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Tiny Little Computer 99

Posted by CmdrTaco from the isn't-that-special dept.
Ethereal writes "This is probably one of the smallest computers available. It's roughly the size of a mouse! Specs: Processor:Intel Celeron 733 or Celeron 800 Format Mini-Book PC (All-in-One Solution); Size: 157 x 146 x 45 mm; Weight: 950g; Mem:64MB SDRAM DIMM PC100 City Desk; Motherboard Chipset Intel i810, UDMA66; HD: 10GB IDE UDMA66; Video: VGA Embedded i810 (S-Video & Composite); CD-ROM 40x Slim; Network: Embedded 10/100Mbps (RJ-45 Port); Sound: SB Compatible Embedded (Line Out, Mic In); Embedded Fax-Modem 56Kbps V.90 (RJ-11 Port); " Well, maybe not that small, but a twiddler and some sort of video unit and this sucker could be a wearable. I wish it had some wireless instead of a modem tho.
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  • a computer so small.... (Score:2)

    by Anonymous Coward
    it cannot even be linked to!
  • I just found this last Friday. They also have the "espresso" pocket PC which may or may not have been on /. previously. It is even smaller!

    http://www.unicomplabs.com/parts/main.asp?Catagory ID=25&SubCatagoryID=135 [unicomplabs.com]

    I was impressed with the features of both, but the price is a little steep. I think that a straight MicroATX BookPC is a better deal. Unicomp has two nice BookPC cases for the similarly budget minded.

    http://www.unicomplabs.com/parts/main.asp?Catagory ID=2&SubCatagoryID=244 [unicomplabs.com]

    Now, I just have to bring myself to buy a PC Chips motherboard. Anyone have recommendations for a P3 or Athlon MicroATX motherboard with integrated Video, 100 Mbps, sound with working Xservers and Linux drivers?
  • You're right. A PC without Linux on it wouldn't be useful to anyone.
  • I was being sarcastic, but thanks for the link.
  • Put e-smith on it. It's got almost everything you mentioned above, plus lots more.
    It's the most dead-simple Linux server install that I have found.
    It can be totally administered via a web interface. Plus you can telnet or SSH to it.
    It ships with Apache/PHP/MySQL out of the box.

    I've got it running here: rawtruth.net [slashdot.org] on my DSL circuit.

    e-smith.org [e-smith.org]
  • Here's a link to something that looks remarkably similar in english: Cappucino PC [unicomplabs.com]
  • Browsing around on the site I came across the Espresso (which has been on slashdot before) which is actuall smaller than the Cappucino G1 ... it's 6" x 4" x 1.25". Here you go: Espresso Pocket PC [unicomplabs.com]
  • OK, this isn't news. This machine (Cappuchino), and it's little brother the Espresso, have been mentioned half a dozen times going back to last April. [slashdot.org]

    They're made by Saintsong [saintsong.com.tw] in Taiwan, and the easiest place to get them in the states is iBuyPower. [ibuypower.com]

    ObLinux: iBuyPower builds these to order, and you can get them without an OS, including a $75 credit for the Windows Tax.

    Even though this is old news, they' are very cool. I have a dozen Celeron 533 Espressos that I use to run slideshow presentations at trade shows, and it's incredibly cool to be able to a) carry 12 machines in a briefcase, and b) literally duct tape them to the wall behind the monitor. (we usually use flat-panels)

    -Zandr
  • you'd think CT could code up a perl module that would check the links for him.

    -tduff
  • Man, even with a broken link, the site is already feeling the toils of the slashdot effect. It came up like a dog. :)

    I ran the page through babelfish. What I'm interested in is this point under "Características Gerais":

    * Acesso grátis ilimitado à Internet.

    Can anybody who can actually read the page tell me what that's supposed to mean?

    Babelfish translates it to:

    * Limitless Acesso grÃtis à Internet.

    Which really isn't all that helpful. It sounds like "Unlimited Internet Access". Are they bundling Internet service with this thing or something?

    Also note this: above the diagrams, it says on the original page:

    1 ANO DE GARANTIA

    Babelfish translates it to:

    1 ANUS OF GARANTIA

    Hmm...

    "One anus of WHAT?!?!" :)

    - Ed.

