Building a DIY Home Office? 247
Rednerd asks: "I just moved into a new apartment and I'm almost done painting and running the cat 5. I have been looking at office furniture for a new desk to become the new home for all of my misc. computer gadgetry, but I haven't been able to find anything that really fits. (No one seems to sell a desk with room for two 19" monitors, seven computers, a beer fridge, coffee maker, and a small compartment to serve as a shrine for my little plush penguin - Potelé) I'm leaning toward building a custom desk for my computers. With all the talk on Slashdot about creating an ultra-efficient cubicle, I was wondering what other slashdotters have created in the way of DIY home offices?"
IKEA? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:IKEA? (Score:1)
Grab two full-sized desks to use as the edges (like the sides of the U shape - you'll be in the middle), and convert a large table to use as the main part. The table should be good enough to hold the beer-fridge near the corner where it won't get in the way of your legs. Create shelving under the other corner for the PC bases, and make sure you create some pretty big channels for the cables to run through, as there's bound to be a shitload of cabling.
One monitor on the top of each corned piece, keyboard, mouse, porn etc. inbetween the monitors, and you've got the side desks for your coffee and everything.
Re:IKEA? (Score:3, Informative)
A cheaper, better alternative (if "looks" aren't important) is either plywood sheets or door blanks set on filing cabinets. Buy veneered plywood (oak or cherry) and it'll look as good as anything IKEA ever sold.
For a sleek modern look, buy some old steel filing cabinets from a used office supply place and strip the paint off of them until they're a nice brushed steel.
Re:IKEA? (Score:2)
Agreed. My solution was to build my own desks using decent wood, and some table legs from Ikea (£9 for four, yet sturdy enough to support all the weight I need). I was lucky with the wood, in that my girlfriend's company were throwing out their old desks, having just bought new ones (her company in turn having acquired them from SCO -- hey, my desk is a piece of Unix history
Re:IKEA? (Score:1)
I'll second this. My last employer used IKEA furniture in the office, and it sucked. It was seriously rickety.
If I were using plywood, I'd want to build bracing. Once, I built a workbench 42" high with a 3/4" plywood surface. 3/4 ply will bend, but I ran a 2x4 all the way around it, and supported it on 4x4s, with 2x4s bracing the legs. I'm over 300 lbs, and I could walk around on this table, which was one of my goals in building it. Don't ask. :)
Then finish them with some sort of sealer which will stick to metal, or they'll rust, unless that's the look you're going for...
Re:IKEA? (Score:2)
Re:IKEA? (Score:2)
We're talking about building utilitarian furniture here, not submarine hulls.
Stuff that's basically wood that's been ground up and glued together tends to puff up when it gets too wet, which is mostly an appearance problem, but "real wood", in addition to costing more and requiring more time and care in selection in the first place, often reacts to too much exposure to moisture by moving away from straight and flat--it warps. It also expands and contracts to a greater degree with normal changes in humidity.
Don't get me wrong, I like "real wood", mostly for its looks, although sometimes for its workability (its more fun to plane wood than belt sand the manufactured stuff), but if you're going to slap paint or laminate on it, and you want it to retain its original size and shape as much as possible, one of the "manufactured" products may very well be your best combination of price and performance.
IKEA !!! (Score:1)
One tip : put 30 cm between the wall and the furniture - first you can go behind to setup the wiring, and you have more space for your monitors.
Use a Door. (Score:1)
Re:Use a Door. (Score:1)
Re:Use a Door. (Score:1)
been done (Score:2, Interesting)
jet powered beer cooler [slashdot.org]
that famous coffee machine [slashdot.org]
keep a browser window open to check on the coffee, and keep the thing in your kitchen. when you don't hear the jet engine blaring anymore, you know your beer is good and cold. stick a few brats behind the exhaust, and pitch your bbq
as for the monitors
My dream Home Office (Score:1, Interesting)
And I would like a laptop that boots from the (wireless) network and has no noisy harddisk. I guess this is doable by running Linux on it...
Regards,
Xenna (stuck in a noisy room with cluttered cables)
Shelving (Score:2, Insightful)
The art of underclocking (Score:1, Interesting)
Building a "terminal" computer with an underclocked CPU, heavily padded case and a quiet power source with its fan possibly disabled. Then lock all the noisy computers in another room.
build one with a friend (Score:4, Insightful)
A friend and I designed and built a new desk when I moved to fit the room and my gear perfectly. (Well, my friend did most of the work) It's doable. And it turned out to be a LOT cheaper than the suitable desks I found out there.
If you DO want to buy a ready-made desk, don't look in furniture stores, they just sell kiddy stuff, and desks for people that need a place for their electric typewriter. Go look at companies that sell to other companies. They're usually more difficult to find, even though they often have a showroom (though just not visible from the outside) and sell to regular people. They're insanely expensive though. But, if you really want ready-made, they'll usually have something that fits.
The cool thing about making your own desk is not only that your desk gets to be BIG, but you also get to choose the materials and colors.
The downside about making your own desk is that it's too difficult to make a desk that has adjustable height, so you have to be REALLY sure how high your surface needs to be (mine is 2 cm too high).
