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clod (Score:5, Funny)
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i ken reed butt i kent rite
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Old Russian joke... anthropologist visits Chukcha tribe, and is interviewing them for their tribal roles and duties.
"So, you read?"
"No. Chukcha no read. Chukcha write"
Re:clod (Score:5, Funny)
A: Why do Bulgarian policemen always go around in threes?
B: Dunno. Why?
A: One knows how to read, and one knows how to write.
B: What's the third one for?
A: He's keeping an eye on the two intellectuals.
Ye olde police jokes (Score:4, Funny)
A: One knows how to read and the other how to write
Q: Why do you sometimes see them in threes
A: One know how to read and write and the other two are protecting the genius
Russian humour (Score:2)
Hey Sergei! Long time no see! Is that a wedding ring?
Yes my old friend, it is a wedding ring.
I never thought that you of all people get married.
Well, I got tired of eating at McDonalds.
And now..?
And now I like eating at McDonalds.
By the bye, I learned Russian to read Tolstoi in the original and I discovered that the transalation
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By the bye, I learned Russian to read Tolstoi in the original and I discovered that the transalation is better.
Are you Robert Heinlein?
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I can't read, you insensitive clod!
That's okay - most people on the internet can't write.
Slashdot (Score:5, Funny)
I get my news from Slashdot and powersauce bars.
Hmmm.. Deng Xiaoping died.
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Don't powersauce bars work like an energy drink and contain six different types of apples?
Shredded Newspaper (Score:2)
I think the joke is that it is supposed to contain mostly shredded newspaper (Simpsons).
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Re:Slashdot (Score:5, Informative)
18 September 2012
Dice Buys Geeknet's Media Business, Including Slashdot, In $20M Deal [slashdot.org]
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Well fuck me then I guess. Have a look at the date stamp on your AC post good sir, and then hazard a guess at where I got the date format from (Hint: it involves copy-pasta magic).
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Re:Slashdot (Score:2)
by Cenan (1892902) Alter Relationship on 2013-06-14 5:17 (#44005151)
Well fuck me then I guess. Have a look at the date stamp on your AC post good sir, and then hazard a guess at where I got the date format from (Hint: it involves copy-pasta magic).
That's your fault for setting your date format preferences.
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I guess it involves formatting to some local setting
There's a setting for date/time if you're logged in. I havn't messed with it, so I guess the 18 september 1999 is default for where /. thinks I am.
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I heard the "spell it out" limit was ten, not 100.
Self-hosted TT-RSS (Score:5, Informative)
TT-RSS [tt-rss.org] would seem to be perfect for Slashdot demographics. It definitely works great for me.
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Exactly what I use too. Gave me a push to finally set up a home server of my own.
By the way, anyone know how filters are supposed to work in tt-rss? The documentation is rather lacking.
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The UI runs fine on shared hosting, but if you can't either run a persistent daemon (recommended) or at least a cron job (and it can't be "webcron", since it needs the PHP CLI binary), it will only update the feeds when you have the reader open in your browser.
Personally, I think getting a cheap (less than $4/month) VPS on lowendbox is a better way than trying to force it on shared hosting.
http://tt-rss.org/redmine/projects/tt-rss/wiki/UpdatingFeeds [tt-rss.org]
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Poll talks (Score:4, Insightful)
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70% of "I don't use Reader", that explains why Google is discontinuing Reader [wikipedia.org].
I used to use Reader. It was a great way to listen to several different NPR programs without digging through 8 different websites (NPR has a different page for each program, each with a different format). Then the various NPR programs started changing what was in their feeds to the point where it wasn't useful anymore. I had other feeds I was using Reader for, but I haven't used Reader since then.
Re:Poll talks (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm surprised its as high as 30% saying they do.
Suggests that really, google should spin it off and let someone else run it. There's enough demand for it. If I had a startup with a product that 30% of /. cared about, I'd consider myself in pretty good shape.
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I suspect the number is actually much higher, but they just don't know it. The infrastructure was used by a lot of companies and apps.
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Google doesn't write standalone webapps like any startup out there; they use a bunch of proprietary backend technologies (for storage, HTTP fetching, etc). Prying that out of Reader would probably take as much effort as rewriting it using some other platform.
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The 30% is not 30% of Slashdot users. It is 30% of the people who felt inclined to respond to the poll. The number is likely that high because those who use the service are more inclined to respond to a poll that concerns the service. Always keep that in mind and always consider the verbiage in poll questions. Those are the two biggest ways to get confused. It is actually easy to construct a poll that will get you the results you want regardless of how people feel on the subject.