  • So, if you want an italian version, get this.

    And before anybody accuses me of being a *dumb* American, I'm just an inobservant one - I realize that they speak portugese in Portugal... I didn't notice the domain, and the two languages look similar, so I thought it was an Italian site. (Hey, I can tell the difference between Spanish and Italian, between Chinese and Japanese, etc... I just haven't seen enough portugese to be familiar with it, and thought it was italian).

    --
    Evan

  • It's not usable for a wearable computing solution; it requires a standard AC jack to power it up. Since it's not designed for battery operation, it probably draws much more power than a laptop (once you get past the power supply), so even modifying one isn't that practical.

    My original post: "Much nicer (IMHO) boxes are the Expresso and Cappuccino from SaintSong. Find them here: http://www.saintsong.com.tw/english.htm . Having seen these in action, they would be great for conventions so you just have to drag around either a projector or a LCD monitor plus something about the size of an old school WalkMan."

    Now, having looked at the SaintSong site again, I realize: HEY! This thing is a repackaged Cappuccino!

    So, if you want an italian version, get this. If you want it from the source, get a Cappuccino or Expresso (same, but without optical drive) from SaintSong.

    And, yes... Slashdot has reviewed these before.

    --
    Evan

  • It looks like exactly the same thing.

    Kevin Fox
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  • In the UK there is a company called [pangolinsm...ters.co.uk]
    Pangolinsmallcomputers.co.uk that sells them. Or atleast their advert in Linux User says so...

    Will
  • There is a product that is distributed throught Mynix (see http://www.mynix.com ) in Canada... it is called e-space. Nearly the same size but you can get a PIII 850 in it... see http://www.mynix.com/espace/index.html [mynix.com] for more details.
  • In fact, in Latin, "year" is anno, as in "Anno Domini". And "anus" means "anus", strangely enough. "Ano" would mean "in the anus"... A double n in Latin often converts to an ñ in Romance languages (eg. Spanish/Portuguese).

    --

  • Also interesting on this page is this bit:

    SUPPORT WINDOWS98/ME/2000/NT AND LINUX
  • Yeah, but the lack of ethernet on the smaller model makes it virtually useless for what I'd do with it.

    I think this would be a perfect headless linux server. Get FTP, HTTP, NFS, mars_nwe, Samba, and whatever other modes of access are available running on it so you can connect from anything. Bring it to a client's site, just plug in power and ethernet and your server appears on their network. Stick all your utilities, etc. on it. Also great for temporary backups.

    At ~$1299 with a 30Gig drive in it, it's not out of the question.

    The only problem that I see is if the site isn't using DHCP for assigning addresses. Then you've got to hook up a monitor and keyboard to it. Or I guess you could use a null modem cable plugged into the back of another PC.

  • the link is broken for me
  • Or you can buy my Espresso, which just happens to be on auction at Amazon [amazon.com] right now. ;-) Yeah, shameless plug, but I need cash!
  • The last time this was posted I remember that every single reply was about how this had already been posted... And to think I go excited for a second... until I recognized it as I would hope any editor would, dosn't anyone read slashdot anymore?
  • Can anyone figure out the price, or who to contact to get one of these cuties?


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  • Yes, at the moment you got these everywhere on advertising bills in the corridors of the subway in Paris with the title : "Le plus petit PC du monde !".
  • you'd think CT could code up a perl module that would check the links for him.

    One way might be to use HTML::LinkExtor and LWP::Simple using fork() with timeout on the LWP::Simple get() calls due to large files and the like.

  • You are kidding right? Its the same thing! The photo at the Portuguese site (Yeah portuguese!) Shows an almost identical photo to the "Capuccino G1"; so maybe your link is the right one instead.

    --

  • What is this thing [saintsong.com.tw] then? Do we have the case, and parts already available so anyone can build then!?!?

    --

  • http://www.cappuccinopc.com/:

    Provider error '80004005'

    Unspecified error

    //global.asa, line 20


    Or after ten retries....

    Provider error '80004005'

    Unspecified error

    /Default.asp, line 87

    Hope that's not one of their Cappuccino PCs being used as their web server....
  • Weight: 950g

    Computer, 50g
    900g, heat sink.