If you are going to make your own desk, make it deep enough. Commercial desks usually are too shallow to place a keyboard in front of your monitor and still be able to rest your elbows in a comfortable manner.
adjustable height (Score:2)
Re:build one with a friend (Score:4, Funny)
Start Measuring and Drawing (Score:1)
Metro Shelving...Bakers' Racks (Score:5, Interesting)
i use the wide shelves, 24" (and 8 or 10 feet long) for the monitors, and use the narrow (around 8-10"wide) to create a keyboard shelf right in front/below the wider "top"....
you can adjust the height on those legs, with those nylon bushings and i've put a ton of weight on these things (well, about 600-800#'s) and not had much deflection...(though the center of percussion was really high..took about 200# off)
the downsides include having to put "trays" for your pens, smoking materials, etc...as they would otherwise just drop through the wires and if you are one of those folk who rest their wrists on the desktop edge...WELL, a couple of hours of that will teach you about numbness and pain...if you use a contoured KB or wrist rest..nada problemo...
it looks kinda HiTek...and you really can find the stuff just about anywhere, its reasonably priced (IKEA's is the cheapest but they don't have a very big selection of sizes) and if you really HATE the chrome...it's available in a semi-dull/shiny BLACL finish...Blood, Bath and Beyond has a really ***nice*** brand of this stuff, but it's kinda pricey
i equipped an office with about 12-15 of these "desks"...got lots of compliments from customer/visitors and only checked it out for the same reason you mention...all of our employees had at least 3 monitors per desktop and we just couldn't find a nice-looking, cost-effective solution...
i thinks it's medium cool looking, but, as always, should you or any of your..., i mean, YMMV...
Re:Metro Shelving...Bakers' Racks (Score:3, Insightful)
-dan
Re:Metro Shelving...Bakers' Racks (Score:1)
If I would redo it again I would play with a wireless network so that I can use a laptop from my balconi.
Re:Metro Shelving...Bakers' Racks (Score:1)
I got a large pine TV cabinet from IKEA and put all the hardware in it (four PC cases, UPS, hubs and laptop dock). I then have two small pine tables next to it with monitors/mice/keyboards on them and KVM switches to control multiple machines. Heat can be an issue if you don't have air conditioning -- I had to remove the back panel and put it near an outside window, and the machines are decased inside the cabinet.
Now if only there were a wireless KVM option.... Of course if I had wireless KVM I'd just put all the hardware in the garage where I can't hear the fans.
Re:Metro Shelving...Bakers' Racks (Score:1)
5 foot poles five wire shelves 14 x 36, one
of them is mounted only on the front two
poles creating a work surface, and a kvm
switch so that while there are two monitors,
there's only one keyboard and mouse. an older
picture of it is at:
http://twin.uoregon.edu/~joelja/pictures%20-%2020
Re:Metro Shelving...Bakers' Racks (Score:3, Informative)
One thing, though. Don't follow the instructions on putting them together. Take one shelf, put it upside down on the floor. Assemble the tubes, put them into the upside down shelf. Put your first shelf near the bottom, put the next one wherever you like, pick up the whole thing and remove the upside down shelf. I can get a set together in under 10 minutes this way.
Re:Metro Shelving...Bakers' Racks (Score:1)
Cheapest Source for Metro (Score:2, Informative)
Pull out the yellow pages and track down a store fixture or restaurant supply shop- preferably one that sells used. I've been able to find used stuff at 50% of the industrial price, which is already considerably lower than the consumer retail price.
Rack-mounts for Metro shelving (Score:2, Interesting)
Personally, I think the Metro brand is the best out there. I can see the reduced quality in the knock-off brands. YMMV.
All 4 desktop systems and 2 laptops were stored on my Metro shelving next to my desk. I used one KVM switch for all 7 systems. I used a regular desk for my work surface, monitor, keyboard & files. Plus I had another monitor & keyboard for the Sparc. This leaves a clean work surface for me, which is important. I do a lot of document creation and still like working with paper. Also, having a mostly clear desk helps me focus on the tasks at hand.
The Metro shelving also held my fax, laser printer, power strips and networking devices. The cables were kept clean using black velcro strips. The shelves were black too. Metro's Heavy Duty castors let me easily pull the shelving out to manage the cables when needed.
Two shelves held 4 rows of books, back-to-back. I also stored my printer paper on the bottom (increased stability). My working file folders and incoming mail were on side-attached accessories.
All of this stuff used to take up 3 desks, a bookshelf and some floor space. Pretty slick.
Flat screen (Score:1)
A word on chairs: Don't go cheap. My 100$ IKEA chair was a nuisance and literally a pain. I found 4 used Eames Aluminium Frame chairs (the conference table model, not the highback) and it's an unbelievable difference.
Under $125 (Score:5, Insightful)
Unsightly? maybe... but functionality is great!
Re:Under $125, try under $40.00 (Score:1)
The bookcases are a little hard to get to so they only have books about Windows on them
Great Idea! (Score:3, Funny)
If it has a sink cutout, that's where I'm going to put the monitor. (Maybe I can get a 'swirling water' screen saver. That would be cool.)
A couple of spigots that attach down to the beer and coffee dispensers would be key.
If I replace the old aeron with a working john, I'd never have to get up, too!
(Sorry - I've been coding all day - I'm a little punchy...)
Actually, formica makes a great work surface and as g33kb0y mentioned, that backsplash is really handy.
Cheers,
Jim
Re:Great Idea! (Score:1)
Word to the wise, don't open to both drawers in a file cabinet that's filled with stuff, lest you want to ruin many thousands to see it crashing down. Almost happened way back when I used this setup.
To echo Budgenator (Score:2)
Re:To echo Budgenator (Score:2)
The corner table has been making me feel claustrophobic lately.
I'm getting a 78" X 30" door, and laying it on top of two plastic two-drawer 21" high "rollaway" file cabinets with the casters removed. This will give me a big general purpose surface at the 22" height I prefer for typing or taking hardware apart, plus a rollaway laptop cart with a tiltable, adjustable height work surface for either my or a guest's laptop.
