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Belkin have a history of dodgy behavior and should be avoided where possible. Their last trick was hijacking something like 1 in every thousand http connections and directing them to an advertising site.
This company should be avoided where possible.
Well, I don't have much of their stuff but I think what I have is ok stuff. Probably just a matter of a grossly overreaching marketing department. Some idiot fatass willing to eat babies to get his bonus.
The company tolerated it, so the company ought to know that such conduct will not be tolerated by consumers.
I'll not be buying Belkin, and will ensure those who ask me what to buy will be steered away from their products.Those who piss off geeks forget that non-geeks ask us for advice.
Belkin pitch themselves are a premium brand, but their products are actually the cheapest and crappyest on the market.
Their favourite trick is to buy whatever cheap wifi chips are going that week, so you end up with 5+ revisions of the same product and have to get the right driver for that revision to make it work. Reviews of their products are totally useless because one chip might be brilliant and another rubbish. Worse still they change the VID/PID pairs so that the generic drivers from the chipset manufacturer don't work, forcing you to use their horrible ones.
I had a lot of trouble with a bluetooth dongle which worked intermittently. I don't have a lot of time to faff around in shops getting refunds on cheap items. I sort of expect them to just work, especially when there's no moving parts/little risk of drop/static damage etc. There are plenty of companies making stuff which manages to work.
Yes, that is REALLY annoying, but Belkin are not the only ones who play this game.
Linksys and Netgear, for instance, had many versions of each of their USB wireless. Many of them share the same. exact. model number, but have COMPLETELY different drivers due to versioning and other VID/PID games. I wish these guys would just append the goddamn number and make it easier for people.
Oh, and I've found Belkins support site to be slow on occasion as well. Nothing like needing a driver yesterday and watching a 40+ MB file come in at 10 Kbps. :P
In Japan they often print the chipset on the box, and one particular brand (Kuro, meaning "expert") make a point of it. I wish more manufacturers would do that.
One useful trick when faced with slow and/or bloated drivers is to find the chipset and then modify the chipset manufacturer's reference drivers to work. Usually all you need to do is change the VID/PID numbers in the .inf file.
They're a ripoff. I needed a network cable, and found a nicely packaged Belkin one at PC world: a 10 meter "snagless" cable cost 40 pounds! I left the storescreaming and ordered a 5 meter standard cable on Amazon for 2.88 ...
Well, I don't have much of their stuff but I think what I have is ok stuff.
Two of my Belkin products come to mind:I have one of their 110v electrical surge suppressors.No http hijacking there!
And after their usb wifi adapter failed, the long usb extension cord has worked flawlessly!
It wasn't personal, I'm just supposed to do that after I post my glowing review of the belkin backpack as anon. otherwise I dont get paid.
The post(by ls44c) and the article are describing different incidents. The post is describing an incident from 2003 involving Belkin routers. The article is describing a recent incident involving astro turfing.
I believe that the point of the post is that the incident in the article is little more than a pattern of behaviour from a company that continues to break trust with users and is stupid enough to get caught.
By "article", I was referring to the cnet piece supposedly corroborating what was in 1s44c's post. What happened in 2003, if the cnet description is accurate, was not a breach of trust at all. Further, two "incidents" in six years hardly makes a pattern.
I'm not sure who's wrong, but your account of what Belkin did is very different from what the article states.
Ok I said one connection in a thousand, actually it was one every 8 hours with an opt out if you actually click 'no', which nobody would do in practice.
It's my understanding that a dialogue box appeared during installation of the router software asking if one wanted to purchase a web filtering suite. I know there are people who instinctively click the close button of unfamiliar prompts, but the fact remains that rather than explicitly clicking no, they failed to answer the question. I think the original behaviour was perfectly acceptable and if it were my decision, would only have changed it to prevent further bad press.
Software that attempts to sell you o
Ah yes. The cnet article didn't use technical language and I seem to have made some wrong assumptions.
My father had an issue with his XP machine, an USB device was not recognized. He ended up re-installing XP, everything was fine, the device worked. He then added a few other devices, and everything broke again. Turned out that it was a shitty Belkin USB hub, that basically killed parts of the USB in windows as soon as it was plugged in. The devices that stopped functioning were NOT on that hub. You just had to connect it to any port to screw other devices.
Yeah. No doubt they need to pay people to get good r
While your answer is indeed somewhat funny, I don't exactly understand what is your problem with my post. I just reported a bad experience that was due to a badly designed USB hub from Belkin. It may be uninteresting, but I fail to see how it can be irrelevant to the discussion at hand. Care to enlighten me ?
> So you are supposed to say "a USB port" and "an AMD motherboard".
Good. So, I should that you are *an* ignorant and pompous a-hole that is correcting the spelling of someone that isn't even a native English speaker ?
> I am so sick of hearing this bloody retarded English being peddled by so-called English speakers.
Ceci dit, on peux comparer mon Anglais avec ton Français. J'ai comme à l'idée que tu ne vas pas pouvoir aligner plus de deux mots sans te ridiculiser. Mais bon, ca n'a p
Friendly advice ?
> "I am so sick of hearing this bloody retarded English being peddled by so-called English speakers."
If that is what you call "friendly", I'm glad not to be one of your friends.
> "At least I know how definite articles work in French, which is more than I can say for you and indefinite articles in English"
At least, I know how to communicate in English, which seems to be more than I can say for you in French.
Cuts both ways, you see...
Who is paying you for this ? WHO ?
Doctor ... Who did you say?
The one who destroyed the sonic-screwdrivers plant because they were chatting Galactic Amazon buyer's view ?
So if the astroreviews were written as if the guy was using them, I can imagine only very negative reviews...
I couldn't agree with the parent more. I bought a cheap wireless router from them when I moved into my current apartment, and about 3 months later it just stopped working altogether. I called tech support on it and got someone from India who didn't have the slightest clue what I was saying and didn't understand the fact that I was using vista and not XP. To say I had a frustrating experience with them is a gross understatement. The end result of this story: I will never buy anything from Belkin ever aga
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