"Are you in favor of the fre
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I didn't think it necessary to preface my post with an explanation of why a poll on slashdot isn't all that statistically valid... on slashdot.
That said I agree with you that there is massive selection bias in who would choose to take the poll, that the audience who would even see the poll nevermind choose to partake is itself massive selection bias unto itself.
The point remains, a subtantial portion of slashdot knows what reader is, and a nontrivial subset of it actively uses it. Doesn't matter what the ac
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Somewhere in the thread I posted a list of links to folks who were interested in viable alternatives. (By the way, valid point about not needing to preface your post but it seemed like you were missing it given the tone of your post - to me at least, no slight was intended or anything.) If you seek out said post, CTRL + F and my name should find it, you may find something there that inspires you to create a service of your own or gives you insight into how others are reacting. I'm always one to advocate inv
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I vote in a lot of them. I'm not sure why.
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If could suggest that a lot of people don't actually care enough to vote.... I only clicked through because one of my housemates was complaining about it being shut down, and I was hoping to find a suggestion that'd be good enough to satisfy her...
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70% of geeks and nerds don't use Reader.
(On a side note, this poll needed another option: "What is Reader?"). I've never seen it.
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Google haven't created any impressions with this cancellation of Reader. They may however, be reinforcing existing impressions.
http://www.geekinsider.com/2013/03/22/visit-the-google-graveyard/ [geekinsider.com]
There's better links but the corporate proxy thinks pinterest.com is categorised as Malicious.
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More than 50% would probably answer "I don't use Twitter" too, or "I don't use [all but the most successful services]".
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Hmm, gotta love the oxymoron in that article..."loyal but declining"... Although I guess the decline could be due exclusively to deaths.
It could also be due to those with feelings of loyalty towards an advertising conglomerate's cloud-based software sought treatment and got the help they needed. :o)
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I believe the only products they really care about are the advertising ones.
The only ones they want to keep alive are those where people click on the Ad Words.
theoldreader (Score:5, Informative)
I favor the oldreader http://theoldreader.com/ [theoldreader.com]
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Here too. I like the simple uncluttered interface. Much like I liked Google Reader's interface.
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Well, that was extremely easy to get started with. But it appears to have subscribed to the enitre scienceblogs, rather than the one scienceblog that I subscribed to (Tim Lambert's Deltoid, which currently has 12 posts per year or so). Now I got page upon page of Orac's ramblings. And there appears to be no easy way in the inferface to shut him up.
First impression: Not good.
Chizled Stone Tablet (Score:2)
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"but when it comes to durability it's simply rocks!"
Fixed that for you.
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It may lose a bit in portability (but not to the Microsoft Surface) but when it comes to durability it simply rocks!
CST was my go-to portable device for eons, but I finally got fed up with the refresh rate and have since followed the expected upgrade path:
Clay Tablet -> Paypyrus -> Paper -> Laptop -> iPad
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Alt answer: (Score:1)
CowboyNeal's sonorous live reading.
RSS: a relic of the dialup era (Score:1)
Now that I have the bandwidth to visit and refresh all the sites I watch on a regular basis and addons [mozilla.org] that tell me when the tab has updated, I find myself relying on RSS less and less.
Re:RSS: a relic of the dialup era (Score:5, Insightful)
It's not bandwidth, it's volume.
I get feeds from a pile or research journals in my field. A typical day I can have 150 new items in the feed, perhaps 2-3 of which are actually of interest to me at the time. With a feed reader I can leaf through and pick out the few interesting ones in ten minutes. If I had to go to the site of each journal I'd spend half my morning doing the same.
Or say you're following tech sites such as Verge, Ars Technical and so on. Much faster to flip through all their new items and visit the ones that interest you than having to visit each site individually.
Finally, feeds are good for anything that updates irregularly. Since it's in your feed you can simply ignore it, and yet never risk missing an update. "XKCD What If", "WTF Evolution" and "Research In Progress" come to mind as perfect for this.
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I never relied on it, the entire notion seemed silly
I go out and pick which sites I want to scrape feeds from, they all collect stories in a half paragraph each on one page, then I click on the link to read the story taking me to the fucking site
why would I not just go to the site and not have to maintain a useless list that does nothing but make me go to the god damned site!
its pointless busy work
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You should read better feeds. Cropping is a sign of ad-driven content. Personally, well above 80% of my feeds include full content (either text or a link to a podcast).