I'm getting an "Aeron knockoff" chair from Office Depot; my wife has one of these and loves it.
I already have a bunch of wall shelving but am adding more. I am also moving to a wireless home network to reduce wiring/clutter and so we have the option of working anywhere in the house or yard. We already have Cat-5 outlets in most rooms, but more and more I find I would rather work outdoors as much as possible.
The laptop cart is becoming my "real office" anyway. It has room for my laptop, a coffee mug, my rolodex, and a stack of paper, with a small "hanging file" basket attached for other files and books I need to have handy as I write.
Essentially, my 8X10 office is becoming workroom where the printer, wireless point, cable modem, and fax machine live, someplace I can work in private if I choose and use as book/paperwork storage. It is still my refuge, but is no longer the only place I can work.
The furniture cost for my office has been about $400 total, and wireless gear has set me back about $600, including the access point and 2 pcmcia cards.
- Robin
Re:Under $125 (Score:2)
The current desk is between two vanities, as you mention. But one other thing... Two pieces of angle iron between the vanities to keep the sinktop from warping in the span. The monitor sits up on a platform on one side, and the keyboard can store under the platform when the extra space is needed.
One of these days I want a new monitor platform, and it will be designed to be just taller than the splashguard, so I can push the monitor further back to accomodate middle-aged eyeballs. (One of these days those eyeballs may be an excuse for a flat panel.)
Slashdot calls it "the ultimate chair" (Score:3, Interesting)
Slashdot: The Ultimate Chair [slashdot.org]
Poetic Tech: Working environments for high tech professionals [poetictech.com]
They don't come with beer fridges but can serve as inspiration, that's for sure...
DIY home offices for DIY AI (Score:1)
Here at the Vaierre psychotope of the Mentifex AI project, the essential sine qua non of artificial mind-makery is an immersive environment of books, files, computers and organizers. Pick a friend early in life with whom thou shalt have a year-in-year-out ongoing contest to see which of you is the more organized and the more retentive of instant access to any piece of information or physical object. Do your work in a wrap-around surround-ground with all the most needed paraphernalia only an arm's length or at most a few steps away. Put posters or photographs of your heroes (e.g. to wit twit: Beethoven; Jimmy Carter; the DEC Alpha 64-bit IC; Alexander Dubcek; Lech Walesa; George Smiley a.k.a. Sir Alec Guiness -- all enshrined on the mentifical walls) up around you, because "Tell me who your heroes are, and I'll tell you how much of a nutcase you are." Then steal the password of a really famous Slashdot d00d, Dude, and post all about it so as to grant the poor Harry Haller wannabe a good case of plausible deniability.
AnthroCart (Score:5, Informative)
Oh, and it is almost worth buying something just to see their packaging: 2 inch thick corrugated cardboard!
For the record, I don't work for Anthro and have no relatives or friends who do, I just own one of their desks and like it very much.
Re:AnthroCart (Score:1)
Anthro made my home office workable (Score:2)
I've got a two-tier setup that has space for my monitor, printer, USB hub, Visor dock, external CD burner, external HD, external Zip drive, flatbed scanner, my laptop, keyboard, and still enough space for the phone and two spots for putting all my paperwork and associated crap.
I've had other home desk setups before, usually cheap, one-shot arrangements. But as others have mentioned, the Anthro products are very high-quality, sturdy, and attractive. Think of it this way - if you use your home office for hours on end, day after day, wouldn't you rather invest a bit more money for something that will actually keep you happy?
The Ultimate Desk (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:The Ultimate Desk (Score:1)
Try Creativity + 4x8 sheet of plywood (Score:3, Interesting)
My construction was simple. I cut a single 4'x8', 0.75" sheet of oak plywood to the correct shape. To support the weight of my monitors, I ran bracing the length and width of the table directly under the monitors. The bracing strips are 2" wide, made from the same sheet of plywood, and mounted perpendicular to the bottom of the table. For added stability, I fastened two edges the table to the wall using 2"x2"s, but if your installation is temporary this may not work for you. Because of the bracing and wall fastening, the table requires just one leg, which leaves plenty of space for my legs and four computers under the table.
I cut the table to shape using a scroll saw, which I already owned. I rounded the edges using a router, which I now had an excuse to buy
Total cost, $90. Satisfaction, at least 10 times anything I found in stores at a reasonable price.
Notes:
1. Explicitly define your requirements. Mine were lots of table space, enough depth for 21" monitor, keyboard tray that also has room for the mouse, and plenty of room under the table for multiple computers. Also, where are you going to put it? In particular, consider the location's lighting.
2. Create a prototype. Use string or masking tape to create a virtual table
3. Double check that the design is stable and robust. In particular, is it strong enough to hold that pair of 21" monitors. Consider bracing to MHz or RAM, more is better.
5. Buy the wood, tools, screws and wood glue. Try and find "void free" plywood. Most plywood has hidden holes in the interior layers.
6. Even thought I took my time, used guides to ensure my straight edges were straight and curves consistent, rounded the edges, and put on three finishing coats, the entire project only took four hours. It is well worth it!
Pronounciation question (Score:1)
Re:Try Creativity + 4x8 sheet of plywood (Score:3, Insightful)
Sounds as though you were creating a non-rectangular table top. In a case like that, it's a good idea to do a mock-up with pink or blue foam insulation board. It's a 4 foot by 8 foot sheet (just like plywood but a lot cheaper), cuts a lot easier, is thick enough (half to three-quarters of an inch) that it won't "flop". You can put it where the table top is going to go, sit down at it and try it on for size (but don't expect it to hold your monitor up!!!), modify its shape with a utility knife (use duct tape to "cut it bigger"), and then when you have it the way you want it, use it as a template by which to cut the plywood.
