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New "Crescent Bay" VR Headset Revealed and Demo'd At Oculus Connect 65

Posted by timothy from the as-the-ndas-fall dept.
Oculus Rift revealed today its new 'Crescent Bay' prototype wearable display, at its inaugural Oculus Connect conference. (You can find more in the company's blog too.) From Gamasutra's coverage: The new headset has 360 degree tracking and integrated audio, as well as improved performance that allows better presence, says Iribe. It has higher resolution and a better refresh rate than even its recent DK2 headset. It's also much lighter than earlier prototypes. The company has also licensed technology from RealSpace 3-D for improved 3D audio on Oculus moving forward. Audio is becoming a priority for the company, [CEO Brendan] ]Iribe said. Road to VR has a gushing hands-on review: One of the stand-out demos put me in front of an alien on some sort of Moon-like world. The alien was looking at me and speaking in an unfamiliar tongue. When I moved my head, its gaze followed me. Its big and detailed eyes, combined with reaction to me as I moved, imbued it with a sense of living that was really cool. Spaceships flew over head and drew my gaze behind me, leading me to look at some incredibly detailed scenery.
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  • Virtual Fairy Tales!

  • Slashdot Hate Machine (Score:5, Insightful)

    by MildlyTangy ( 3408549 ) on Saturday September 20, 2014 @06:28PM (#47955891)

    I tried the old and relatively crappy DK1 Rift, and for all its instantly perceivable limitations, and as a VR first timer, it was still an exercise in pants-wetting, literally jaw-dropping awe. No technology has ever come close to it in the levels of amazement and excitement for the future. ( seeing my first 3D video card render from the days of software rendering is the closest, but not that close)

    But im pretty disappointed at the typical new-Slashdot reaction to what is truly an exciting and literally awesome technology. The Slashdot Hate Machine is inexplicable and relentless, and nothing is spared from the stomp of its soul crushing boots. It seems, no matter what technology is created, the hate and adolescent invective knows no bounds.

    I want the old Slashdot back. It was very informative, genuinely funny at times (dont tell me a shark-laser joke is genuinely worth the now-guaranteed +5 Funny), and was the only place on the 'net that I could find and share in that level of expertise and genuine interest and excitement in Science and Technology. The last few years have been a sad and disturbing decline in the quality of commenters in Slashdot.

    I miss Old Slashdot :(

    OK, downmodders and trolls, come at me.

    • I for one will wait until china starts selling knock offs because fuck FB.

    • Re:Slashdot Hate Machine (Score:5, Interesting)

      by BringsApples ( 3418089 ) on Saturday September 20, 2014 @07:20PM (#47956073)
      Yup. There was a guy here the other day talking about how much he hates slashvertizement, and asked if anyone had a recommendation for another site. Sadly the people that make up the world today are what sucks, it's not just these websites that allow for such talks. It seems that there's a newer generation of folks that are here to stay, and their main understanding of the world is derived from arguing. If you watch TV these days at all of the reality shows, that's all that they really do, argue intensely.

      One thing that you didn't point out about how weird it is at slashdot lately is the mods. Man, what the shit? People get mod points and just seem to go silly-willy. I suspect that some folks just get on their hate-wagon, and seek out certain people's comments, and regardless of what they say, they mod them down, purely based on the screen name. The result is that a lot of AC posts make it to the top (maybe there are folks that mod their own AC post up, dunno). Either way, it's a sad truth - slashdot isn't as informative as it used to be. I kind of wish they'd do away with AC, or only allow moderation privileges to certain folks. But both of those are shitty ideas.

      • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

        by Anonymous Coward

        I'm posting as AC because I like my responses to be moderated based on their content and not based on my posting history. I intentionally log out to post.

        Regarding using mod points to mod things down, I stick to the 80/20 rule - 80% of my moderation points are for modding up good stuff and 20% if modding down Trolls/Flamebait/Offtopic and I try to use them all in a single thread that is of particular interest to me. It's somewhat self-serving, but I think I can say that I have modded things as Insightful

      • One thing that you didn't point out about how weird it is at slashdot lately is the mods. Man, what the shit? People get mod points and just seem to go silly-willy. I suspect that some folks just get on their hate-wagon, and seek out certain people's comments, and regardless of what they say, they mod them down, purely based on the screen name.

