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PengPod Hits Funding Goal, Plans to Ship Linux Tablet In January 69

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An anonymous reader writes "Quoting liliputing: 'PengPod plans to start shipping 7 and 10 inch tablets with support for Linux as well as Google Android in January. The company, founded by Neal Peacock, has been raising money to help support software development for the tablets — and Peacock just wrote in to let us know the project has surpassed its initial $49,000 fundraising goal. In other words, the campaign will be fully funded and backers that pledged $120 or more should get their tablets starting in January if all goes according to plan.'" And, unlike many ARM SoCs, the kernel for the Allwinner A10 powering it is developed openly.
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PengPod Hits Funding Goal, Plans to Ship Linux Tablet In January

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  • by metalmaster (1005171) on Sunday December 02, 2012 @10:33AM (#42160979)
    I love the idea of a dual booting tablet, but it doesnt really strike me as a consumer device. I hope each of the pledged backers really understands what they're getting. It should beat out that $99 walgreens tablet but it's not going to be the iPad killer by any means
    • by Gordonjcp (186804)

      Well, an "iPad killer" shouldn't be that hard. Android does require a bit more processing power than iOS but it looks and feels so much better. The iPad got left behind a while ago, with its clunky hard-to-use UI.

      • by nurb432 (527695)

        "Look and feel" is a personal choice, not absolute.

    • by citizenr (871508) on Sunday December 02, 2012 @10:53AM (#42161041) Homepage

      It should beat out that $99 walgreens tablet

      no it wont. It has $50 Tablet specs (shitty photoframe TN low resolution screen). 10' one is $30 more expensive than same hardware bought in shop.
      Kernel source is useless when you have no GPU driver and no VPU driver (no h.264 acceleration).
      I really dont understand what is this thing about.

      • by westlake (615356)

        It should beat out that $99 walgreens tablet

        no it wont. It has $50 Tablet specs (shitty photoframe TN low resolution screen).

        Back to the Future.

        The one positive for Walmart in its five year mission to bring OEM Linux to the masses was the discovery that it could onload truckloads of worthless industrial surplus shit hardware to the geek so long as it was stickered with a Tux logo.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    The Linux philosophy is incompatible with the concept of a tablet. Sadly kids today think "Ubuntu" would be what Linux is. They couldn't be farther from the truth.

    A tablet is a consumer device that is not a computer anymore but is very limited and primitive in its functionality. It is not suited for creating anything, or using a computer for its actual purpose in general.

    Linux is an operating system whose greatest features are its total freedom... of configurability... of modifiability... and most important

    • by westlake (615356)

      Something that is designed to be used by people who actually make things instead of sitting there and drooling their life away.

      The tool maker makes tools that make building or managing other things easier.

      It doesn't make him superior to the business woman, artist or craftsman, who has the imagination to see their full potential.

      It doesn't make him superior to those whose lives are centered around other tools and other tasks. "Drooling their lives away?" Not at all.

    • Mod parent up!

    • by darkNeko (1238104)

      I beg to differ,

      It'ts not the tablet form factor that is the problem. It's the OS and envitornment that limit yourself. You cannot develop for IOS on the ipad or iphone, you cannot easily develop for android in an android device. Those environment are pretty limited, because they are mean to work as appliances, not computers, however, the underlying hardware is a computer, and quite powerfull for what is worth.

      You really don't need several gigaherz of processing power but for a couple of task, gaming and ha

  • 800x480 (Score:3, Insightful)

    by citizenr (871508) on Sunday December 02, 2012 @10:46AM (#42161021) Homepage

    $120
    hilarious

  • The site is http://www.indiegogo.com/pengpod [indiegogo.com] and the preorders are open through Sunday.
  • by BenJeremy (181303) on Sunday December 02, 2012 @10:58AM (#42161065)

    Again with the PengPod. My SmartQ V7 had Ubuntu, Android and Windows CE several years ago.

    This is nothing new, and I'm even more shocked this whole thing has had a followup.

    I wish could mod the summary

    • by BenJeremy (181303)

      Wow... I get modded "flamebait" for stating the PengPod is nothing special or new, and questioning it's Slashdot-worthiness?

      So this is what has become of Slashdot... where legitimate criticism is smothered (censored) by moderation?

      • by Jaktar (975138)

        Unfortunately, yes. There are still some people with their eyes open around here. It seems like less and less every day.

      • by Dzimas (547818)
        Just because something isn't the first doesn't mean it should be dismissed. The news here is that the PengPad Kickstarter project was successful. It's a strong indicator that there is a market for multi-boot tablets that aren't locked down, although I suspect it will be a year or two (if ever) before we see top notch hardware in that niche.
  • by nurb432 (527695)

    Not trying to sound like a troll here, but what is the point? There are so many cheap tablets running around, why create another somewhat underpowered one?