    This might be wearable north of the arctic circle, yuck-yuck.

  • Qué?

    ano=anus

    año=year

    that's all.

  • Here is another (Score:4)

    by EasyRhino ( 109776 ) on Sunday June 03, 2001 @01:31PM (#179677) Homepage
    Check out http://www.unicomplabs.com/spacesaving/cappuccinop c.asp [unicomplabs.com] for a closer look at a similar product. All the text is in English too.
  • Hello and I am Mr Ezgo!! proud maker of CITY DESK COMPUTING SUPERSMALL!! I am to be thanking you for the hyperlinking to my website. Slashbot is are being a most honourable website for this link!! Much thanks from Mr Ezgo!

    However there is one problem however. My website is unable to be reached! Why did Slashbot rape the webserver of Mr Ezgo? Is most rude. Perhaps because you are the hackers you have are hacked the webserver of Mr Ezgo?!! :-)))) Now now childs that is not nice! ;-)!!!!@!

    So thank you for the link!! To CITY DESK COMPUTING SUPERSMALL!!! Teh WAY OF THE FUTURE!!!

    Mr Ezgo
    City Desk GmbH

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  • . . . 1Ghz PIII, 20Gig HD, DVD, 512K RAM . . .
    It's a good thing you've got that big disk, because it sounds like you'll be swapping a lot.

    --

  • You aren't a gamer. Let me explain why:
    • Celerons are "cool" anymore. Get an Athlon -- they're faster, easier to overclock, and will cost about the same.
    • Where will you put the GeForce? What, you're going to game on some lamer integrated video (probably made by ATI) instead? Get to the back of the line.
    • Laptop CD-ROMs are generally slow. When you have to illegally install twelve copies of Quake III before things can get started, slow CD-ROMs are a no-no.
    • Even the dumbest gamer would understand that this is custom kit and you won't just be able to wander your dumb self down to CompUSA and ask for a 5" mainboard. "But I'm a GAMER!! And I'm l337!! Really!" Nope, sorry son.
    I really don't get you people. You have nothing to say and an uncontrollable desire to post. You'd be better off in the UF groupie/newbie forum where such drivel is applauded with responses of "lolll!!@! u R so k3wl!!".

    It's also sort of sad that people feel that they can contribute to technology discussions just by mentioning games. Some dude around here has a sig along the lines of "I thought you had to study science in order to be a geek, but these days you just have to play games." The more time that passes, the more I identify with that statement.

    FONS, "avtr".

    --

  • YHBT. YHL. HAND. :-)

    (My, and it was so blantant, too. I've really outdone myself -- I probably wasted a half-hour of your time with that reply!)

    Heh...

    --

  • That's Spanish. In Portuguese, "ano" == "year".
  • Only in Portugal. Down in Brazil we call it "mouse" (with English pronunciation, even). At least "rato" (rat) is shorter than "camundongo" (mouse).

    This applies to most other computer terms.

  • According to the Michaelis dictionary, "rato" or "rato doméstico" belongs to the genus "Rattus", although some species of "Mus" are also called "rato". "Camundongo" is a small rodent, gender "Mus". According to webster, "rat" belongs to genus "Rattus" and "mouse" to "Mus". Finally, "ratazana" is a just a big rat or a female rat.

  • Actually, they didn't lie. :-) The page says "praticamente do tamanho do seu rato", which means "almost the size of your mouse".

    But, taking the word "rato" to the other meaning (the animal), generally in portuguese there's no distinction between rat and mouse, "rato" being used in both situations. So... (g)


    --
    Marcelo Vanzin
  • Computer has the size of a mouse? Big deal. How about the computer-sized mouse?

    About 10+ years ago I worked for the Russian cosmic agency and we had some russian clones of 8086 PC XT, equipped with original russian mouses. Well, it had steel ball about 5 cm in diameter, cable was about 1 cm tick, the mouse size was about 20 cm long and its weight was about 1 kG (or 2 pounds). Well, probably, it was designed for some special military purposes :)

    Because of the size, we called it "rat", not mouse.

  • It requires 18V DC input, actually. Not completely infeasible if you want to wear a bunch of batteries on your back.