Cabinets (Score:2, Informative)
Most cabinet suppliers now carry a home office line. The possibilites are unlimited and you can find things in almost any price range.
$50 desk (Score:2, Informative)
but here is my thirteen cents worth.
Go to Home Depot (or your local lumberyard), along the way grab/steal/obtain one of those hard to find lumber carts...then:
Select a Solid Core Oak Door. SOLID. not hollow.
usually about $45-$50
Take it home, polyurethane or paint it to your hearts delight...(satin black was my choice)
then...
grab two of your file cabinets...one on each end
throw the door on top and voila!
one helluva strong computer desk.
If you are as motivated a good friend of mine...cut a 4" drop shelf out of the back-center of the door as wide as (2) 19" monitors, and drop supports, and voila, a nice cozy place for them expensive monitors, but wait there's more...add a few pieces of plywood and some dowels and glue and voila, now you have a shelf over those 19" monitors. If you have a router handy, give the edges of the door/desk a rounded top and sand to smooth.
Note:
this is HEAVY solution but cheap and effective.
HON file cabinets work great as supports.
Re:$50 desk (Score:1, Interesting)
Re:$50 desk (Score:2)
As long as you don't get one of the *interior* hollowcore doors, yeah. Some of them, you can put a fingertip through if you push hard enough.
Nor do you really have to treat the desk, untreated wood works fine.
What kind of geek are you, that you don't have liquids near your computer desk? Liquids that periodically get spilled on the desk?
(My computer desk is a billion-year-old O'Sullivan or Sauder or one of those. And I never use a mousemat, so the pseudo-woodgrain has comletely worn off where the mouse is, and there are ripply spots where drinks have spilled and soaked into the particleboard, and the drawer bottom has been replaced because my cat, about the same age as the desk, slept in it from kittenhood up to his sixteen-plus-pound adult weight and fell through it, and...
The computers, though, live on one of those spiffy wire racks with particleboard shelving.
cheapo furniture (Score:1)
Suggestions.. (Score:1, Insightful)
Next, for a desk, consider using an interior door for a desktop. You can put it on top of some file cabinets (which have foam rubber on top to cushion the vibrations). Put some kind of nice, hard finish on it - Varathane, Minwax or such.
Finally, Give up that Coffee. It will raise your cholesterol, make your glands swell, and make your desk sticky.
The solution is modularity (Score:2, Insightful)
Everything is modular, no bigger than it needs to be, and on wheels.
Every computer gets its own desk. As small as possible, with as few gimmicks as possible - no CD towers, no printer shelves, no cubbyholes; the only thing I'll accept, if the desk isn't low enough already, is a keyboard shelf, and that has to be wide and deep. It has to be on wheels. The ones I've come to like are the very simple little rolling workstation platforms that you can find at most computer or office superstores for about $60 - basically a flat desktop with a keyboard drawer and a bottom shelf to stash the tower.
Then I have one adjustable height folding table - Sam's for about $40 - about 30" deep x 72" wide; I've set that at a convenient keyboard height, and I usually have a laptop or two set up there. But it's easy to take the laptops off and set up a tower/monitor/keyboard at a convenient height for setup, modification, debugging. I've also got my DSL router, network switch, and a couple of power blocks velcro'd to that table at one end toward the back.
Then I've picked up a couple of sets of lovely maple folding tv tables - four tables, plus a stand, for typically $20-30 bucks. I've got a scanner more or less permanently set on one, and a printer on another. The others come and go as my need for horizontal space grows and shrinks.
Add one of those plastic 4-drawer cabinets (any office superstore, about $20-30) and a couple of file crates with wheels that live under the laptop table when I'm not actively working with them, and a bookshelf on one wall, and I've got a very efficient and flexible workspace!
Remember the three M's of home office furniture - Modular, Minimal, and Mobile.
Good luck.
Richard
Creating an inexpensive solution (Score:3, Insightful)
I use a desk from Office Depot (about $60) for my workstation - it's wider than normal computer desks, so you can fit your mouse, keyboard and a frosty beverage on the main desk surface. A shelf in the back comfortably holds 2 monitors, and the space under the shelf gives me plenty of room to hold all those little odds and ends. I have two of the desks together at about a 90 degree angle, and they make a great work area.
The other trick was to get a decent chair with height-adjustable arms (about $100) and set them so that the top of the arms is roughly even with the desk. I've had tendinitis and carpal tunnel in the past, but I haven't had any trouble at all working in my home office.
Multiple desks (Score:3, Interesting)
SEVEN Computers? (Score:3, Interesting)
Unfinished Furniture and Polyurethane (Score:2, Interesting)
Similar problem - retail desks are small! (Score:3, Informative)
cheap and good quality office furniture.. (Score:1)
There are tonnes of auction company's that auction off old office furniture collected by finance companies from bumbed out companies and so on..
They generally go pretty cheap, at work we got a $800 corner desk for about $100, pretty much top quality..
So check them out, youll be able to find something that suites, or maybe 5 desks
You need an EIA 19" Rack. (Score:1)
My office is less than elegant, I must add...making total use of folding tables and such simply because it's cost effective. The place is a dump.
http://www.agentgreen.org/content/homeoffice.html [agentgreen.org]
From Trial And Error (Score:1)
Rule 2) Always put plastic / carpet between your chair wheels and floor. If you do not do this then the floor will look like hell after one year. Or worse you will loosen the tiles
Rule 3) Get a REALLY good chair. Your butt is going to be in it for a while and you want to be comfortable. And I do not go for the ergonomic chairs. Often I sit diagonally in my chair or something wierd and a "boss" style chair is great. I find ergonomic chair makes my butt fall asleep.
