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Collision Between Water and Energy Is Underway, and Worsening 189

An anonymous reader writes "This article is an eye opening perspective on another side effect of power generation — water usage: 'More than 40 percent of fresh water used in the United States is withdrawn to cool power plants. Renewable energy generally uses far less water, but there are glaring exceptions, such as geothermal and concentrating solar.' The article also mentions that power plants have to shut down if the incoming water is too warm to cool the plant. 'Also, even though some newer plants might use far less water, they could find that there’s far less water available as water temperatures go up and water flows go down. Another study found that nearly half of 423 U.S. plants were at risk of lower power output during droughts because their intake pipes for water were less than 3 meters below the surface.'"
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Collision Between Water and Energy Is Underway, and Worsening

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 19, 2013 @06:41PM (#44333301)

    The fact that powerplants borrow water to cool themselves is no big deal. They give it all back.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 19, 2013 @06:49PM (#44333335)
    That's probably even harder than trying to explain to what passes as an environmentalist these days that it's only steam rising out of nuclear power plants. They'll keep screaming that power plants burn babies to make energy and that they all need to shut down so we can go back to eating alongside sheep, which makes the whole cause look stupid.
  • by stevew ( 4845 ) on Friday July 19, 2013 @07:01PM (#44333413) Journal

    What is even more ridiculous is the 40% number. Come ON! What about Agriculture. In CA something like 90% or our H2O usage goes to growing things. The power generation is tiny. Then there is the little detail that many of our power plants use ocean water!

    I'm calling BS on that number.

  • by Animats ( 122034 ) on Friday July 19, 2013 @07:10PM (#44333499) Homepage

    Water-cooled power plants take in water. And then they put it out again, warmer. They don't use it up. At worst some of it comes out as water vapor from cooling towers, which condenses out.

  • by erroneus ( 253617 ) on Friday July 19, 2013 @07:29PM (#44333653) Homepage

    Water circulates. It moves all over the place whether we like it or not. We should be more concerned about pollution than water. It doesn't truly get "used" as much as it gets moved from one place to another.

    All that said, we continuously use increasingly more efficient things which use energy. It's important we continue doing that. We continually develop efficient energy production systems. It's important we continue doing that... and perhaps important that we do that even more. Efficiency is good for everyone except people who sell the resource at the core of this -- energy.

    But to say "OMG! We're running out of water!?" Just not happening. We need better ways to manage water, but we're not exactly running out either.

  • by Cramer ( 69040 ) on Friday July 19, 2013 @08:27PM (#44334055) Homepage

    Most power plants built the lake in the first place. And they don't discharge into the lake; they discharge at or downstream of the dam -- so they aren't pulling in their own hot water. Next to none (read: NONE) of the intake water is used in the turbine steam loops -- those are 100% closed loops, if you're losing water you have a problem. (a serious problem for nuke plants.) [note: steam loops use distilled water -- ZERO minerals, RO reduces the mineral/particle volume, but it's not zero.]

    That said, there are still numerous plants that use evaporative cooling towers. And they do, indeed, require a significant volume of water that is "consumed" -- it goes up as vapor. While it isn't "drinking water", it's water that's not available to the filter plant that feeds your taps. In a drought, you have a choice... cool the power plant, or have water to drink.

  • by ChrisMaple ( 607946 ) on Friday July 19, 2013 @09:27PM (#44334339)
    The moral flaw is with the people who told you that you were educated. "Bare" isn't "bear". Can you find the flaw in your second paragraph?

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