  • If you're looking for pricing... (Score:4)

    by Chagrin ( 128939 ) on Sunday June 03, 2001 @02:34PM (#179688) Homepage
    ..you'll find pricing here: http://www.unicomplabs.com/parts/main.asp?Catagory ID=39&SubCatagoryID=225 [unicomplabs.com]

    Starts at $939.00.

  • I dug http://www.citydesk.pt/produto_ezgo.htm [citydesk.pt] out of the page source.
  • Unfortunatly it appears to be available only with Microsoft Windows 2000 or Windows Millenium, and the hardware specification is limited so I can't tell if you can even install Linux on it.
    Unlike the Tardis [pangolinsm...ters.co.uk] which I believe has a Linux option. The only problem with that is that I'm waiting to see if the BBC will stamp down on the name [bbc.co.uk].
  • * VGA Embedded i810

    Never heard of it so its debatable if X will support it well or not.

    * Placa de Rede Embedded 10/100Mbps (RJ-45 Port);

    Embedded network card? Sounds ricky.

    * Placa de Som SB Compatible Embedded (Line Out, Mic In);

    SB Compatable's often require custom drivers.

    * Embedded Fax-Modem 56Kbps V.90 (RJ-11 Port);

    Almost certainly a winmodem
  • Friends, today we can finally say that (along with the open source movement) have developed the ultimate tool: the Linux Coaster! Capeable of processing Seti@Home data faster than any mere mortal coaster! Drinks of the world unite!

    Seriously, this things looks awesome. It's small, has a great processor/etc, and you could fit a server farm in a fridge! The only real problem is the lack of any kind of ethernet. Yes, you could use the USB port and a dongle to get one but still, I think it should be built in. Or an option between that and the modem (modems are pase anyway!). This would make a perfect bookshelf MP3 player. It's got sound and with the S-Video out you could put the playlist/visualsations on your TV. You could also use it to watch streaming video on your TV. I can think of lots of great stuff this could be used for. To find out, send me some and I'll come up with interesting uses for them! The address is...

  • http://www.unicomplabs.com/parts/main.asp?Catagory ID=39&SubCatagoryID=225

    Which was posted above...if you'll note it specifically touts it's compatability with Linux...
  • I've been looking for a board or kit that would allow me to do kewl things with a GPS in my car. It doesn't require much CPU power, but requirements include
    • Single 12V power supply
    • Two RS232/422 ports
    • Sound
    • Bidir parallel port
    • Compact flash

    The whole idea is to have two or three dash mounted buttons to mark the current location for review, enough RAM to store the raw location data, a serial hookup to up/download location and config data, and a hookup to the cellphone input of my car radio, to gently remind me when I enter a reduced speed highway and not so gently remind me when I come close to a known speed trap.

    It shouldn't be rocket science, but I've yet found a board that takes just a single 12V. Of course, I could just mount a laptop, but the hassle of unhooking the thing all the time to avoid the car being ripped open doesn't sound too exciting to me...

  • The cappucino site specifically mentions Linux as a supported OS.

    That said, the 810 is Intel's chipset for El Cheapo motherboards, and it shows in a number of ways. I eventually got XFree to work on an 810 based mobo, but I never got to like the board.

    Then again, Intel is no worse than VIA here. I'm still awaiting their response to my query for the data sheets (you can download the table of contents, but VIA has some mumbo jumbo about NDA's and just don't respond to enquiries). Maybe if I learned Taiwanese :-)

  • Well, obviously the makers of car mountable GPS units solved that issue.

    We're talking about something like 20 watts. I'd hazard that there are manufacturers that sell complete DC-DC convertors for precisely this purpose, without burning the excess 12-5=7 volts in heat like a 7805 would.

    But then again, if my electronics skills were any better I'd have built that bit myself :-)

  • Re:Size of a Mouse? (Score:3)

    by kfg ( 145172 ) on Sunday June 03, 2001 @02:29PM (#179698)
    When teaching intro to computer courses I like to hold up a mouse by the cord, dangling between two fingers, and ask the class:

    "Why do you think this is called a mouse?"

    Invariably someone will answer brightly," Cause it kinda looks like one."

    To which I can reply, " No, actually it looks like a rat, but that isn't cute and cudly and wouldn't sell as well."

