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Posted by emmett from the this-will-be-great-in-my-batcave dept.
Rackemup writes: "For those days when you're thinking to yourself, 'Y'know, one monitor just doesn't cut it anymore... I wish there was a way to hook up a bunch of LCD screens to my computer. Check out the MassMultiples website. Now you can hook up two, three, four or more 18" lcd screens to your pc! Custom configurations, low footprint, and not a price to be found anywhere on the web site. Like anyone cares how much they would cost ..." Update: 05/04 02:17 by H : I actually saw their quad system last week -- it looks really, really good -- quality work.
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  • I'll take that custom job of 8 18" displays please, yes with the infrared keyboard and mouse... a camera? Sure why not! Um, I'll take them in a metallic green color please. What do I need them for? Why to play Quake III, Unreal, and Diablo 2 when it comes out of course. That and look at the most porn I can in the smallest amount of time.

  • Pricing? (Score:3)

    by seebs ( 15766 ) on Thursday May 04, 2000 @08:09AM (#1091083) Homepage
    I saw no pricing info on the web site. Anyone got some?
  • Ahhhhh, finally I can read slashdot, play quake, and download my pr0n with gnutella all at once. (while avoiding the wall of shame of course)

    Slight rant follows, skip to next comment if you don't want to hear ranting:
    I just have to question, is this really stuff that matters? I mean sure it may be a slow news day but is a link to a commercial site really worthy of our esteemed /. ? They've got news over at Kuro5hin.org [kuro5hin.org]...

    Anyhow, keep up the good news.


    -Mad Dreamer
  • ...are pretty neat. I've been running two 19" iiyama monitors on a Matrox G400 MAX (under Win 2000) for a few months, and, for a developer, it's downright indispensible. App on one side, debugger on the other, or multiple source files simultaneously...it's really spoiled me to the point that I could never go back to a single screen (which means I'm nuts whenever I'm on the laptop). By far the most interesting thing, however, is the gaming capability that the monitors provide. Multiple views are supported in some games (mostly Microsoft ones: FS2000, Baseball 2000, etc.), but, unfortunately, not too many companies are providing such support, and the display falls back to the single, PRIMARY display. Still, I think this has been the most enjoyable upgrade that I have ever made. If you've got the desk real estate, you can get the CRTs pretty cheaply...of course, if you've got the deep pockets, go get that quad.

  • Re:Pricing? (Score:5)

    by cgori ( 11130 ) on Thursday May 04, 2000 @08:31AM (#1091086) Homepage Journal
    I asked a while ago. Here is some info

    5) Currently, they all come in black, however we can change the color to your liking, we will need either CMYK # or Pantone #. An extra fee of $400 U.S per unit will be added, unless your order is big, then we can discuss discount.

    4) Depends on the number of units ordered, all the 18" line is ready to be shipped with a two weeks from day of order.

    3) Single 18" has 1280 X 1024 resolution, if you meant aggregate resolution, then dual 18" will display 2560 X 1024 horizontal. For the triple 18", total aggregate resoultion will be 3840 X 1024

    2) Dual 18" is $6,695.00
    Triple 18" $9,995.00
    Dual 15" is $2,995.00 (four weeks lead time)
    Triple 15" $4,895.00 (also four weeks lead time)
    ALL PRICES ARE IN U.S

    1) If the sun graphics cards have VGA (2 X 15-pin D-sub for analog RGB) then it will work.
    You will need a dual video card or two separate video card.

  • repeat topic (Score:1)

    by Anonymous Coward
    Wasn't this posted several months ago?
  • Matrox has standard dual cards and a line of semicustom quad cards. Good luck getting the quad, ours have been on order for months, but they are out there.

    The last I saw XFree86 didn't like the duals, but the quad cards are just four single controllers glued down with a PCI bridge and should work fine with XFree86.

  • Re:I'll take.... (Score:2)

    by Anonymous Coward
    That would be cool to play Quake with at least five of those flat screen monitors mounted so you can see up, down, and to the sides as well as looking forward. If you could see your feet you wouldn't have to take faith that your on-line player won't fall off the edge of the cliff you're trying to skirt.

    Multiple panels would be useful in the work environment as well. My ideal office would look like one of those maintenance pod spaceships in 2001, the one with the claws and stuff. My desk would have all these glowing monitors everywhere, beeping and pinging and projecting an ethereal video glow on my face. It's especially important for the sound effects to be shrill and peircing and the video look like slide screen projections. At least I think so.

