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Robotics AI The Military

Emotional Attachment To Robots Could Affect Battlefield Outcome 194

vinces99 writes "It's becoming more common to have robots sub for humans to do dirty or sometimes dangerous work. But researchers are finding that, in some cases, people have started to treat robots like pets, friends or even as an extension of themselves. That raises a question: If a soldier attaches human or animal-like characteristics to a field robot, can it affect how they use the robot? What if they 'care' too much about the robot to send it into a dangerous situation? Julie Carpenter, who just received a doctorate in education from the University of Washington, wanted to find out. She interviewed Explosive Ordnance Disposal military personnel – highly trained soldiers who use robots to disarm explosives – about how they feel about the robots they work with every day. What she found is that troops' relationships with robots continue to evolve as the technology changes. Soldiers told her that attachment to their robots didn't affect their performance, yet acknowledged they felt a range of emotions such as frustration, anger and even sadness when their field robot was destroyed. That makes Carpenter wonder whether outcomes on the battlefield could potentially be compromised by human-robot attachment, or the feeling of self-extension into the robot described by some operators."
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Emotional Attachment To Robots Could Affect Battlefield Outcome

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  • No. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by mark-t ( 151149 ) <markt AT nerdflat DOT com> on Wednesday September 18, 2013 @06:32PM (#44888723) Journal

    Just... no.

    I get that they might be sad when a robot they were using somehow gets lost or destroyed, but I really can't see that influencing how likely they are to use that robot for dangerous situations unless the soldier had somehow personally invested time and energy into making the robot do or act the way that it does, and in particular such that it would require some substantial personal investment (monetary, timewise, workwise, or simply having to wait a while) to replace it.

  • perception (Score:4, Insightful)

    by themushroom ( 197365 ) on Wednesday September 18, 2013 @06:42PM (#44888823) Homepage

    Soldiers told her that attachment to their robots didn't affect their performance, yet acknowledged they felt a range of emotions such as frustration, anger and even sadness when their field robot was destroyed.

    There are two ways this can be taken:
    a) Like a soldier that loses a comrade on the battlefield
    b) Like a mechanic whose only 10mm crescent wrench snapped

    The former may be the implication, but the latter is a fact -- the robot is a tool and without that field robot the operator isn't doing his job / lacks the thing he's operating.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 18, 2013 @07:01PM (#44888991)

    I suppose we could just use humans instead. We don't get emotional attachments to those, do we?

  • Re:No. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by globaljustin ( 574257 ) on Wednesday September 18, 2013 @07:28PM (#44889199) Journal

    yep just 'no' is kind...

    i'd call the research total bullshit...

    unless the soldier had somehow personally invested time and energy into making the robot do or act the way that it does

    right...this is *at the most*

    it's the same as a favorite gun or hat or w/e...I know in high school if you'd have asked me if I had an emotional attachment to my lucky black socks, I'd have said yes, and probably answered a damn Likert Scale questionaire in a way similar to this...

    fuck I hate what passes for PhD work these days...

    this study **might** have been worthwhile if she'd done some actual science by comparing her results with the bomb bot to things like favorite *boots* and *rifle* and then to drone pilots and their craft...that'd be the start of a PhD worthy researxch project

    bah!

  • Re:Mod parent up. (Score:4, Insightful)

    by amicusNYCL ( 1538833 ) on Wednesday September 18, 2013 @07:28PM (#44889205)

    Their "willingness to use it"? You realize these are EOD guys they are talking about, right? If there's a bomb on the road, and you're responsible for disarming it, and you can either put on the big suit and walk out there to do it or fire up your robot and bust out the joystick, which choice are you going to make? The EOD guys don't think that they would rather lose a limb than have to put in an order for another robot. They use the robot unless they have no other choice, they don't want to be standing over that bomb if it goes off. Even if they gave their robot a name and painted eyes and a mouth on it and sleep next to it and act like they're feeding it, when it's time for them to do their job the choice is obvious.

    My brother in law is an EOD guy. He's not going to have the Marines call his wife and son to let them know that he's not going to be coming home, or that he's missing a couple arms and legs, because he didn't want to deploy his robot. This entire discussion is stupid.

  • by CrimsonAvenger ( 580665 ) on Wednesday September 18, 2013 @07:34PM (#44889229)

    Before we had robots to do EOD, men had to do it.

    No matter how attached someone might be to his robot, he's going to be more attached to his men.

    Until you find an EOD guy who says "Wish we'd never invented these robots, things were much better when *I* was the one being blown into next week rather than my little metal buddy here..." you don't have to worry about human attitudes to robots affecting their judgement in war.

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