal
    Remember when the Big Bertha Titanium driver came out? It was a sensation, everybody bought one, then all of the sudden everything golf related was "titanium." Titanium core balls, titanium putters, titanium umbrellas... it just didn't stop. Of course they never sold anything useful like titanium golf spikes, but hey that's marketing. So now I guess it's spread over to computers and probably everything else. Hell I even got a credit card advertisement for a Titanium Visa. That doesn't really make sense to me, I mean I get the Silver, Gold, Platinum - precious metals that are rare and valuable, but Titanium is widely available, more renowned for it's strength than value...

    Anyway, I'm sure this video card is really great but I have to admit calling it "Titanium" lowers my level of interest in buying it. It's like if I tried to sell you a "Titanium" watermelon... doesn't really make sense.
    • It certainly appears that Titanium is the next marketing gimmick metal, to imply the product is another level of value above the old. As mentioned, silver, gold, platinum and now titanium credit cards. I certainly hope they're not using titanium for the connectors to the motherboard slot. Gold is probably the most oxidation resistant metal on the planet, and it conducts much better that Titanium.

      What's ironic is that Titanium is much less in value per ounce than silver. If you wanted to suggest a metal in value above platinum, you'd have to say Rhodium, Palladium, Irridium or Rhenium. But who's going to say they've got the newest in purchasing power with a "Rhodium" credit card. If you really want the next level in metal worth far more than platinum, flash out your "Plutonium" credit card.

      As another view of how cheap Titanium is, you can buy Titanium crowbars from the old Soviet Union munitions factories now trying to privatize to make consumer products. They've got so much titanium lying around that they'll make just about anything out of it.
  • I mean first here was silver, then gold, then platinum.....I think they are going to create a new element/metal pretty soon!
    • I mean first here was silver, then gold, then platinum.....I think they are going to create a new element/metal pretty soon!

      The next card up from Platinum is Black [americanexpress.com] from American Express. Available by invitation only to existing Platinum cardholders (which themselves are only available by invitation from Green or Gold).

      Someday...
  • re: I wonder if I can get titanium plating.

    I bet you will get the titanium pricing though!
  • The titanium series of cards is basically the same, except a slight increase in speed for the Ti500 and a less expensive manufacturing process (more efficient).

    They will be cheaper.

  • by smaughster ( 227985 ) on Tuesday October 02, 2001 @10:46AM (#2378452)
    Of course, the next series of credit cards are Uranium. A small green card with glow-in-the-dark feature, and if you every lose one, just use a Geiger teller.
  • The answer is simple: because Steve Jobs said so.

    You think I'm kidding? Look at marketing trends. Apple released the iMac line in multiple colors, and then we immediately saw Irons, staplers, Nintendo 64, and Compaq PC's out, in all the same colors. Now, Apple has released the Titanium Powerbook: software, hardware, everything is now "Titanium.

    I've received three offers for Titanium Visa cards so far. If the cards were actually made of titanium, I might actually get one...
  • Why not adamantium? everybody knows that adamantium is the most strongest metal of all. And why mega, why not tera instead. Terastore sounds pretty cool for me.

    hopey
  • by Animats ( 122034 ) on Tuesday October 02, 2001 @11:01AM (#2378482) Homepage
    The real news is that the entry-level GeForce 3 is now $199. The new high-end board isn't that much faster, and has exactly the same capabilities as the original GeForce 3. NVidia didn't put in more RAM, which was the expected next step.

    John Carmack said, when the GEForce 3 came out, that developers should get one immediately, but gamers should wait. This new one is the "consumer product" version.

    Remember that the GEForce 3 is the graphics engine in the XBox. So when the XBox games start shipping for the Xmas season, the PC versions will use GEForce 3 features. I'm looking forward to seeing somebody do something good with the vertex shaders. I have the Chameleon demo and a GeForce 3, so I can see what's possible.

  • http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/10/08/023023 8&mode=thread
  • I mistrust those little fans you get on graphics cards and used to get on CPUs, because I've had a few die on me (or people I work with), which can also take out the chip. The Titanium 200 shown on THG just has a heatsink like ny trusty Creative TNT, no fan, less to go wrong. I suppose whoever buys the state of the art to keep up with the Joneses doesn't care if the board blows up after a year, but I do.

  • by dohcvtec ( 461026 ) on Tuesday October 02, 2001 @11:15AM (#2378544)
    I guess it all started with the SR-71 Blackbird. A large proportion of that aircraft was titanium to withstand the heat of high-speed flight while being strong and light. Next, titanium bicycles (road as well as mountain.) Anybody could make a strong bike out of steel, but weight was always an issue. Titanium-tubed bikes were much lighter than steel bikes, although not as durable. On a side note, I had my wedding band turned on a lathe out of round titanium stock. Among engineers, titanium is cool stuff, so why would I want a gold or platinum ring like all the non-geeks? Before you know it, there's titanium golf clubs, rackets, you name it. I think the more of a buzzword titanium became, the more inappropriate uses it gained. Now we have things named titanium for no good reason at all (although the marketers would disagree.) Sooner or later, all the Joe Schmoes will forget about titanium and it will go back to being cool only for engineers and geeks. My guess is the next buzzword is iridium - uranium has too much of an image problem.
  • Doh! [geocities.com].