    -Derrick
  • In the same vein, Matrox demoed the Matrox G200/MMS, an AGP G200 with *four* DVI outputs on it. Not quite the same as MassMultiple's displays, but the result is similar. :)

    Go to Matrox's website [matrox.com] to get more details.

  • Is it? I mean, isn't it the same as hooking up a bunch of monitors to your computer? All you need is one video card per monitor. Let's say I have an Apple Cinema Display 22" LCD hooked up to my Power Mac G4's AGP DVI port. Then I can add another video card (say, an ATI Xclaim VR 128) in a PCI slot and hook up some LCD to that. Then add another video card (like a Voodoo3 3000) and hook up some odd LCD to that. Oh yeah, add one last video card (a Matrox dual-display card) to the last PCI slot and add TWO LCDs to that! that's five LCD monitors! Then just casually turn on the Mac and all five LCDs turn on simultaneously, with the primary LCD showing the Mac logon screen. When the desktop and icons appear, you'll see the default pattern appear on the other four monitors. Open the Monitors control panel and you'll see five monitors.. just lay them out in whatever way you want, pick a primary menu screen, set the resolutions/colors for each. Heck, pick a desktop picture for each one too while you're at it. Hint: try opening Photoshop and creating a desktop picture that spreads across five monitors! Easy, huh? No damn DLLs or other crap. The Mac will automatically detect the manufacturer hardware signature from each LCD and set its capabilities (no files needed). Like I mentioned, it's really not that difficult; just depends on what system you're running on and if you have the money to buy all these LCDs =)

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  • I've been running with a 17" a 15" and a 21" monitors hooked up to my Mac for years.

    I look forward to installing OS X (and getting a real OS,) on my G3 but, while flat screens are neat 'cause they don't eat your desktop for breakfast and leave you balancing a tablet on your knees, multiple heads is old hat to anybody in the Visual arts.

    Get over it guys.

    Next miracle, please :-)
  • That would be the iiyama visionmaster 450? Yup, I got one.. veeery spiffy. Heafty price tag though, but suburb quality. I'm using a Guillemot GeForce right now, and I'm hoping to get my Matrox Millenium II slotted in with another iiyama soon. Excellent, excellent monitors.
  • This is sooo handy! Finally, I can put a screen in every room in my house. Now I just wish that they I could hook up multiple keyboards (with really long wires). Then I could really use my computer in the bathroom or the kitchen.
    I guess I will have to stick with watching the screensaver for now.
  • Vastly O/T: I'm in the market for a couple of new 21s.. How would the highend iiyama compare to say, an IBM made Trinitron tubed 21 or one of the standard SOG units off of an Octane2?
  • back in 1990, i had a 386SX16, and 2 video cards, one vga 256k, and one hercules (that i replaced with a CGA one) and two monitors, and i used Turbo Debuguer with the 2 displays, pretty cool, my app running on the vga, and the debuguer on the hercules :)
    it still work i think, the point is to have a videocard buffer on B800, and one on B000 iirc which is the B&W one, so there's no overlap, even on bios, one on C000 and the others on i don't remember.
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  • Another old article. (Score:5)

    by joeytsai ( 49613 ) on Thursday May 04, 2000 @09:04AM (#1091097) Homepage
    This article was posted almost a year ago. Archived story [slashdot.org].
  • "Holy liquid crystal diodes, Batman! What IS that thing?"

    "This? Oh, this is our new Quake rig, Robin. Let's see j0KK3r frag me now!"

  • Why do businesses insist on keeping their prices under lock and key? I have no desire to interact with their sales staff, much less be on someone's email list. Don't they realize that consumers can and will go somewhere more convenient?
  • It is certainly News for Nerds, though I don't know if it's Stuff that Matters. After all, $10k for the 3x18" panels? I haven't got that kind of cash.

    But I am getting a bit worn down by the Kuro5hin and theGEEK trolling. Slashdot has bigger and better news than either of those sites. Sorry.

    K5 tends to have pretty obscure suff, and theGEEK isn't much better. Typically, those sites are either on /.'s heels with 'real' news, or they make a *splat* when they feature a 'hit'. At least on a slow day, /. makes a big old THUD. :)

    Now, that's not saying that /. is fine, it's definitelly gotten very diluted since 'the buyout'. I'd love to know what our esteemed hosts do with their (paid for) time, since the content was much better back when it was all a labour of love. But at least /. is a lot more sophisticated than either of the two upstarts who keep trying to advertize in the trailing edge of people's posts here.

