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Snapdragon 8cx Gives Windows Its Most Extreme Arm Chip Yet (slashgear.com) 38

Posted by msmash from the pushing-the-limits dept.
Qualcomm has announced the Snapdragon 8cx Compute Platform, a new flagship "Extreme" chipset for Windows on Arm notebooks, tablets, and 2-in-1s that promises more connectivity, more power, and battery life in excess of 25 hours. From a report: The new platform also debuts Qualcomm's new nomenclature for that ecosystem of devices, borrowing technologies from Snapdragon for smartphones but shaping them for ultraportable computing. It comes twelve months after Qualcomm announced its first Windows on Arm products. At last year's Snapdragon Summit, partners ASUS and HP revealed a Windows 10 notebook and 2-in-1, respectively, each running Microsoft's software on Qualcomm's Snapdragon 835.

The Snapdragon 8cx Compute Platform won't replace the 850 -- or, indeed, be called the Snapdragon 1000 or Snapdragon 8180 as the rumors suggested -- but instead sit above it in the Windows on Arm ecosystem. Described as "a new tier of premium computing" by Qualcomm's Miguel Nunes, senior director of product management, ahead of the Snapdragon Summit 2018 at which SlashGear is Qualcomm's guest, it was also developed from the ground up with computing in mind. Its predecessors were, of course, mobile chipsets coopted into laptop use.
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  • Its Most Extreme Arm Chip (Score:1)

    by Anonymous Coward

    >> Gives Windows Its Most Extreme Arm Chip Yet

    That old Obama era retort still applies:

    You can put lipstick on a man in a wig, but it's still a man in a wig.

  • And Patel sez: (Score:5, Funny)

    by the_skywise ( 189793 ) on Thursday December 06, 2018 @05:24PM (#57762212)
    That ARM PC sank into the swamp
    So we built another one and that also sank into the swamp
    So I built Windows 10 RT and that caught fire than sank into the swamp
    But the snapdragon... the snapdragon Windows 10 ARM PC will stay! Maybe even become a phone!

    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward

      First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they laugh at you, then they laugh at you, then you win!

    • they know mobile will at some point lead to desktops going away, its why there trying so hard only to fail epic every time.

  • ARM and Windows not a perfect match (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward

    I get ARM has made some great strides, Apple's own ARM A CPU's are closing in on Mac CPU's from Intel. Its not a performance issue so much as a compatibility issue and I remember the switch from Power PC's to Intel when Apple did it for Mac's. It was a mess for some time and a lot of old Power PC software ran horribly. So will people endure some of that with Windows and ARM PC's in order to get benefits like battery life, always connected, and possibly better security.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by Kjella ( 173770 )

      So will people endure some of that with Windows and ARM PC's in order to get benefits like battery life, always connected, and possibly better security.

      Hasn't the market answered this already with Win RT? If you want a PC to run Windows software you don't get the ARM version and if you would be happy with the ARM version there's better alternatives in Mac / Linux / Chromebooks / tablets. I think the only one who could pull it off is Apple. Not because of the x86 Macs, but because they have the iPhone/iPad base of ARM software. Like for example Adobe is now porting Photoshop to the iPad. If they've made it for the iPad (ARM based) but have the Mac GUI (x86

    • I don't remember it being much of a mess (Score:5, Interesting)

      by SuperKendall ( 25149 ) on Thursday December 06, 2018 @06:39PM (#57762680)

      I remember the switch from Power PC's to Intel when Apple did it for Mac's. It was a mess for some time

      I lived through that switch (in that I had both Motorola and Intel Macs over the years), it didn't seem like much of a mess at all, at least compared to what it could have been. I thought it worked pretty well except for maybe a handful of companies that couldn't make the transition - but Apple really did most everything it could to make the switch go much better than I would have thought... In fact probably OS9 to OSX was more painful I would say.

      Honestly they are in even better shape now since they have had so long with Xcode supporting both Arm and x86 architectures and fat binaries (and even bitcode deployment for later compilation!) for some time. For most modern Mac developers supporting ARM probably would not take a ton of work.

      I have to admit some part of me wishes Apple would switch to AMD for a while, but I can see how they feel they would really be under their own control if they go all in on ARM.

  • You'll be able to use your tablet to boil water and heat stew.

  • Is there machines which allow running Linux? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 06, 2018 @06:05PM (#57762470)

    Will it run Linux natively? Honest question, as the previous interesting ARM devices were locked to Windows, thanks to their MS or Google neutered bootloader. I have no intention to replace my Intel laptops with ARM ones if I have to do similar fragile jailbreak hacks as with game consoles.

  • Why not just avoid the Windows hassle and buy a Chromebook?

    Besides it will probably run better and give a better experience.

    Just my opinion.

  • I’m somewhat appalled to see the press “hyping” a processor, which has been clearly optimized for benchmarks.

    The Snapdragon 855 features eight cores (standard), with only one of them delivering full performance:

    1x 2.84GHz (Cortex A76)
    3x 2.42GHz (Cortex A76)
    4x 1.8GHz (Cortex-A55)

    This is a 1+3+4 design, as opposed to the traditional 4+4.

    There’s 512kb L2 cache on the big core, while there’s “only” 256kb on each of the three middle cores, and 128kb for each o

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