        I can't speak for anyone else, but this actually used to happen to me a lot "back in the day", and obviously as well; the mods would simply apply to five consecutive comments, many of which had nothing wrong with them. Then I'd post the list of URLs to my journal, and often some of my fans would help me out with some cancelling, corrective positive moderation. Thanks, fans! Lately there's been a lot less of that. It's happened maybe twice in two years that I can recall, it used to happen every couple months

        • How about a word filter for ACs?

          This is a good idea. Slashdot could simply ban certain words from an AC post: "You are posting as AC but used the following word(s): $WORD_LIST. Please edit your post to not include this word(s)." I imagine it would detour some people from posting AC, but certainly would disable trolling to a large degree. If you look at the number of people commenting on slashdot today, and look at the numbers 10 years ago, staggering difference.

          • Wrong. Also, they would just make new accounts, like the GNAA did. I realize that you and GP have invested a large portion of your heart into the names `DrinkyPoo' and `BringsApples', but most people don't give nearly as many shits about fake internet names and online reputation on an irrelevant site as you do.
      • I rather like the StackOverflow moderation system, where it costs _you_ karma to downvote someone else.

        In general, I don't think Slashdot's moderation system is effective at promoting interesting discussion. I think the bulk of the problems are the moderation cap at 5, which means there's a very limited dynamic range of interestingness; and there's no visible karma score, which means there's no point in taking the long view --- StackOverflow's system of gamifying karma so that people deliberately try to p

      • Re: (Score:1)

        by Anonymous Coward

        2 shills in the 3.4mil range with remarkably similar names promoting the product under discussion. Quelle surprise.

      • I only mod up, when I think it's justified. Most time my points expire. And I still think /. is informative et al. Maybe it doesn't have the same tone as a couple years ago but things change, so...

    • cardboard (Score:3, Insightful)

      by globaljustin ( 574257 )

      Your post seems fishy...your UID is in the 3.4 millions but you reference the 'old slashdot'...and your whole "hate machine" thing, it seems like you expected to get comments that disagreed so you pre-emptively call anyone who disagrees a troll. Also, you should know that people on /. do not like fake users who break out elaborate rhetoric with no substance other than to hype a product.

      Slashdot old & new hates hype. Wild-eyed, fanboi hype is fine of course, but you can't call us trolls for disagreeing a

      • Re: (Score:3)

        by ColaMan ( 37550 )

        And there are certainly a lot of gushing reviews and no shortage of hype.

        The crotchety old man in me wonders precisely what we're going to use it for again? Apart from teh awesome!1! games.......

        And with regards to old-school slashdot, need we bring up CmdrTaco's review of the iPod? There's been plenty of hatin' round these parts going on for decades now.

    • FYI - Since everyone started twatting and facebooking the newsgroups have come back to life.

      The Eternal September has more or less ended - the newbies that can work out how to install a newsreader can't deal with the patience needed waiting for a reply.

      I've moved my technical discussions over there and use reddit and other sites as news feeds.

      I mean, why didn't slashdot have any news items on the Mill CPU architecture?

      • Thanks for the tip about the Mill CPU!! People have been bitching about how Slashdot has gone down the shitter since I was in High School (~2002). There has always been a variable signal to noise ratio, but the signal has consistently proven to be worthwhile enough to come back. Case in point: this.

        http://millcomputing.com/docs/belt/

    • Sounds like Dagoth Moor Zoological Gardens is out of beta. .

    • Re: (Score:3)

      by Osgeld ( 1900440 )

      no technology except the 20 years of old technology

      VR has not gotten smaller or more responsive in 20 years, inf act its gotten larger and heavier than it was in the late 90's and the only improvement is resolution and source material

      when a new, exciting technology is stagnated so long to the point its MOVING BACKWARDS, then there is a fundamental problem with the technology that is not worth getting all happy pants about, in fact its a 100% target of hate

      why did a pair of I glasses in 1998 weigh half as mu

    • I want the old Slashdot back. It was very informative, genuinely funny at times (dont tell me a shark-laser joke is genuinely worth the now-guaranteed +5 Funny), and was the only place on the 'net that I could find and share in that level of expertise and genuine interest and excitement in Science and Technology. The last few years have been a sad and disturbing decline in the quality of commenters in Slashdot.

      I challenge you to show me an old Slashdot article and its discussion that represents what you mean with "good old times". They are all archived. I have occasionally read them again. There is about the same amount of trash-talk and sophisticated comments as we have here today. The only clear difference is that back then there was a lot more mod points in circulation.

