The same near-top-line cpu in both tablets and desktops. Its a recognition that the space between a tablet and a full blown workstation isnt in the processor anymore. Its pretty much the size of the screen, and the presence or absence of a keyboard and mouse.
What do you think a workstation is?? I don't think the iPad can hold a candle to my workstation on you know workstation tasks. It had a weedy little CPU, a weedy little GPU and not much storage. Because it's a tablet not a workstation.
My workstation has a 12 core ryzen, 64G ram, as 2080 Ti, and a big spinning disk in addition to the flash storage.
Fair enough. Yes, if you're a hardcore video editor doing massive rendering tasks, computational engineer, or theoretical scientist, yup you need every bit of power you can get and a dedicated GPU with as many cores as you can afford.
That's about 1% of the market and, yes, it's a pretty darn important part. And buying Apple for those applications is probably not the way to go.
Um, that's Apple's market. With the Mac Pro and Final Cut Pro, quite a lot *maybe even the majority) of high end professional video editing happens on the Mac. Lots of science happens on the Mac too.
Up until now, buying Apple for those applications was absolutely THE way to go. Looks like Apple may be trying to destroy their pro market, we'll have to see where the Mac Pro goes next.
Even internal to Apple most of their design studio uses Windows workstations because that’s where the CAD software they use runs best (much of it doesn’t run at all on Macs). It’s kind of their dirty little secret.
yep that's what a workstation is for. For me, video editing, deep learning and other miscellaneous computation tasks. My work workstation similar, except not video editing and much more compiling. It's faster than the much newer macbook pro I have for work and importantly doesn't sound like a tornado when it gets under load.
My 10 year old Thinkpad W510 gets more use because I do more websurfing than video ediing, and the workstation is not located in a convenient place for doing such things casually.
..., if you're a hardcore video editor doing massive rendering tasks, computational engineer, or theoretical scientist, yup you need every bit of power you can get and a dedicated GPU with as many cores as you can afford.
That's about 1% of the market and, yes, it's a pretty darn important part. And buying Apple for those applications is probably not the way to go.
For the other 99%, Apple products are great.
Actually, to contradict the both of you somewhat...anyone doing serious scientific computation in the modern era will be using a grid somewhere quite distant from their workstation, and can use a fairly low-spec machine on their desktop. I haven't asked a computer near me to do anything tough for nearly a decade.
Powerful GPUs, big memory and big storage in a workstation are the domain of video editors, gamers and dilettantes.
The only possible interpretation of any research whatever in the `social
sciences' is: some do, some don't.
-- Ernest Rutherford
The lines are blurring (Score:5, Insightful)
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What do you think a workstation is?? I don't think the iPad can hold a candle to my workstation on you know workstation tasks. It had a weedy little CPU, a weedy little GPU and not much storage. Because it's a tablet not a workstation.
My workstation has a 12 core ryzen, 64G ram, as 2080 Ti, and a big spinning disk in addition to the flash storage.
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That's about 1% of the market and, yes, it's a pretty darn important part. And buying Apple for those applications is probably not the way to go.
For the other 99%, Apple products are great.
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Um, that's Apple's market. With the Mac Pro and Final Cut Pro, quite a lot *maybe even the majority) of high end professional video editing happens on the Mac. Lots of science happens on the Mac too.
Up until now, buying Apple for those applications was absolutely THE way to go. Looks like Apple may be trying to destroy their pro market, we'll have to see where the Mac Pro goes next.
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And you know this how? If it's because you read it somewhere, post the damn link
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And you know this how?
First hand experience.
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Sure. That's super-convincing, that is
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yep that's what a workstation is for. For me, video editing, deep learning and other miscellaneous computation tasks. My work workstation similar, except not video editing and much more compiling. It's faster than the much newer macbook pro I have for work and importantly doesn't sound like a tornado when it gets under load.
My 10 year old Thinkpad W510 gets more use because I do more websurfing than video ediing, and the workstation is not located in a convenient place for doing such things casually.
For th
Real work is done on non-workstations (Score:2)
..., if you're a hardcore video editor doing massive rendering tasks, computational engineer, or theoretical scientist, yup you need every bit of power you can get and a dedicated GPU with as many cores as you can afford.
That's about 1% of the market and, yes, it's a pretty darn important part. And buying Apple for those applications is probably not the way to go.
For the other 99%, Apple products are great.
Actually, to contradict the both of you somewhat...anyone doing serious scientific computation in the modern era will be using a grid somewhere quite distant from their workstation, and can use a fairly low-spec machine on their desktop. I haven't asked a computer near me to do anything tough for nearly a decade.
Powerful GPUs, big memory and big storage in a workstation are the domain of video editors, gamers and dilettantes.