Rule 4) Get wireless or multi-device boxes. Otherwise you will have wire spaghetti...
Experience building your own- done that (Score:2)
My friend, who has loads of cash,
designed his own, and contracted the guy who custom did cabinets for his kitchen to build it.
The towers are on platforms that slide on aircraft-grade drawer tracks, so that the towers under the desks can be pulled out easily for access. the monitors sit at 45 degrees in recesses in the top of the desk (yes, he uses 19" screens. I encouraged him to get 17" LCDs and have then on articulated arms from the wall, but noooo!)
His scanner is on a shelf that slides forward and down. There's a full complement of cubbies in the hutch above the desktop.
Now, remember, the kitchen cabinet guy did all this, so the desk is a slick black granite formica, and everything else- best quality you can get. It's pretty damn sharp.
Ultra Low Tech (Score:2, Interesting)
Not being tooled up, I went down to B&Q and bought a drill, jigsaw, sander, saw, and one of those 'every tool you'll ever need' boxes for about £60. I then drove over to my mates work and took about 6 of the cleanest pallets I could find in their warehouse.
Two weekends of sanding, cutting, hammering and the like later I have a spanky 'slightly rustic' desk for absolutely free! Apart from having to buy the tools. which will last.
The timber would have cost about £100 - so even then its a HUGE desk about 14 feet long, and between 3 and 5 feet deep, with shelving beneath and some neat monitor stands for under 160 quids!
Two options for you (Score:1)
He built a a custom "horseshoe" desk that fits around three sides of his small room. He used IKEA parts, which I believe ran him somewhere in the neighborhood of $400, and he went to the IKEA store and picked up the parts to save on shipping. It looks nice, and the parts are re-configurable and replaceable. It's not as sturday as what I did, however.
What I did was get a couple of pieces of 4x8 foor, 3/4s inch AC-grade plywoord ($60) and probably about 20, 8-foot long pine "wall stud" 2x4s ($2.25 each at Home Depot). When I cut these up and bolted them together, what resulted was a desk 12 feet long with a 32" high desktop, 28" high keyboard/mouse "drop downs," if you will, for four workstations; and sets of shelves at 5.5 feet and 7 feet high.
What results is a 12 foot long, 7 foot tall, 2 foot deep "Command Center," made of soft wood and deck screws that can be finished in any color or finish you would like, and is able to be assembled and disassembled in a few hours if you're moving.
I know it's hard to imagine, but I don't have any pictures online at this point. Email me privately and I would be happy to email you a couple
Good luck!
DIY computer desk (Score:1)
The eight foot distance between my file cabinets was plenty of room for my icebox and my woofers, and a large black trashcan with a shredder.
The major difference was that I put this along one wall with a narrow walkway between the wall and my desk, for getting to those pesky spaghetti piles of wires. I even got some of that split plastic corrogated tubing to keep the wiring in, which helps.
I added another thinner shelf behind my computers, standing it upright to hide all the wiring mess from view.
The first time I put it together, it was flush to the wall, and impossible to wire up. Therefore, I moved it out to make the narrow walking space behind it all.
After a while, I tried to cover it with a semidull black formica. It worked! That was easier than I thought it would be, and now it all looks pretty cool.
Once you add some tiny studio post lights for the keyboard and writing spaces, some big speakers hooked to an AV amplifier, nail all your powerstrips and routers to the back of the upright shelf, and add a cable box with a small television, you have a place to work that you would never have to leave.
Oh, and get a comfortable black leather chair to match. Also get a hard flat floor mat under your chair so you can navigate the distance from one end to the other on wheels.
The whole thing was gotten for less than $300, a bit at a time. I got some hot posters framed in narrow black frames on the wall behind, and some indirect lighting for them hung behind that back board, and I am set.
Lets see? Humm? What if I exchanged that leather chair for a portapotty? . . . (grin)
Big, sturdy, furniature (Score:1)
Sometimes you get lucky ... (Score:1)
I had already purchased (and used) all of my office furniture before I moved to my current place.
I have two desks with built-in adjustable-height keyboard shelves. The desks are considerably wider at one end than the other, designed specifically for a fairly large monitor, and I have them in opposing orientations - so you have two positions almost back-to-back, but facing into the corners of the room. There are matching rolling filing cabinets which are able to fit under the desks (although they actually aren't under the desks) and matching bookshelves.
When we moved to the new place we happened to have an alcove off the lounge room which was a perfect fit - literally, 5cm either end of a desk. The filing cabinets are placed between the desks at the end where we sit, and have the two printers (laser and inkjet) on top of them - again, there is about 10cm total clearance from one wall to the other with this setup, and it provides plenty of space so that we don't run into each other.
The monitors sit on stands with a couple of small drawers in them (for holding things such as monitor wipes, pens, rechargable batteries, etc). There is plenty of space for the cats to sit between myself and the monitor ... one of the few disadvantages ;)
The 3rd and 4th computers are at the other ends of the desks - using them is slightly uncomfortable, but since they are used a lot less this is a non-issue.
The shelves form a very good separator between the lounge room and the office. I have one of my lounges backing onto the two sets of shelves, and have ended up with an almost-separate room from which you can happily watch the TV while something is going on.