    Sure, for hobbyists, it might have a place, but for average consumers just grabbing a cheap Chinese tablet ( which this is, ultimately ) seems like the better route to me.

    • by Zadaz (950521)

      Not trying to sound like a troll here, but what is the point?

      Sure, for hobbyists, it might have a place[...]

      Don't know if that's a troll, but you did answer your own question. There are only 315 preorders for this thing. Sounds like a hobbyist device to me.

      Yeah, for most people it's stupid, but that's the definition for every piece of equipment that every hobbyist buys, regardless of the hobby.

      Now the actual project feels a bit dicey to me. First of all the Fixed Funding campaign. That means that he takes a

      • by nurb432 (527695)

        No, it wasn't a troll, really. Just didn't see a point in "yet another cheap tablet", when they are a dime a dozen over in the mainland now, to the point of being disposable. ( i have a couple of them myself )

        I thought the intent was to create a mainstream consumer product out of this, perhaps i misunderstood. But, even as a hobbyist product, wouldn't it make more sense to take an existing product instead and work on opening it up? Now, if the 'generics' weren't so widely available and so cheap id not quest

      • On indiegogo a flexible funding campaign means they take the funds whether or not they hit the goal. A FIXED funding campaign like this means they have to reach their goal. I agree a flexible would have been shady, that is why we went fixed.
      • by darkNeko (1238104)

        Quick to judge, slow to read....

        If you actually read something on their fundraising page, you'll see:

        Fixed Funding means is all or nothing, if you don't reach the goal, you see nothing.
        The hardware IS ALREADY COMPLETE, they didn't make it, in fact yes, it's a somewhat cheap chinese tablet. (They are chinese hadware importers).
        They cannot ship by Xmas because the linux support is not complete, they just finished they fundraising, with only 23 days left for xmas, just the logistics
        to deliver all tablets can t

  • Why? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by p0p0 (1841106) on Sunday December 02, 2012 @12:02PM (#42161425)
    My $120 china tab has a 1024x600 display. 1GHz and dual-core mai-400 GPU. It has Android 4 and there is a ubuntu image available that runs from SD. Even the Nexus has an official ubuntu port, and many others have the same port as mine I'd wagger. So what exactly is the purpose?

    The company that made my tab (Ainol *snicker*) has released their kernel sources, so it's not like some companies which don't honour the usage rights.

    What a load of rubbish.
    • by csumpi (2258986)
      Maybe because Ainol didn't pay the /. front page story tax. BTW I have the same Ainol tablet, great screen and superb build quality (it survived many drops by my 3 year old).
    • Drivers
      I've just got a mouse driver working on my android tablet, its not a touch screen driver you need to drag it to get to click stuff. thats took a couple of days It does support an external keyboard and mouse but it loses its advantage as a tablet, bluetooth should be working but I can't get my keyboard to pair up with it compass , accelerometer gps no drivers set up yet hardware acceleration not yet( its a frame buffer).

      Yet the potential is there, libre office is installed as is the gimp there is a f

  • CedarX doesn't support any of the standard Android video deocoding APIs, so any media players that use it have to be compiled against an undocumented, closed-source library. It seems that Rockchip is hostile toward open source. The kernel that's developed by the arm-netbook community is NOT supported by Rockchip, and kernel source has actually been coming from vendors and the community. http://linux-sunxi.org/CedarX [linux-sunxi.org]
    • Cubieboard is much more interesting, at least all the pins leading to the SoC are populated on the board, including headers for IR, FM Radio, S-PDIF, SATA and a bunch of GPIO.
    • Ah no, sorry Rockchip, I meant Allwinner. Rockchip also sucks though. Freescale all the way.
  • I'm running Bodhi Linux on a netbook, which is Ubuntu underneath and the Englightment E17 DE on the surface. It's got a configuration that looks like it would be really sweet on a tablet, but I ain't got no tablet and I'm not comfortable rooting or wiping my Google Nexus 7. I'd probably get this just to run E17 on it. I know everybody loves Android but I don't know, there's a lot of special software I use that runs in a terminal environment and Android can't really do that for me, so there's at least a few

  • It was a nice idea when it came out. But we have better things these days. So we should stop trying to use JTAG directly or even indirectly, and just use better things. This is supposed to be an OPEN machine, so it should have a simple "boot from anywhere" system. So a minimal hard burned boot loader that does nothing more than find the first SD card (an external one before an internal one) with a regular bootloader on it, and loads and runs that, should be sufficient to let the owner have complete cont

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