    KFG
  • I've seen one of the Espresso models (under what name I can't remember). I don't remember too much about it except that it was pretty good at doing its job.

    I don't know what I think about these systems, though. They're great vertical-market units -- presentations, control systems, that sort of thing -- but as a plain old desktop system... I don't know. I tend to be rather cluttered and I'd worry about my CPU getting lost in the mess. I think they are quite cool in and of themselves, mind you, but who's kidding who -- they're toys. (Unless of course you live in a studio apartment with no room for a desk.)

    /Brian
  • this definently isnt a first size wise, but power wise maybe. stanford have had the worlds smallest web server [stanford.edu] for quite a while now although it is a measly 44Mhz, but it runs linux! (of course!)
  • The cool thing I learned today is they (Portuguese apparently) call the mouse "Rato" !
  • Ano and anus come from the same latin root which means "circle" or "circular." I can't remember what the latin word is, but this is one of the few things I remember from latin class.
  • When teaching intro to computer courses I like to hold up a mouse by the cord, dangling between two fingers, and ask the class:

    Of course, there's the old faithful procedure when you have a bad mouse: hold it up the same way, and ask if anybody smells anything...?

    "Dead mouse."

    (Groan)

    "I say consider this day seized!" -Hobbes

  • $50 Shipping and handling fee!! Hardly a bargain. I've spent less shipping on montors.
  • It's not particularly small. Compare it to a Sony Vaio C1, here are the specifications [dynamism.com]. The Vaio C1 is 249 x 152 x 27 mm, and weighs 1.1kg. That includes keyboard, screen, 30GB hard drive, and a battery. And the Vaio even has a Crusoe processor [transmeta.com]. What's so good about the "Ezmo"?
  • The fact that this story has been mentioned before has already been mentioned before. What I am wondering, though, is whether the fact that this has been mentioned before has already been mentioned before?
  • After seeing intro to computer courses in college, I have only one thing to say; I'm sorry.

    The slashdot 2 minute between postings limit:
    Pissing off hyper caffeineated /.'ers since Spring 2001.

  • Comment removed (Score:4)

    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Sunday June 03, 2001 @01:21PM (#179709)
    Comment removed based on user account deletion
  • The fact that this is not battery powered also kills its portability. Unless you have a really long extension cord that is.

  • What language did you run it through as? I ran it through and the two sentences you ask about came through as "Gratis limitless access to the Internet." and "1 YEAR OF GUARANTEE".

  • Here [systranlinks.com] is the page (kinda) translated into English courtesy of systran.

  • Link (Score:4)

    by Daemosthenes ( 199490 ) on Sunday June 03, 2001 @01:22PM (#179713)
    http://www.citydesk.pt/produto_ezgo.htm [citydesk.pt]

  • That's portuguese you pendejo.
  • You stronzo works....
  • These things are popping up everywhere. There's also one at http://www.ibuypower.com/product-pc/pocket-epc2.ht m which can be configured without a pre-installed OS for a $75 discount (and they claim it is compatible with Linux).
  • Dios mio!
  • Did a litlle research on XFree 4.0.2 man pages. here's what I found:

    "i810 is an XFree86 driver for the Intel i810 family of
    graphics chipsets. The driver supports depths 8, 15, 16
    and 24. All visual types are supported in depth 8, other
    depths only support TrueColor. The driver supports hard
    ware accelerated 3D via the Direct Rendering Infrastruc
    ture (DRI), but only in depth 16."

    Now we just have to find out what sound chip it uses.


  • Looks like these things have been available for a little while now, so I'm curious if anyone here actually has one?

    I'd be particularly interested in the noise levels; does it run as silent as you might expect from a box this small, or is it noisy? I've seen (heard) many examples of horribly noisy laptops (especially the CD-ROM is often bad). With the CPU fan obviously being mounted under the grille at the top there, I'd think this one has the potential for being even noisier. Anyone?
  • Hey, the specs are nearly the same, except the GeForce3 chip. Why can't MS do the same, i.e., a smaller size X-box instead of this gigantic monster?

  • I hate to tell everyone but this is old news. I have had one of these for a couple months now. I think they are rather nice little pices. They make great in car MP3 players (thats what I use mine for).