If you only read spam spewing machines like Slashdot, it doesn't make much sense to use a feed reader. But if you also read that blog from the guy who only posts twice a month (at a random schedule) but whose posts are always a must-read, then RSS is extremely useful. It's even useful for some aggregators; for example, Lambda the Ultimate onl
Re:RSS: a relic of the dialup era (Score:4, Insightful)
For me RSS was not about bandwidth but time and distraction. Each site would suck me in with something I did not go there to look at.
I used to have 20-30 sites I would look at every day. Now I look at 1-2 and pick the stories that look interesting before I hit the site...
Went from 2-3 hours of surfing random pages I looked at every day to 15 mins and surfing for new stuff...
Liferea (Score:2)
I have always used liferea. I prefer a local client than a web based client. My computer can download all the feeds while I eat breakfast and then i can read them on the train (If i want to read more I can flag it for later). I actually use flagging of articles as a sort of bookmark system, most interesting things on the web I hear about through an rss feed.
iGoogle (Score:2)
Okay since no one used Reader, I have a question about another Google cancellation: What's a good replacement for iGoogle? I've used it as a handy little bag-of-holding with news headlines from a half dozen or so sources. It will be annoying to have to deal with the actual sites' home-pages, which, like all news websites, universally suck ass.
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Google+
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Doesn't even come close to iGoogle. The entire focus is different, you might as well have suggested Facebook or Twitter.
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Some similar customizations can be made with the Google news site. You could, I don't know if you still can, setup the main pages at Yahoo and MSN to be customized in a similar fashion. I imagine both of them have retained the features that enable that. You could probably forward your GMail to their service and get similar functionality with that. However, for the most part, you can do a lot of the same features just with the Google News customization functions ASSUMING that those too aren't going away. I h
I have the NSA... (Score:2)
I have the NSA read the news for me.
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The NSA would see a lot less hand-wringing if they offered their scanning and analysis abilities as a service to the public.
Hell, they have a record of my emails, my phone calls, my web surfing, my financial transactions. Pretty much everything I do electronically. Plus they apparently map out circles-of-acquaintances to determine social groups. I'm sure there are a myriad of services they could offer with all that information.
No ads plus Congressional oversight. That's more than you can say about Google or
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don't talk to me about the NSA, my hard drive crashed over the weekend. I called the NSA yesterday and they said they wouldn't send me their backup.
Cunts.
What's a news reader ? (Score:2)
Speaking of RSS readers.... (Score:2, Interesting)
Speaking of RSS readers, anyone got any suggestions for a replacement for the Google homepage (iGoogle) that they're dropping in November? It's the only RSS reader I've ever used, and I can't stand the interface of any other RSS reader I've ever seen. I don't want all my news in one feed, because some update monthly (or even less), some update twelve times an hour, some even update three times in one day then go silent for six months. So I want to see the latest updates from everything at a glance to know w
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http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3861059&cid=43999455 [slashdot.org]
what is it? (Score:2)
Behind a National Firewall... (Score:4, Interesting)
I'm behind a national firewall in the Middle East, and I still want access to feeds that are banned by my local government. Take your pick. Atheism. Politics. Religion. LGBT issues. Real news. I could get it all over Google Reader because it cached everything, images included, on the Google servers. Any software I install on my machine here would be on the wrong side of the curtain.
I have no idea. (Score:2)
I've never used Reader directly, I use it as a back-end for syncing my home RSS reader (RSS Owl) with my work RSS reader (NetNewsWire) so I don't have to remember which articles I've already read or not.
So far neither app has said what they'll support as a replacement back-end when Reader goes down, although the NetNewsWire folks have said they're doing something, just not what.
Feedly rocks! (Score:4, Interesting)
Works great on a browser, and on my Android device (Nexus 7). Too bad about Google Reader, I quite liked it.
the old reader (Score:2)
I tried feedly, but it only worked on chrome. so the old reader [theoldreader.com].
no cowboy neal option? (Score:2)
Outlook (Score:2)
I know this site is mainly anti-Microsoft, but Outlook is a damn good RSS reader. And the RSS feed gadget in Vista and Windows 7 is nice.
Browser (Score:2)
Same thing with Twitter. Sign up for more than one or two people and bloop you have another brain overloading flood. I have enough trouble keeping up with the output of SlashDot.
