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Windows 7 Still Being Sold On Up To 93% of British PCs 295

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nk497 writes "The vast majority of PCs sold by British PC makers are running Windows 7 — not Windows 8. PC Pro spoke to several PC builders, with some reporting as many as 93% of recently sold machines were on the older OS. One company initially sold its PCs with Windows 8, but feedback from users soon changed that. Customers quickly began to specify systems with Windows 7, those with Windows 8 'took delivery and wanted to change back to Windows 7' – a process the firm described as a 'nightmare.' Another firm found success by installing a 'start menu' tool on Windows 8 machines, and others said the switch would have gone smoother if Microsoft has offered a Windows 8 tutorial or better explained the new OS."
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Windows 7 Still Being Sold On Up To 93% of British PCs

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  • Windows 8 nightmare (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 19, 2013 @11:05AM (#42944639)

    I bought my mother an Asus "Ultrabook" for christmas as her old laptop had finally given out. It had a hard drive failure last week, and rather than send it in I decided to swap out the drive myself.

    Never have I had more trouble attempting to reinstall something like I did with Windows 8. Previously, you could just get a windows ISO, punch in the OEM serial from the sticker on the case, and you'd be set. Now, everything is certificate based, and will only work with a specific OEM copy of Windows made for that machine, and NOTHING else. On top of this, ASUS wants $50 for the disc to reinstall windows.

    This OS was a giant step towards appliance computing for Microsoft. If the next version is like this or worse, I'll deal with support issues for my family on Linux instead.

  • New user experience (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Sockatume (732728) on Tuesday February 19, 2013 @11:15AM (#42944759)

    Having recently taken the plunge, the new user experience can be summarised as "swipe a bit, here's some corners, now don't drown". I really like the OS now I've had some practice, in both its content-browsing Metro guise and as an updated version of Windows 7 but they've made no effort to bridge the gap between the two in such a way that a confident use of one can get to grips with the other. It takes some real lateral thinking to see what the mouse or touchpad equivalent of a touchscreen gesture is.

    It doesn't help that touchpad gesture support is uniformly terrible. A look at regedit suggests that scrolling support is mostly hacked in on a per-app basis.

  • Re:That's because (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 19, 2013 @11:28AM (#42944903)

    I'm probably alone here, but I prefer the start screen over a start menu. If I'm using the mouse I find it easier to hit a large tile than a small row of text. And if I'm using the keyboard I press Win-key and type just like in previous versions.
    The Win+x menu is also nice, although I'm sure there's a way to get that functionality on Win 7 as well.

    I haven't found any useful Metro programs though so I can't comment on their (dis)usability on the desktop.

  • by denis-The-menace (471988) on Tuesday February 19, 2013 @11:34AM (#42944957)

    Of course Microsoft is listening.

    They know that they can make regular people buy 2 OS' for each laptop. What else are lemmings to do? Install Linux? (Maybe in 2015 after Linux gaming takes off.)

    It's like corporations buying PCs with OEM windows installed and then get wiped to install their Corporate image using another license. So each PC uses 2 licenses: OEM (non-transferable) and Corporate.

    It's win-win times 2 for Microsoft. They can abuse their customers and still roll in it. They have a monopoly.

  • Re:This is not True (Score:3, Interesting)

    by mario64 (573112) on Tuesday February 19, 2013 @11:37AM (#42944969)
    The article is about PC builders who are installing Win7 at the customers request, not high-street retailers where customers are not given a choice. This is not Slashdot trying to convince everyone Win8 is terrible, it's PC buyers who are rejecting it when given the option.
  • by Adriax (746043) on Tuesday February 19, 2013 @11:52AM (#42945119)

    The pattern:

    95- Crap
    NT- Good
    98- Crap
    98 SE- Good enough
    ME- Crap
    2000- Good
    XP at launch- Crap
    XP after a near complete rewrite through service packs- Good
    Vista- Crap
    7- Good
    8- Crap

  • Re:That's because (Score:5, Interesting)

    by hairyfeet (841228) <bassbeast1968@NOspaM.gmail.com> on Tuesday February 19, 2013 @01:40PM (#42946383) Journal

    No its not, all those shell replacements do is HIDE metro but do NOT kill it, so all that tweeting twitting FB crap is still sucking memory and bandwidth, you just can't see it. Not to mention that unlike Win 7 a good chunk of the programs in win 8 are ADWARE so you also have to figure in the time to remove that crap.

    This article just confirms what any of us little shop guys could have told you, nobody wants Windows 8. There really is no point in windows 8 unless its on a cellphone or tablet and the "extra speed" is frankly just a VERY bad hack (look up "hybrid boot" to see what is actually happening, you no longer can get a clean start of Win 8 without going CLI, instead you get hybrid boot which is more like hibernate than shutdown) and Win 7 on an SSD more than makes up for it.

    If for no other reason refuse to take windows 8 on principle...I mean do you REALLY want MSFT to continue in this direction? Stuffing the OS full of ads, making UIs that look like a 14 year old with ADHD went nuts with a box of crayons, not to mention trying to drive us towards an appstore?

    Windows 7 is fast, its rock solid stable, and most importantly IT JUST WORKS and will keep on working until 2020 at the least, so why get stuck with something you don't want and tell MSFT its okay to ignore the users like that because you're willing to "put up with it" and try to hack your way back to a functional OS? Just say No to Metro, if enough people just say no then MSFT will have no choice but go back to the drawing board and fix their mess, just as they did with Vista.

  • by lgw (121541) on Tuesday February 19, 2013 @03:50PM (#42947523) Journal

    It's worse than you think: they missed a very smart play for this nonsense. A single system-level API for tablets, computers, phones, and the X-Box would have been an amazing thing. The same UI is exactly wrong: the same API call for, e.g., a context menu, producing something appropriate for each platform would have been great - and while you can't go very far in that direction on the UI, you sure can on the system-facing parts. If the same system call gets me a new file in the right place for, e.g., program settings, on a phone, game console, or server, it would be far easier to hire devs for any of those platforms.

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