  • Re:It really isn't that difficult.... (Score:3)

    by psmX ( 171753 ) on Thursday May 04, 2000 @09:42AM (#1091101)
    Multiple monitors are VERY old hat. The Mac II could have a maximum of 7 monitors connected at once. This was back in 1986. If there were dual spigot Nubus cards one could have gone higher. With the PCI based Macs one could connect at least 14 monitors (expansion chassis and a bunch of dual (quad?) spigot cards). M$ introduced this a new feature in 1998. Can Linux do this? What is new and interesting about the vendor is that they are marketing this. This has been done for such a long time it is interesting that someone is seeing this as something that is about to take off. Multiple Monitors have been used by professionals for a long time but does this mean that these guys think the concept has a broader appeal? -PSM

  • Bah! Humbug! (Score:3)

    by jabber ( 13196 ) on Thursday May 04, 2000 @09:47AM (#1091102) Homepage
    Yeah, multiple screens. Nifty.

    It's no Fakespace [fakespace.com].
  • Yup, I've got a G400 Max Dual and I haven't had any luck getting XF86 to do a second monitor yet.

  • Re:No Prices (Score:3)

    by pete-classic ( 75983 ) <hutnick@gmail.com> on Thursday May 04, 2000 @09:49AM (#1091104) Homepage Journal
    When it comes to bargaining, whoever says a number first loses.

    In retail, you always lose. (have you ever been haggled UP in price at walmart?)

    Many companies that are Quasi-retail (like these guys) try to hold the price close, so they can make as much as they can.

    This is not surprising, really. With this type of product you can't pop into "the other guy's" store to see what he charges, so you have to be careful trying to sense what the market will bear.

    I am sure that they feel that the business that they lose (yours) is outweighed by what they would lose (in prices and business) if they did "up front pricing." (with apologies to GM Service Plus.)

    -Peter



    Slashdot cries out for open standards, then breaks them [w3.org].
  • As it says - isn't this somewhat akin to a text/X console? I would expect this wouldn't be too hard to rig up under Linux...
  • Yes, yes, the shame of it: I still run Win98 as my desktop machine.

    One of the cool features of Win98 was the ability to have more than one monitor. (It was about time they added that feature.) So I got an extra network card and another 17" monitor, and I had more desktop space than I knew what to do with.

    However, there was a serious problem: my mouse wasn't responding quickly enough. It was taking too long to get between the monitors.

    Now, being a former Mac person, I immediately went to go find something like "TurboMouse" for Windows, which would speed up my mouse past the MS speed limit. No such luck. (Anyone know of such a utility?)

    This speed limit problem was made all the more difficult by my IBM trackpoint keyboard. That keyboard was wonderful for my carpal tunnel (no more braces), but the movement is pretty sluggish. My right-hand pointer finger was now in pain most of the time.

    Anyway, so now I'm back to one monitor and a Cirque keyboard that has a trackpad underneath the arrow keys. It's okay, but I'd give anything for a really responsive trackpoint keyboard and two monitors again.

    Okay, okay, not anything, but maybe $200 or so.

    -- Diana Hsieh

  • Finally, someone decides to invent a rack capable to support more than one display, wow!!!

    X-Window is capable to support more than one screen for a long time ago. Only XFree86 didn't include such a support since the last release. However, I remember one of my customer using 4 CRTs back in 1993. It's a very nice feature for huge systems real-time monitoring.

  • I decomissioned my 4 headed Mac 7100 a long time ago (something like 6 years now I think). It is a comment on the Wintel platform that this stuff would even be remotely considered news. But who am I to stand in the way of Bill Gates and innovation (like using the control key instead of the alt key in the copy command...)
  • We just got a new G4 in our (exclusively Win95) department for video editing and I got a second video card with it so I could hook up an extra monitor we had. Everyone was blown away with how easy it was and how nice to use.
  • The iiyama monitors use Mitsubishi's DiamondTron Natural Flat tube. I have an NEC 17" flatscreen made with a DiamondTon NF and the quality is spectacular. The IBM and SGI monitors are AFAIK nothing but high priced rebadged Sony monitors, which use Sony's Flat Display Trinitron tube. The differences between the FD Trinitron and DiamondTron NF are very slight, from what I remember when I was buying the NEC, the DiamondTron was a bit darker and had richer colors, but the Trinitron might have been a little sharper. I have seen the iiyama VisionMaster 450, and it is amazing, the IBM and SGI are probably no different than the Sony monitors. If you want to check out the tube difference, most stores carry the Sony FD line and the NEC FE/FP line. All of the monitors that you mention are of the top 1% of monitor quality anyway, so any of them should be fine for whatever you plan on doing with them.