  • if the computer is indeed that small then it wont be long until you see it inside someones lower-abdomen on an X-ray. most likely on steakandcheese or another of the like.. ;) Mike .

    ________________________________________________ __
  • Oh, dont forget crazysh*t.com as well. thats another classy site Mike

    ________________________________________________ __
  • What would really float my boat would be TWO ethernet ports. In order to provide additional security to my servers, I have private and public interfaces. No write services allowed via public interfaces attached to the internet. Write and monitoring services allowed via private interfaces to intranet. If these suckers had two ethernet ports they would be worth their cubic volume in gold.
  • At about 6 inches square and over 2 inches thick and weighing over 2 lb, "rat" would seem more appropriate.

    Better?

  • Size of a Mouse? (Score:5)

    by localroger ( 258128 ) on Sunday June 03, 2001 @01:31PM (#179726) Homepage
    At almost 150mm square and 50mm thick and weighing almsot 1 Kg, "rat" would seem more appropriate.
  • umm... looks like most of the hardware is pretty normal stuff, so It should not be a real problem to get linux working on it, or what?

    the motherboard and video card might be pretty strange, though. Even though it is based on the Intel 810, it might be reduced in size and functionality. However I've never heard about this company before, and I would be pretty surprised if they had gotten microsoft to adapt w2k to this toy.

    My _guess_ is that it should be pretty easy to set linux up on this box. However, that should not be the main reason for buying one of theese units.

    well.. anyway, I actually think my Ipaq with linux is way cooler than this rather large box without screen.

  • Heh... (Score:3)

    by Scoria ( 264473 ) <slashmail@ i n i t i a l i z e d.org> on Sunday June 03, 2001 @02:23PM (#179728) Homepage
    It's Slashdotted.

    (Mostly complete) mirror here. [initialized.org]

    I don't know what good this thing is without a display, which kills the 'portability' feature.

  • That's because you need to translate from Portugese and not Spanish...
  • It just blended into the rest of the ignorance that IS /.
  • Err, isn't 'ano' simply 'year'? Obviously, therefore, a *year* of anus. Some people.

  • Try one of these [ti.com] to change 12V into 5v instead of the free-built-in-coffee-warmer 7805. They generally do not need a heat sink. It'll set you back $20, though. They also have higher current units, but they aren't drop-ins (space permitting) for the 7805. You can buy them at Digi-Key [digikey.com].

  • Capaccino discussed before here on Slashdot (Score:5)

    by herderofcats ( 409703 ) on Sunday June 03, 2001 @01:41PM (#179733)
    This appears to be a Spanish language relabeling of SaintSong's Capaccino computer www.cappuccinopc.com [cappuccinopc.com].

    This unit and its smaller sibling have been discussed before on Slashdot -- it's smaller sibling is called Expresso was discussed http://www.slashdot.org/articles/00/04/18/2326253. shtml [slashdot.org].

    There is a review of the unit at http://203.120.86.4/products/hwharddrive/story/0,2 000008984,20199957,00.htm [203.120.86.4].

    I did end up purchasing one of the Capaccino's -- nice unit, 1Ghz PIII, 20Gig HD, DVD, 512K RAM, ethernet, etc. Has pretty much everything I wanted but a 3D chip. Since it takes so little space, but can't be a game machine for me, I use it as a very portable server.

    -- Herder of Cats

  • No-one was going to call you dumb, just ignorant. And you've just proved that. thanks!
  • Dear you: Your post has already been forwarded to all major Portuguese newspapers. If you're planning to spend your vacations in Portugal in the near future, please be advised that your photo was acquired through this new 21st century technology that we call "liberdade artistica da treta". It is on all major discos, bars and stuff. You will not get any sex. As you might or might not now, the feudal system here in Portugal allows every citizen to cut foreigners limbs and assorted parts and throw them at the beasts that live in the sewers. In addition to that I will make my worst at convincing all Portuguese ISP's to provide you with a slow-as-hell net connection... you will think that everything has been slashdoted... Support bacteria -- it's the only culture some people have.
  • And your point being?
    You guys call "keyboard" to "teclado" and we at Portugal don't think that's even slightly funny!!
    ;-)
  • Every time a company says "the smallest computer around", I guess /. runs a story on it. If v r really looking at the evolution of small computers, probably v should be looking at wearable computers themselves. Not at a groups of chips put together, and called as a cool device. There is more to miniaturisation than minimising the board size. Look at what people are doing on expressive footwear [mit.edu] for instance.
  • *bonk*

    From the page:
    Placa de Rede Embedded 10/100Mbps (RJ-45 Port)

    Which translates to, embedded 10/100. :)
  • how much does one of those cappachino machines cost?
  • but I've yet found a board that takes just a single 12V.