  • Avegant Glyph (Score:4, Interesting)

    by tricorn ( 199664 ) <sep@shout.net> on Saturday September 20, 2014 @07:23PM (#47956085) Journal

    I'm really looking forward to seeing how the Rift and the Glyph compare. They both seem to be converging from different sides to be very similar, but with the delivery tech being quite different. I'm excited about the form factor of the Glyph and the emphasis on audio. The video doesn't have the resolution of the Rift yet, but it sounds like it is still very good.

    It would be really interesting to see innovations from both put together. I really like the idea of using micro-mirror arrays to create the virtual image, and I really like that the Glyph can be used without corrective lenses.

    If the two companies could have merged and joined the best of both, that would have been really excellent.

  • A really impressive demonstration of VR... (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Michael Woodhams ( 112247 ) on Saturday September 20, 2014 @07:41PM (#47956165) Journal

    ... would be if you walked into the company's hospitality suite at a conference, put on the VR headset, looked around you ... and couldn't tell the difference.

    An alien landscape is very cool and photogenic, but might be hiding flaws because we don't know what it is supposed to look like. It is a fair demonstration of immersive game worlds, which will be one of the big initial uses of VR, so the demonstration is not invalidated by this.

    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by sexconker ( 1179573 )

      ... would be if you walked into the company's hospitality suite at a conference, put on the VR headset, looked around you ... and couldn't tell the difference.

      An alien landscape is very cool and photogenic, but might be hiding flaws because we don't know what it is supposed to look like. It is a fair demonstration of immersive game worlds, which will be one of the big initial uses of VR, so the demonstration is not invalidated by this.

      So, your ideal VR headset is blank glasses frame with no lenses?
      Works for me - VR is trash.

  • I had a chance to play with the Rift but could only do so for a few second before motion sickness kicked in big time. I can't do first person shooters without the same thing happening. I'm wondering what will happen as we move more and more toward these types of immersive HCI's and how folks like me will be affected. As some point will these devices become ubiquitous and this type of reaction be considered a "handicap" because it will require special accommodations in the workplace?

    • Re: (Score:1)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Don't worry. The motion sickness (which is apparently very common) comes from latency, bad tracking and other such flaws. The majority of the work is being done working on exactly these issues. Once its "good" it won't be any worse than simply looking around the real world. Valve has been doing some great research in this area, here is one of their papers on the subject (PDF) [steampowered.com]

    • Don't worry. This technology seems really great for entertainment, but I fail to see a real use for it in most workplaces. How exactly is typing a letter or filling in data in a spreadsheet enhanced by VR? If anything, augmented reality would be more helpful, allowing contextual data to be displayed on-demand.

      Besides which... hell, Windows 8 was too radical for the corporate world. And remember the furor over MS changing the Office interface? You really think they're going to start strapping VR headset

      • Some of us, praise his Noodliness, do things other than typing in letters or filling in spreadsheets.

        You must live in New Jersey or someplace like that.

  • This is fairly interesting news, but did we need SIX links to the same information on six different websites in the FIRST sentence of the summary? What that all about?
  • I'll believe it when I can buy it, put it on, download a game, and play in 3D. Until then, it's just more vaporware. We've been hearing about the Oculus for years now, and everyone keeps claiming that it's "almost ready", but it's still not available yet. Their insistence that it'll be ready "when it's ready" is less than comforting.
  • All I can find is that the resolution is "higher" than the DK2, and the screen door effect is gone, or nearly so.

    Can anyone confirm that they've gone to 4K?

  • Sadly, none of the Oculus headsets out so far will work for me, as my IPD is too narrow (52 mm). Most devices go from 57 or 58 mm to wider. I guess I'll have to wait for the technology to be ubiquitous enough that they start making children's headsets. If this ever happens, I'd love to check it out. I've always wanted this sort of immersive 3D.

  • I own a DK2, but even if it's superior to anything else that was/is on the market for under $1000, it still needs a lot of work. Having seen the new prototype, it sure looks ugly like hell, also the headphones really look like the crap you get on a plane.. Compare that to the full headset you got on the forte VFX-1 (which IMHO is still one of the most comfortable HMD's ever, especially with it's flipup visor).. Also with the DK2 there really isn't any good calibration, which it certainly needs to try and ge

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