Computers are placed under the desks at the ends away from where we sit - the monitor cables are just long enough for this to work perfectly. I have my scanner just off to to the side where I sit (easy to get at, doesn't interfere with anything) and my switch and hub on the other desk in the same position.
However, I would advise that if you can, use a separate room for the office (we didn't have the option, and the alcove was a perfect fit - if we hadn't used it for an office I don't know what we would have done, because the space was way too large for a lounge room).
Now I'm going back to play Arcanum [sierrastudios.com] - without a doubt CRPG of the yearBuild your own furniture (Score:1)
All low cost solutions....but no high end stuff... (Score:5, Informative)
Sligh [sligh.com] furniture carries a line of home office furniture that looks like conventional furniture (hutches, desks, cabinets, etc). It's modular, of very high furniture quality, and really functional. Best of all, it looks like it belongs in a home and not an office or spacecraft or sterile.
But, it is pricey. We're in the process of finishing our basement which now includes a home office with 16 network jacks, 25 dedicated ground outlets and, I think, 8 phone jacks. We've got a built-in storage cabinet that will house my networking gear and UPS to help keep the office uncluttered. Additionally, we're looking at a printer cabinet that will house my laser printer, and a dedicated print server and probably our fax machine.
The kids play area also has a builtin dedicated computer desk (networked, of course) and place for an ink-jet printer and phone. Having one's own home with an unfinished area is a bonus as I have the luxury to do it right and not have to retrofit.
Yeah..I had to take a loan out for this...but when people say there are no decent computer furniture, that applies to people who are:
1) either not willing to really look or
2) don't have a budget for the more expensive stuff or
3) need a temporary arrangement (like a student moving into a dorm). In this case, rule #2 (or #1) usually applies.
I do however, applaud all the people who have responded with solutions that are truly functional for them and on a relatively low budget. It shows ingenuity and that necessity truly is the mother of invention.
And, I have to admit that sometimes I wish my wife would let me splurge and get some really off the wall stuff. Personally, I prefer the high tech look. But, for a home that I may have to resell someday, that isn't the most practical solution.
Cheers,
RD
Re:All low cost solutions....but no high end stuff (Score:2)
The Sligh stuff probably would look a bit out of place next to my plastic drawer set, but obviously plastic drawers means they are out of my range anyway. But if they were in my range, I could imagine fitting them together with other things. And wood is always attractive in a very natural way -- unassuming and undemanding.
OTOH, I'm not a big fan of moulding and , which covers most of Sligh's stuff. But I suppose there's lots of other places with that style too, if you look for it.
Why build a desk around today's Frankenstein tech? (Score:1)
I'm figuring that in a year or two when my current CRT dies I'll get a similar-sized flat panel, and then I'll be able to use my nice little antique oak letter desk as my computer station.
Anyway, I'm currently using a $50 8-foot table from Office Max, with a cheapo shelf up on a couple of blocks to hold the monitor and another cheapo shelf attached to the front edge for a lowered keyboard tray. At home I've got a kickass height-adjustable computer table, which instead is the electronics bench. The computer sits in a roll-around stand from Office Max, and I keep drilling more holes to move the shelves around as equipment changes.
banquet tables (Score:1)
those fancy 'computer workstations' are a waste of money, imo. two tables full of equipment and books looks way cooler than any 'ol woodwork.
The ultimate ergonomic workstation (Score:2)
Re:The ultimate ergonomic workstation (Score:1)
Welll,, (Score:1)
Its two Oak verneer table tops, with wide legs made of the same material. Very nice and extremely heavy. IT took 2 guys to lift the table top.
Glass (Score:5, Informative)
Anyway, my desk is in an alcove about 1.5m wide by 1m deep. It's constructed of a single sheet of tempered glass 6mm thick supported on three sides by 1" square blocks of wood bolted to the walls.
There are gaps in the support blocks at the back for the wires to go through and the glass is pulled slightly forward for them to fit. There's a piece of conduit bolted to the back wall that hides all the cables away.
It holds a 19" monitor, printer and a scanner (plus the inevitable pile of CDs, manuals etc that end up on it).
The effect is amazing, it looks like everything is just hanging there, the supports are painted the same coulour as the walls so they're not very obvious when you first see it. I intend to get a wireless mouse and keyboard to complete the effect at some point.
If you're thinking of doing this, get some professional advice on the glass and supports. I had the glass cut and polished by a specialist company (cost about £60) who worked out how thick it would need to be to support the weight.
Picnic table (Score:1)
Did I mention cheap? $50US for an 8' table you
can pickup and carry out when you get evicted.
Use the closet! (Score:1)
I removed the closet doors and put one of my desks in the closet. Mom passed along this tip from a magazine she'd read, and I am amazed at how much space it saves (plus I get a whole extra usable wall).
My other desk is a big piece of lam pine from Home Depot on top of a couple of drawer units from IKEA with home-built spacers on top to put the desktop at the right height. The lam pine hasn't shown any signs of warping after 5+ years of big monitors on top.
My hardware setup is less than ideal -- just utility shelving (vertical supports screwed into the wall with slots for shelf brackets) and pine boards for shelves. I wouldn't really recommend this stuff as it's turning out not to be sturdy enough for heavy stuff. I plan to replace it with something similar, though -- the overall arrangement works well. The extra heat near my desk is actually a bonus in my case, because my husband likes the house temperature kept somewhere around the "meat locker" setting. Other storage and a drop-leaf table (more horizontal space when I need it, out of the way when I don't) is provided by an IKEA "IVAR" wall unit. May not be the best quality in the world, but it definitely wins for ease of customization.
I'm surprised no one has mentioned... (Score:3, Informative)
Sturdy.