  • I remember seeing someone use an additional moniter to scroll through his source code while the program output to the first moniter.

    That was roughly ten years ago, on an old mac.

  • I'm working on a NEC flat tube now. At 1600x1200 it gets a bit fuzzy, but the color range is good. The single SGI I have stays 100% crisp (you can see crisp pixels at 16x12 on a Matrox), but the colors can get slightly washed. Imperceptable unless you just had a look at the NEC. Thanks!
  • One of the things to think about is how much nicer it would be to run large multiple LCDs of your Mac/PC (and Linux too!).. consider the footprint and weight advantage. I have a 22" Mitsubishi Diamond Plus 200 which has a flat screen (CRT) and great sharpness/contrast. HOWEVER the damn thing ways 77 lbs!!!! I needed help lifting it and I had doubts about how to sit it my glass/metal desk. I usually run a dual monitor setup but I doubt the glass would hold over 144 lbs of equipment. Would you sit your 144 lb. pal on your glass desk? Hell no. In contrast, a 22" Apple Cinema Display LCD ways about 25 lbs. The problem is the cost. The heavy-ass Mitsubishi costs $899 while the slim and sleek Apple LCD costs $2999. Also I'm very doubtful that most LCD manufacturers can produce a flawless screen in big yields. It is very difficult to build a large LCD without any "stuck" pixels. And, unless this process is refined, prices will stay high and demand will never increase.

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  • Multiple monitors are GREAT. I developed on a Mac 9600 a few years ago with dual 21" monitors. It didn't leave much space on the desk but it is really easy to get used to following the mouse from one window to another, and monitor real estate is like drive space, you can never have enough.

    What do Mass really give you? I can't see this going too far.

    >MASS Multiples ship as a complete solution: No need to find, purchase and assemble proprietary mounting arms, discreet LCD monitors, video cards and special driver software from various vendors to arrive at a solution

    i.e. It comes as WE like it - we hope that's how YOU like it.

    >The modular design provides easy set-up, servicing and upgrading

    How could it be any simpler? It still has one VGA connector per display. Is sharing a power cable that much of an advantage?

    >Each display is able to tilt and book to achieve optimal viewing position

    i.e. same as if you bought discrete monitors

    >Superior image clarity, brightness, and color reproduction result from the use of the best LCD and electronic components in the market

    Go out and choose the best yourself. What they think is best might not match what you personally prefer. Monitors are very subjective, just like speakers.
    (And if you want to know my personal choice, it's the Sony GDM-F500. As flat as any LCD, half the price, and no restrictions on which resolutions look good. 100Hz refresh isn't really hard to take.)

    >Analog interface facilitates use with most video cards

    Not a particularly unique feature.

    >Apple Macintosh compatible

    Neither is this.

    >MASS will protect your monitor investment by providing a liberal trade-up policy that provides credit on any returned MASS multiple for the purchase of your next MASS display system or display system addition

    Can't see this business model working - what good is this if they go out of business through a too-liberal upgrade policy?

    >MASS will arrange 3rd party leasing to make your purchase as enjoyable as working in front of our monitors

    No big advantage there. Lots of places will lease you anything.

    >All monitors can be purchased separately or bundled with a high performance multi-output display adapter

    Let me guess which one that would be! Not too many dual head cards out there. And any number of places will sell me video cards and monitors at one time. Are they suggesting their combinations are CHEAPER? I doubt it.
  • I remember YEARS ago, at a Macworld Expo, GraphSim demoed F/A-18 Hornet (which was mac-only at the time) running on a Quadra 840AV (so this was about 1993) on four monitors - one for front view, one for each side, and one for the instruments below, as I recall. It was pretty damned cool, both as a demo of what a well writtten game can take advantage of, and what the Mac OS could do way back then. Unfortunately, Hornet 3.0 was released for both Mac and Windows, and they removed the multi-monitor capability from the Mac version... oh well.
  • This isn't a question of, "Can Linux do this?". It's a question of, "Can the X Window System do this?". The answer is yes (for both questions, I might add).