    I doubt you'll find one. Converting DC voltages wastes a lot of energy to heat, something you can't usually afford in a portable.

    I'd be more worried about the auto's power supply... take a look at the kind of power filtering required for mobile CB or hi-fi, for example. If you're going to purchase/build such a filter, it would be simpler to just be sure it has the output voltages and capacity your application requires.


  • If only the manufacturers of these micro-pc's would stop puting built-in ethernet and modems, and just put a pcmcia slot so you can connect it via the wireless tech of your choice, I'd buy one.
  • It fits in your head.

    You are the stupidest person in the world. Even for a troll, your unintelligence is unmatched. You truly are the WEAKEST TROLL!

  • My, how utterly moronic of you.

    Notice I never said I was a "gamer" - or even mentioned games, first off. I said - or rather implied - I was a homebrewer / LAN freak. In reality, I am a gamer - but certainly not of the persuasion that you think. I haven't played a retail or arcade system since about the launch of the PSOne. People like me - people who dislike your crapass FPS shooters and crave *real* gameplay - have been forced to become retrogamers, running emulators to play our forgotten classics. RockNES and ZSNES, along with Raine and MAME, for the most part, should run just fine on a Celeron. In any case, assumptions make an ass out of you, and, well, you.

    Hmmm. I'll assume that you meant Celeron's were *not* cool anymore - and I suppose they aren't, if you desperately need speed. (Poor spelling is a sign of poor breeding. Try previewing your post.) I don't particularly, as I am not of the aforementioned gamer persuasion. A box this small for me would mean a rather interesting thin client - mods I've been thinking of so far are making a 6 by 3 box with a 5 inch LCD for it, or perhaps integrating it with a keyboard, kind of like a laptop with no screen. (Think Neuromancer - Oh wait, you probably can't read too well, judging by the intellect you've just displayed. Try getting the audio book of Neuromancer.)

    As for the GeForce, I won't be getting one - not that I couldn't at this size. With a slightly bigger case, if you're at all familiar with either the MicroATX or FlexATX form factors, you'll notice PCI slots are easy to come by in small boxen. Not quite as small as this, though - but hey, as I'm not the "gamer" you so desperately want me to be, who cares?

    As for your idea that this is a custom kit - I highly doubt it. Besides the fact that it uses all standard parts *except* for the mainboard, I'd assume that the motherboard could be found by in some cheapo etailers stock, simply because it isn't that innovative. It's a tiny motherboard with no AGP and an Intel 815 chipset. Small motherboards are nothing new. I've seen cases that are just about this size running celery 533's.

    So let's see - you assumed I was a gamer, and made an ass of yourself. You assumed I'm a newbie - nope, wrong again sweetmeat. You assumed that I haven't got more case mods under my belt than you have peach fuzz on your chin. Three strikes, you're out.

    Waiiiiiit a minute - I get it! You looked up at the member info, figured I'd just signed up because I heard of this really K-RAD L1NUX SITE D00D and I was open to attack.

    Nice try, tough guy. Step away from mommy's IMac before you get hurt.

    --avtr

  • Damn. Well, no use arguing when I fell for it that badly.

    (feeling sheepish for getting trolled *that* bad)

    --avtr
  • There's one big problem with this thing (well, probably more, but this is the one that hit me hardest): it costs an arm and a leg.

    Does anyone know what the mainboard in this beast is? With a motherboard that small, us LAN party type people could buy it and do the rest ourselves... I mean, a Celeron and a DIMM are lying next to me right now, and I'm sure I could get a laptop cd-rom for cheaper than that. Someone ID that mainboard!

    --avtr
  • Although it would be sexy, you would be paying for alot of hardware you would never use... ie. vga, svideo, modem etc..

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