60$.
I bought a second one for a workbench. The office stores deliver for free also.
Re:I'm surprised no one has mentioned... (Score:2)
compared to the little desks that they try to pass off as quality, i was almost ready to just put a full sized dining-room table into my office, but then i walked into office max and found the nicest 8' folding table for 60 bucks. seconds later, it was in the back of the truck.
-c
Check out this desk (Score:2)
Folding (banquet?) tables (Score:2)
Exactly what I designed (Score:2, Interesting)
For my computers, I changed from cases to rack mount units, and bought a 22U rack from Greybar. I have one desktop system running Windows, as my Quicken and games system. Everything fits, and runs great.
nice big desk (Score:1)
solid_core_door: laminated in birch or some nice looking wood, without knob hole, they make fairly wide ones at least 3'. It can be painted with oil finish for protection from the elements.
saw_horse: pick the one that fits the height you want.
pros of this desk:
-very sturdy (you can stand on it).
-can be easily disasambled/assambled.
-cheap for what you get.
cons:
-top is kind of heavy.
-painting is needed if you want it to keep a nice look.
Cheap desk space (Score:2)
My parents were the kind of people who thought their son didn't deserve anything better than lumber and bricks for furniture. As a result, they threw together a desk for me when I was in highschool It was a door and two filing cabinets. It turned out remarkably well. I still use this arrangement today. I have two of the short filing cabinets with an interior door on top. I also made some saw horses from 2x4s and put another door on top. this is easily enough space to hold my two 19" monitors, color laser, component stereo, 17" monitor, two towers, scanner, fax/copier, and assorded hubs and other goodies. I'm getting ready to make a third set of saw horses for the other door in the garage.
So you can go to your local home center and buy a door ($40), metal saw horse brackets ($2 * 2), and a couple 2x4s ($3 * 2). So for 50 you can get a huge (if unattrctive) desk.
I also recycled a friend's old kithen counter. I screwed some plywood into the sides to act as legs. Now I can put that on top of the file cabinets and door for a more floor space efficient arrangement.
The Home Depot Desk Solution (Score:2)
And it breaks down for easy moving or reconfiguration. The only drag I've found is the masonry blocks will shed a little dust when you move them.
KVM's are nice (Score:2)
Cheap and Big... (Score:2)
... are my requirements, and I've used the same solution for almost 10 years now: folding tables. For $50 at any office store you can buy large, strong folding tables that are three feet wide, which gives me plenty of depth for a 21" monitor and keyboard. They're surprisingly strong, too, although I find that if I put two large monitors on one, I'm better off separating them a little -- putting both monitors right next to each other in the center of the table tends to produce a little sag. I'm currently using two tables, one is 6' long and the other 9', set in a corner configuration. I've been toying with getting another 9' table to put behind me. I don't find I have much need for drawers, etc.; just lots of table space, one small filing cabinet and, of course, the inevitable bookshelves that cover every spare inch of wall space.
Yes! (Score:2)
I got some dual sided terminal strips, with about six connectors - about 4 or 5 should do. Then, I got some heavy gauge automotive wire, and a Sun power supply. I mounted the power supply on the bottom of the table, hooked an LED to one of the 5v leads, and ran it to the front metal lip, drilled the hole and mounted it. Then, I ran the wires from the 12 and 5 volt lines along different paths on the terminal strips, so I have this "ladder" arrangement of take off points for 12, 7, and 5 volts, to power most devices, like my Zip drive, my phone (office style phone with power), scanner, and a couple of cooling fans. Eliminates the need for all of those wall warts!!!
And for shelves, I have used several el-cheapo steel shelving units. They were 4 foot tall units, so I bolted two atop one another, to make 8 foot units, bolted them to the wall, and next to each other, and bolted them all together, for a wall of bookshelf space, and other things. Impressive as hell.
Oh yeah, my desk is in the center of the room, chair facing door (hey, I am paranoid). I routed power with extension cords from plugs on the wall, across the ceiling and down to the table, and covered them with plastic cable wrap. By having everything out in the middle of the floor, it makes it super, ultra easy to pull a box out, pop the top, and fiddle with it, which I tend to be very prone to doing...
Try Techline (Score:2)
too much (Score:2)
I have a pretty big corner desk I got at Office Depot, with a short bookshelf in matching color sitting on top of the back of one side. Two APC UPSes (one for my dual monitors, one for the computer and some net equipment) act as a stand for a heavy wood platform for both monitors. A second wood platform is supported by a simple pedestal of two 1x6 boards nailed in a "T", standing between the back ends of the monitors, and a 13" TV sits atop that.
Nearby are two shelving units; one is plastic with a cabinet in the bottom, and holds my printer and various supplies. I picked that up at Target. The second is a heavy wire shelving unit on casters that I picked up at Sam's Club. That shelf holds my other CPUs, as well as open workspace and an extra monitor and keyboard for diagnostic purposes. The power and network wires are routed so I can pull the unit away from the wall for easy cabling access.
Does it sound crowded? Well, yes, it is. But it's a hell of a lot less crowded than if I'd attempted to shoehorn the lot into one desk.
shaggy dog story (Score:3, Informative)
She also has a yen for antique furniture, and insisted on using a 120 year old partner's desk with its matching chair. The desk was a about eight inches too high to comfortably type, and was almost a foot think (so you couldn't solve the problem by jacking up the chair). It was aslo shaped as a square, with the origional idea being that two peopl would work from either side. My mother's solution was to place the desk in the center of the room, and walk around the thing whenever she needed to get to one of the systems on the other side. Needless to say, after every project, she had horrible back pain and aching wrists (bad enough that she couldn't hold a cup of coffee). And yet, she utterly refused to buy a real desk - "I just can't stand modern furniture!" was her reasoning.
