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Bluetooth Keyboards With a 10-Year Charge Promised 270

angry tapir writes "Broadcom is working on a Bluetooth chipset that will give wireless keyboards a battery life of up to 10 years. If they had a battery life of as long as 10 years, that Bluetooth-based accessories could potentially never need new batteries, the chip maker said. A set of two AA batteries would be enough to power a keyboard using the BCM20730 Bluetooth chip to connect with a computer for its entire lifetime, Broadcom said."
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Bluetooth Keyboards With a 10-Year Charge Promised

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  • doubt it (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 07, 2011 @08:21PM (#38297670)

    what kind of batteries will not self discharge in less than 10 years even without a load ?....

  • Re:Ha! (Score:5, Interesting)

    by geekoid ( 135745 ) <dadinportland&yahoo,com> on Wednesday December 07, 2011 @08:38PM (#38297866) Homepage Journal

    Or generate tiny amount of electricity from the key press.

  • power use... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by wierd_w ( 1375923 ) on Wednesday December 07, 2011 @08:47PM (#38297950)

    tinfoil hat time!

    This bluetooth chip would draw a whopping .057mAh at 1.5v, or .0285mAh at 3v. (Assuming a 2500mAh AA cell type, with 10 years of power draw.)

    You can easily generate this using biologically inplanted power sources, or from a standard solar powered calculator's photocell, or even from a thin film thermocoupler.

    This would allow for ubiquitous bluetooth devices in a lot of surfaces, including things you would never consider to have need of a network stack.

    Hell, you could power this stack on an AM crystal radio!

  • Re:Ha! (Score:4, Interesting)

    by the_other_chewey ( 1119125 ) on Wednesday December 07, 2011 @08:54PM (#38297992)

    Yep. I call shenanigans. I doubt there's a commercially available AA battery that'll reliably keep its charge for 10 years, much less power something.

    My alarm clock (seven-segment hh:mm:ss display, radio controlled) is running on one single
    AA battery since at least late 2004, so it is going into its 8th+ year now. It is a completely standard
    1.5V AA cell made by TDK (or at least sold under their name).

    No, I haven't checked the battery for radiation yet. Yes, it is beginning to scare me a bit.

  • Re:A better idea. (Score:3, Interesting)

    by viperidaenz ( 2515578 ) on Wednesday December 07, 2011 @08:56PM (#38298012)
    The two year old running around my house is the reason I now have a wireless mouse and keyboard. Just because there is a cable attached, doesn't mean a child won't try walking away with it.
  • Re:Lithium batteries (Score:4, Interesting)

    by icebike ( 68054 ) on Wednesday December 07, 2011 @09:14PM (#38298182)

    The bluetooth spec is extensible.
    You don't have to have constant communications, you only have to answer polls, but only as often as the other side sends them.
    With just a small profile change you could minimize that to once an hour if you wanted.

  • Sounds good to me. (Score:5, Interesting)

    by anubi ( 640541 ) on Wednesday December 07, 2011 @09:57PM (#38298508) Journal
    About ten years ago, I bought a Memorex wireless keyboard at Pic-n-save aka "Big Lots".

    I think I paid about $10.

    Much to my amazement, its still running on a pair of "Everready lithium" batteries I put in when I first got it.

    I put those batteries in everything that I have a tendency to ignore maintenance on, like remotes. I have never seen one of those lithium cells leak yet.

    Its been one of those things with me that alkaline cells, regardless of who made them, leak. Even if they aren't dead yet.

    I rarely use the keyboard, but when I do, it works. It only transmits ten feet or so, but its enough. It feeds an old P166 I have loaded with DOS and WIN95 to run my old DOS stuff.

    What impressed me so was that the keyboard had no on-off switch. For ten years, the keyboard has been sitting there waiting for me to press a key.

    My hat's off to the engineer who designed the thing.

    I would not mind paying more for this keyboard's electronics in a sturdier mechanical design, but for ten bucks, I thought I got a really nice little gadget.
  • Re:Ha! (Score:5, Interesting)

    by PRMan ( 959735 ) on Wednesday December 07, 2011 @10:19PM (#38298672)
    I actually called Duracell to tell them that a clock that I got with a very loud rooster alarm every day for 12 years finally quit working. The Duracell batteries came with the clock. They asked me if there was any leakage from the 12 year old batteries and sent me a coupon.
  • by aXis100 ( 690904 ) on Wednesday December 07, 2011 @11:33PM (#38299174)

    Great. But how about they release a chipset that doesnt cost the earth in licensing fees, so that we can finally buy Bluetooth devices for less than $100.

    I swear every time I look at mice and keyboards, proprietary 2.4GHz gear can be as low as $20 and you can get something very good for $50 or $60, but anything with Bluetooth is instantly $100 plus. It's the biggest barrier to adoption that I know.

  • by ceoyoyo ( 59147 ) on Wednesday December 07, 2011 @11:51PM (#38299320)

    Crack open that battery and what do you find? A couple of standard sized lithium batteries.

  • Re:Ha! (Score:4, Interesting)

    by EdIII ( 1114411 ) on Wednesday December 07, 2011 @11:52PM (#38299324)

    Logitech has a solar keyboard right now. Will run partially off the glow from a couple of LCDs. Normal light in the room is more than enough to run the device and keep a full charge. I have seen it run off low light levels too, like a 40w table lamp.

    Would rather have that than a magnetic field in my desk.

  • Re:Ha! (Score:5, Interesting)

    by mwvdlee ( 775178 ) on Thursday December 08, 2011 @03:32AM (#38300334) Homepage

    Couldn't the bluetooth chip be powered by utilizing the kinetic energy of a human pressing a button. Many people would actually prefer a bit of physical resistance in the buttons of a keyboard.

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