    Use the Accelerated-X server. They sell one that handles multiple monitors. I haven't checked it in a few years, but I had multiple monitors under Linux back in 1996. I think XF86 does it, too, but it's a pain in the ass to configure.

    For the record, I think this was introduced to the X Window System way back in the late 80s. I'm getting old, so my memory ain't so great, but it seems like I remember seeing multiple monitor setups udner X as early as '88.
  • Sheesh, you think that we've either run out of geek news or there is a plot to shen slashdot by submitting old stories...

    -p.

  • Re:Multiple monitors... (Score:1)

    by Anonymous Coward
    At Cebit 2000 I saw a lcd from Mermaid Computers, which had 4 screens in one. It required a special graphics card but it worked fine. it was like those "big screens" they have in the tv stores which is 9 tv's placed in a square, just with only 4 screens. They said that it would with the next driver be possible to have one window to grow to all screens, and that way use it as a big screen for presentations and stuff like that. The idea of having this instead of just one 34" screen is that each screen will run in a high resolution like 1024x768. That means 4 x 1024x768 and not just 1 x 1024x768 in large..... I was impressed until they told me that they would not make Linux drivers for the graphics adaptor :(
  • or would it be a Vision Master PRO 450... real bute, only PITA is that I have mine box setup on the dining table, like im gonna go put this beast of a monitor on some crappy desk in my room.., moved it to eat once, got a small chip in the screen!! eek, so I got the brasso out and used the old wives tale of brasso removing small chips and scratches from glass, glass that is without an antistatic/antireflection layer on it, now have a slightly bigger mark on the screen, of course still have the chip..... whoops!!
  • I used to work for STB Systems, who were a fairly major video board manufacturer until they were bought by 3dfx. They made the 'MVP'. It came in two- and four-port versions, and you could put up to four in a system (meaning a single system could drive up to 16 monitors). We had Win31 and OS/2 drivers to support a virtual screen of 1xn, nx1, 2x2, and 4x4 configurations. This was back in the '92 timeframe....

    The product is still available at http://www.stbstg.com/mvppro.htm [stbstg.com] (3dfx spun off the 'specialized technologies' to a new company, Enseo).

  • Setting up multihead under XF86 isn't terrible. Run the X binary with the --configure flag, alter one or two lines (screen placement) and copy the autogenerated config to /etc/X11..

    No problem!
  • the matrix code screen saver of course!!.... woooooooo

  • If we have trouble with old articles now, what will happen in ten years when the net is overstuffed with documents? How are we going to know what was made when, and if it's out of date? Sometimes there is a date on a website, but others are long dead, and it's difficult to tell how long they've been sitting around. Imagine the same slashdot stories being posted years apart because no one remembers the originals? Perhaps links will simply die? How many web pages from '96 still exist today? Should we be archiving web pages, lest we end up with a web memory of only 4 years?
  • This was posted to Slashdot a few months back. The web site has changed, but it's the same product. You should check for past posts before.
  • funny how on the Cave system, they mention that it "looks impressive" as a selling point. yes it does, in fact, look impressive. i just didn't realize that was one of the more important points.... hehe.
  • Metro-X also has multi-head support. I'm currently in the middle of setting up 40+ 2 or 3 monitor machines.

    XFree86 4.0 introduced this support as well.
  • seems like I remember seeing multiple monitor setups udner X as early as '88.

    We were running some multi-headed machines back in early 1987, but if I recall right X treated each of them as a different display (foo:0, foo:1 etc). This was under X10, not X11. Might have been with X11 that came the ability to treat them as two views onto a single virtual display.

  • Actually, I have the 450 Pro series. They're both quite flat and black, and render tack-sharp images. The only real gripes I have about them are:

    1. bizarre interference I get if they are setup to run at the same frequency (they are right next to each other, and I get a moving scan line at regular intervals, one moving UP one monitor, and one moving DOWN the other, in a synchronized manner). I just make them run slightly offset.

    2. the face bezels are wide enough that the center area between the screens freaks me out when something is split between the two displays. I saw some people running monitors with the bezels and cases removed, but it was just too weird.

  • the thing posted [slashdot.org] awhile back about connecting multiple flatscreens seamlessly? It seems to me that this multi-screen thing is just a step backward from that.