In any event, I decided that the only way I was going to get her to use a real desk was if I built the thing myself, thus guilting her into an ergonimic solution. So, I took measurements of her height, the length of her legs to the knees and to the hip, and the length of her arms, and built a desk to her exact measurements. Fortunatly, my high school offered and woodworking evening activity. I spent about seven months building the thing (it had to hold up nearly a 1000 Kg of equipment, not to mention live up to her tasts for good furniture). In the end, it was four feet deep, fourteen feet long, with two sets of drawers and two vented computer cabinets. If anyone's ever built furniture before, you know what a pain in the ass it is to build drawers, especially big ones! Wood expands and contracts by as much as 5% with humidity and temperature, so big drawers are next to impossible to get right without doing all sorts of strange things to compensate for the changes in geometry. I also had the pleasure (?!!) to have had access to a seasoned trunk of red oak, so I milled the desk surface, leggs and other main parts myself. Since the desk had to be so large and hold up so much weight, I actually found all the available plans and project guides to be utterly useless. The main span of the desk is nine feet, and had to be able to support up to two tons (in case, for instance, someone dropped one of those 20" monitors on it from a few feet in the air, the desk wouldn't collapse and destroy the rest of her equipment).
I ended up turning to bridge design for a workable solution. It had to take into account the high loads, vibration and shock, and expansion and contraction of the material. Basically, I went with a box-girder construction, but with suspension cables inside the box. The suspension cables were nessesary becasuse the joints of the box girder could not simply be fixed to one another, or the surface of the desk would split. Each of the joints is made using lateral rails with ballbearings, like the sliders for a drawer, only much larger. Unfortunatly, this leads to a rather unpleasant amount of gear lash since the bearings require a small amount of play. The suspension cables keep the desk arched slightly upward, instead of bowed downward. This insures that the bearings are aways biased in the same direction so there is no gear lash. Also, the suspension cables are mounted to shock absorbers. Any vibration on the surface is transmitted into the shock absorbers. The result is that the desk surface is only four inches thick at the center, but is strong enough to hold up a small car (or withstand the shock of a 150 Kg object droped from two meters), sturdy enough that you can pound a nail into a block of wood and not skip a CD player a foot away, and flexible enough that it expands an contracts lengthwise by about an inch and a half.
In the end, it cost me about $300 to build the desk, if you assume my time was worthless (I was a high school student, so that was pretty much the case) and you don't count the electricity and heating oil I used up. After graduation, my mother shiped it from Vermont to California - all 400 kilograms of it. I'll leave it as an exersize to the reader to figure out how much more it cost to ship than to build.
She is now happily using a desk built to her exact ergonimic requirements, and has not suffered from back or wrist pain in the four years since she's been using it. It's not quite as pretty as the aincent antiques she's got - but hey, it was my first (and thusfar only) attempt at woodworking.
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DIY Suggestion (Score:2)
Automotive carpet is an ideal way to cover up plywood creations. At work, there is a bunch of deep (24") benches running around the shop, with 2x4's on the edge for support, and angled 2x4's that run diagonally towards the wall for additional bracing. It has been covered in off-gray automotive carpeting. Looks wonderful. The automotive carpet isn't plush, and static hasn't been a problem at all (I've built many computers on one of the benches). The only thing I might mention is that if you tend to spill things, this might not be the ideal solution.
PS - File cabinets are wonderful to reduce clutter. As well as shelves that are a higher height then normal, and runs around the room. A bookshelf is often useful. Also, try to arrange the work area in a U-shape, its more efficient. And throw ethernet connections EVERYWHERE. If you have a lot of computers, consider investing in a rack, its worth it.
Lots of great ideas, but... (Score:2)
Home office done right (Score:2)
About the same time, I got to tinker with my mom's house, where I stash most of my servers. Her "sewing room" added:
While we were at it, we redid the rest of the house. Every room now has at least one cat5e drop and a coax cable feed (yes, including her desk). The whole house runs switched 100TX. Oh yes, and we threw 4200w of solar cells on the roof and about 24 KwH of battery storage in the garage, to help with those wonderful brownouts. Even with everything running full blast (inc. 12 servers + switch + 2 routers) we pretty much balance out.
Another person mentioned IKEA furniture. If you're in an apartment, their office stuff seems like it offers some pretty good possibilities and options - I was quite impressed, esp. with value-for-money.
Moderators!!! (Score:1, Interesting)
Why is this modded up as insightful? At least the jocks stick together: if a geek comes to a football game and shouts "Football is a huge waste of time", he'll get beaten up by both team's supporters. But if a jock posts to a geek site that you don't need so much computers, he gets modded up. Strange world.
Re:Buy or build something. (Score:2, Funny)
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Re:Use [wood] PVC! (Score:2)
Or, use PVC Pipe. Go with something like 1.25" for a balance between strength and space lost to structural elements, and maybe use 3/4 for the "hutch" sections (1/2" would work for fairly short spans /light load areas). Get some veneered plywood (or some MDF and veneer/roller of your own) and make shelvins/sides for the thing. You could build one heck of a kick-ass desk that's precisely what you want/need for not too much money if you went with cheap shelving materials (PVC is pretty cheap to begin with). Remember, you *can* paint the pipe to make it look more impressive.
Check out http://www.thepvcstore.com [thepvcstore.com] for some furniture plans that might get you started if you don't already know what to do...
Also, submit some pictures when it's done. :)