4K Is For Programmers 520
An anonymous reader writes "The 4K television revolution is upon us, and nobody is impressed. Most users seem content to wait until there's actually something to watch on these ultra-high-res displays, and also for the price to come down. However, Brian Hauer has written an article promoting a non-standard use for these displays. His office just got a 39", 3840x2160 display for each of their programmers' workstations. He now confidently declares, 'For the time being, there is no single higher-productivity display for a programmer.' Hauer explains: 'Four editors side-by-side each with over a hundred lines of code, and enough room to spare for a project navigator, console, and debugger. Enough room to visualize the back-end service code, the HTML template, the style-sheet, the client-side script, and the finished result in a web browser — all at once without one press of Alt-tab.'"
Why not just multiple monitors. (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:39" display for workstations? (Score:5, Insightful)
If you were an investor you'd be upset at a company spending $500 a head replacing programmer's monitors? Sorry, but that's idiotic.
Almost any non-negligible productivity improvement is going to recoup $500 over the lifespan of an LED monitor.
Re:39" display for workstations? (Score:5, Insightful)
Yeah, because spending $500 on a monitor is just outrageous. That's an insane amount of money to spend on equipment for someone paid several times that amount every week.
Re:39" display for workstations? (Score:5, Insightful)
So let me get this straight:
You'd be angry that the company was spending some tiny fraction of the programmer's total annual cost (salary + taxes +pension + health insurance + building overheads + support overheads)--even smaller when you amortize it over the life of the monitor--to make the expensive programmers more productive.
You're nuts.
Are you also angry that they've got decent computers rather than underspecced, second hand $100 shitboxes?
If it costs you $10k per year to make the programmer 10% productive, that's going to be a substantial win unless you have very cheap programmers.
Re:Why not just multiple monitors. (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Character size? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Why not just multiple monitors. (Score:5, Insightful)
That's probably true for most users. But when you disable raise-on-click and and choose to raise windows with either another mouse button or alt-click, maximize starts to seem really *really* silly. I personally work with windows on top of other windows, making better use of my screen real estate than most people.
Now mentally, I could see how many small monitors helps you to organize windows like workspaces. That would be a plus.
Too big (Score:4, Insightful)
You can currently buy a 2560x1440 27" display for around $350. The Seiki display they refer to is actually two 1920x2160 panels stitched together and limited to a painful 30hz. Second, the monitor is not 4k, it's 3840x2160 which is only UHD. 4k is 4096x2160.
Finally, this is a nearly 40 inch display. They look ridiculous as a computer monitor and the ergonomics suck.
Just give us 4k in a 27-30" form factor for people that aren't blind. I'm amazed that phones can have higher pixel densities than computer monitors.
Re:Philip J. Fry (Score:5, Insightful)
Shut up and take my employer's money.
Re:Why not just multiple monitors. (Score:4, Insightful)
Unfortunately, I feel this band-aid of using multiple monitors has held back the rise of bigger monitors in general.
The Other 4K (Score:5, Insightful)
Was I the only one who thought about the 4K demo coding contests when reading the headline?
Re:Why not just multiple monitors. (Score:4, Insightful)
Wait for it...
60Hz is just starting to show up. Dell's got two monitors available now and 1 that should be available real soon now that do 4k at 60Hz over DisplayPort 1.2a. There are a couple other monitors out there that also do 60Hz and a TV with HDMI 2 that'll be out soon. Unfortunately there aren't many video cards that support it yet and firmware/driver issues are just starting to get ironed out. Give it another 6 months and you should be able to get a good setup for gaming. (Of course, then you might have trouble with 4k support in existing games.)
Re: 39" display for workstations? (Score:5, Insightful)
Response from management:
Eh, accounting says we don't have that kind of money and down in the basement we have some old green screen apple ][ monitors. Programmers just look at text anyway right?
I have a business meeting in cancun, and will be out of the office for three weeks...
Re:Been using 2K for a few months (Score:3, Insightful)
Oh, for "-1, Used subject line as first line of comment".
Re:where do I sign? (Score:5, Insightful)
> Must... reopen... Dell financing account.
It isn't like these are some crazy-expensive $3000 monitors.
They are only $500 at Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DOPGO2G [amazon.com]
Re:Why not just multiple monitors. (Score:4, Insightful)
Then if you really want to use the WHOLE screen, you can do that too.