So for me my browser is one Reader and my E-Ink based device is my other Reader. Maybe my iPad too as it it OK at reading PDFs.
feedreader - local client (Score:2)
Vienna- no web middleman! (Score:2)
RSS was designed to be directly accessed by readers. I use Vienna, which pulls down the RSS feeds directly to my Mac. I don't see the point of using a middle man, who really is just going to try and find a way of monetizing my "marketing data".
Thanks to /. I've found CommaFeed (Score:2)
In a browser (Score:2)
http://theoldreader.com/ [theoldreader.com] gives an excellent experience of reader in a browser.
Thunderbird (Score:2)
Re:So what is it? (Score:5, Funny)
What is Google Reader? I've seen it mentioned several times on /. but nowhere else. I'm guessing this means it isn't something I'd have a use for anyway.
Google Reader is the best thing since the thing that was the best thing before sliced bread became the best thing was the best thing.
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Never heard of it. The results seem to indicate not many use it.
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I've heard of it but have no use for it. I'm not even sure what it does/did but I think it is an aggregation service via RSS. My browsers all offer RSS functionality but I haven't made us of that much though I used it when it was new and interesting simply because it was new and interesting. I've used RSS mashed up as a script with a CRON job to insert textual updates automagically into web sites but that's about the only use I have for it.
So, this poll, I marked that I didn't use it and am (strangely and o
Re:So what is it? (Score:5, Informative)
Never used it either. It sucked However 99% of all "RSS apps" for mobile phones, including the few that are worth anyone's time, use it for infrastructure.
This.
I never used Google Reader. However, I do use an RSS reader. And to keep in sync across the devices, my reader uses Google Reader infrastructure---as do most readers. That is, I keep my reading history "in the cloud", this being one of the things the cloud is good at.
So, Google did the RSS sync thing well, so well that everyone else used the infrastructure. Google Reader itself though was, at best, meh. Everyone else used the Google Reader infrastructure invisibly, so there was no contribution to Google's coffers.
Google could have competed with a better RSS client, but they didn't. Instead, they have killed their poor client and also their pretty good infrastructure. As far as I can tell, that's the reason people are upset. They don't care about Google Reader, but the loss of the syncing infrastructure is a problem.
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Correct.
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This.
Meme.
Sucks,
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Hard.
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It's a news aggregator... the progression of RSS/ATOM readers, if you will. I like them -- I get most of my news through random other places (like Slashdot), but for things that may slip by like rarely updated must-read blogs, I liked google reader. It's pretty easy to live without, but it did combine like 10 sites that I regularly hop around down to one link, which was helpful.
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I haven't used RSS readers since they were new and fashionable. I realized that it just didn't suit my methods of doing things. This isn't a slander against the technology, it just doesn't suit my particular methods and thus it doesn't suit my needs. I have found that I enjoy iGoogle though. It is located at https://google.com/ig [google.com] but, alas, it too is going away in November. So be it... I didn't use it enough to worry about it, I'd log in and check it for a few days in a row every couple of weeks with a brok
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Nice - thanks
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After my initial import, it stopped refreshing.
I tried to manually refresh it but that did not work, either.
Too bad because it looked like the perfect replacement.
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How..wasteful.
I read a rectangular thing that has access to almost all the information in the world.
Of course, some people read becasue they like to read, and some people read because they want to brag about their book collection.
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great, let me know what the breaking news is by reading a book written in 1980 and let me know how much bigger cockroach nest is, yea genius reader is for RSS feeds, not fucking ebooks
moron
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And your point is?
You know someone points that out with pretty much every single poll that is posted to Slashdot, right? You know that we freely give this information up and that we're all geeks here and are fully aware of what we're giving up and we're very much aware that it is trivial. It is of, quite literally, no consequence. To what end do you expect your whinging to affect change, what change would you like, and why (and how) would you like those changes implemented?
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If only there were a site you could go to where you could type that question in and get a response. It is too bad that there is no such critter because if there were such a critter it would almost certainly be faster, more effective, and more efficient than typing your question into this site and hoping that someone comes along and gives you a non-sarcastic response that actually helps.
If only...
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Your personal opinion doesn't dictate the actions of others. You *should* know this by now but it is obvious that you don't and that's not just sad but is pathetic.
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"with a rag on the stick"
Can somebody explain this reference? (I wasn't born in America)
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Seems strange that this wouldn't be Slashdot's vote...but maybe it is a sign of the times.