    Nice ad placement, ATI. I know it's random, but there's got to be settings somewhere to avoid such things.

  • .. didn't Wolverine have a 'Titanium' skeleton ...

    Actually I think that Titanium is supposed to be the strongest metal...

  • Marketing. Ugh. (Score:3, Interesting)

    by megaduck ( 250895 ) <dvarvel@NOspaM.hotmail.com> on Tuesday October 02, 2001 @12:13PM (#2378764) Journal

    While the GeForce3 is a pretty sweet card, I find the new marketing tactics of NVidia distasteful. The GeForce3 Ti-200 and GeForce2 Ti are actually slower cards [tomshardware.com][tomshardware.com] gussied up with new drivers and a new name. Not only that, but they timed the release [tomshardware.com] [tomshardware.com] of their new Detonator XP drivers to spoil the release of the Radeon 8500.

    I know that "business is war" and all that, but it still leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

  • Terminology (Score:3, Funny)

    by Animats ( 122034 ) on Tuesday October 02, 2001 @12:19PM (#2378783) Homepage
    What's been done?
    • Turbo Been there, done that.
    • Silver Seems tacky today.
    • Gold Overused by everybody.
    • Platinum Overused by credit card issuers.
    • Titanium Getting tired.
    • Iridium The Edsel of cellular.
    • Carbon Not wide enough appeal.
    • Graphite Too '90s.
    • Dilithium See Bob Asprin's "Phule" series.
    • Quartz Dated.
    • Power It's been done.
    • TNT In use.
    • Detonator In use by NVidia.
    • Slayer Buffy has this one.
    • Killer Too general.
    • Rage In use by ATI.
    • X-anything Overused.
    • Accelerated A bit old.
    • Express Too retro.
    • Atomic Dated.
    • Radio Even more dated.
    • Streamliner We're back to the 1920s now.
    • Electric Still more dated.

    What now? Retro names? Something like the "NVidia Locomotive"? Nah. Probably coined words and numbers again.

    • You want overdone? How about "Extreme?"
      I knew things got bad when I went to Taco Bell and ordered the "Extreme Number Two Combo."
  • I got a deal on a GF3 to replace my GF2. So far I haven't found a thing that takes advantage of it. No way I'd upgrade from a GF2 at this point for normal price.

    I think the vid card companies are running in to a major problem. Games aren't keeping up with hardware. Developers have a much longer development time than the hardware companies do.
  • Why's everything titanium these days? Because chumps are impressed. Welcome to Madison Avenue.

    Things about titanium I've noticed:

    The "titanium" notebooks I looked at in Best Buys had such thin casings that I could easily deform the LCD screen with finger pressure on the top of the lid. They were the least durable laptops I've seen recently.

    A lot of titanium (the metal, not Tio2 the pigment) is produced under brutal, slave-like working conditions in third-world countries. Participating in the titanium trade is thus contributing to the bankrolls of The Opressors [tm] unless you are certain of provenance.

    Titanium is an AWESOME thermal conductor. Some of the Thiokol guys split a titanium rocket motor case in half and made a barbecue out of it; the damn thing radiated heat so fiercely it was essentially unusable.

    --Charlie
  • Hey, but why is everything 'Titanium' now anyway? Laptops. Batteries. Video cards. I wonder if I can get titanium plating.

    No, but if you act now, you can afford all that and more with our new new low-APR, no monthly fee titanium **click** hello? hello sir?

    just say no to credit
  • Hey, but why is everything 'Titanium' now anyway?

    Get used to it. Titanium may surplant Aluminum and Steel for many uses. I've read this many times and seen many articles about how we are now entering into a Titanium Age.

    In fact, Slashdot [slashdot.org] wrote about it nearly a year ago!
  • GeForce 3 Ti 200 (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Wolfier ( 94144 ) on Tuesday October 02, 2001 @03:04PM (#2380032)
    Does anyone see that???

    NO FAN !!!!

    That's why my video cards so far have been Voodoo3 2000 and Asus GeForce 2MX.

    No fans. For the peace of mind. For the lack of the ugly wire. For _real_ advances from 0.18 to 0.15 microns, not just overclock-it-bruteforce-and-do-some-cooldown-patch work.

    Good job! I'm looking forward to seeing faster no-fan video cards.
  • Quoting John Carmack's post [slashdot.org]:
    DX8's hardware independence is also looking a bit silly now as they make point releases to support ATI's new hardware. They might as well say D3D-GF3 or D3D-R200 instead of DX8 and DX8.1.
    So, I guess, DX8.1 compatibility for GF3 Titanium means exactly nothing, just marketing buzzword.

    -jfedor
  • DX8.1 compatibility (What is that anyway?)

    That would be DirectX [microsoft.com] 8.1.
  • For the same reason everything was translucent fruit-colored plastic two years ago. I'd say it's pretty damned obvious.

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