    Also, while I can see some applications where having multiple phisical screens might be good, why not just deal with the nice multiple logical screens in X? For one, it certainly costs less. Your eyes can normally only focus on a small area at a time anyway. I find myself thinking that I have multiple screens, because I just substituted rolling my mouse over the edge of the current screen for turning my head. I've fully integrated with my virtual screens. I like it. I feel limited now in yet another way when I have to deal with a windoze machine.
  • Maybe I just have a sicker (read: juvenile) sense of humor than most, but doesn't MassMultiples.com sound just a little too much like a Pr0n site?
  • I work for a leasing company, and have my pick of year old equipment. We have a dozen skids of unused IBM monitors from the Air Force coming in Thursday and a shitload of SGI on hand. I'm not terribly worried about warranty ;) Just wondering whether the 'state of the art' was so much terribly better than what I am accustomed to..
  • Heh, I didn't think of it that way.
    But then again, would anyone buy a VR system that didn't LOOK impressive? That's their whole point. :)
  • I'm getting awfully worn down by the trolling that goes on "in the name of" Kuro5hin here too. I *really* wish it would stop. It's always nice when someone mentions K5 in a good way, but I hate appearing in the trolls. For the record, they do not represent my site.

    FWIW, though, have to disagree with you about being on /.'s heels with news. Typically it takes much longer on K5 between "story breaks" and "story goes up on page", due to moderation. Meanwhile, any registered user can see it though. Take a look back a bit-- for stories that K5 and /. both cover, we're first at least as often as they are, and I suspect more often. I'm not sure what you mean about *splat*'s though. That was a little unclear.

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  • I was doing this under DesQview/386 with a VGA and a CGA card sitting on an ISA bus. Since they don't share the same video memory addresses, it was easy. I used the VGA for anything pretty, and ran a text console on the CGA, with a little window open on the side showing my memory stats, system load, and modem indicators.

    Ha!
  • Using multiple LCD screens is a good idea, but is actually behind the times. If you are really looking for something to help your eyes and with better resolution, so with a projector. For about the same cost as these multiple LCD screens you can get one or even two high res projectors.

    There are multiple ways to mount them and they actually look good projecting onto even a normal white wall (of course a screen are better). After using one of these you'll never want to go back.
  • Whoa dude, thats my favorite one too, it would also like cool with pyro!
  • Bleh, 'tis likely worse! I don't buy things that call themselves "State of the art".. it rarely applies to more than the art on the 4 color glossies they put out.

    Buy stuff on the specs / reviews, and then tweak the crap out of it. My desktop is so wierd I doubt anyone but me could get much past login! :)

  • IIRC from some reading I've done abt the evolution of the human eye, it's designed for sustained distance vision and only occasional close-to-the-face focusing. We tool-obsessed homo digitens are inverting the proportions.

    What's more, an optometrist tells me that there's a marked increase in nearsightedness over the last couple hundred years or so. Apparently the change in shape of the eyeball that causes nearsightedness is partly due to the fact that we've gotten taller in the last few generations with better nutrition and health care. Sounds like a total sea story to me, but hey, it's worth a think.

  • The *splat* referred to the amount of follow-up to a story. There is much less discussion following a story posting, and the discussion doesn't seem to add much value.

    Maybe that's just a function of the number of people on the site though. I'd be curious to know how many registered users, and daily visitors there are at K5.

    When /. posts a story, there is huge follow-up. If the story is angled at a particular interest-group (KDE, Security, NASA) there is a lot of valuable information that is contributed by posters. If /. misfires and posts divvel or fluff, there is ample flamage to serve as entertainment.

    Maybe I'm just not configuring K5 right just yet, but the comments on the stories tend to be opinions on wether the story is good and worth posting, or not. Seems moot, since I've already seen the story, right? Am I missing something?

    Please educate me, preferably in the above URL forum, as I would like to see why so many 'K5 zealots' push it so hard. They post intelligently otherwise, so I must be missing something.
  • Ok, your url has 2 links. one for free bsd, and the other is an email. Where are the pics of the system?
  • Who needs all dat p0rn crap when all you really need is multiple desktops, dvd, and Quake (plus a bitchin' sound system of course). These monitors do seem a bit overpriced though.
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  • I remember YEARS ago, at a Macworld Expo, GraphSim demoed F/A-18 Hornet (which was mac-only at the time) running on a Quadra 840AV (so this was about 1993) on four monitors ...

    Cool. id Software's game "Doom" (remember that?) did something like this, too. If you had two extra PCs, you could position them left, center, and right, network them using IPX, and run the same game on all three. About as close to VR as first-person-shooters have gotten on the PC. :-)

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