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CyanogenMod Ports Android To HP TouchPad 86

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yesakmac joins the teeming hordes of successful Slashdot submitters, with this excerpt from PC World that says the frenzied effort to port Android to HP's discontinued TouchPad has actually succeeded: "CyanogenMod also released a 'lower your expectations edition' release guide to let you know exactly what is working (or not) under the hood. Modders will be happy to know that basically all the TouchPad's guts are recognized. It supports dual-booting and fake SD cards in case you need to restore the TouchPad. What does not work, though, is the camera, which can only be used for video chat. Power efficiency is still an issue, too. As for the final build, CyanogenMod says they won't be giving a hard date, and that it will be ready when it is ready."
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CyanogenMod Ports Android To HP TouchPad

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  • They still haven't ported to the iPhone.
  • by bl4nk (607569) on Thursday October 13, 2011 @05:45PM (#37706830)
    Best of all they don't take donations, like some questionable-at-best teams that quickly assembled to port Android in the wake of the fire-sale frenzy. They urge donating to the EFF instead. CyanogenMod are a classy team.

    Also, it should be noted that this build would qualify as being in the earliest of alpha stages.
    • by capedgirardeau (531367) on Thursday October 13, 2011 @07:15PM (#37707742)

      The most certainly do take donations but they encourage donations to the EFF as well if you want to instead of donating to cyanogen.

      But they still accept donations if you want to give them to cyanogen team:

      http://www.cyanogenmod.com/ [cyanogenmod.com]

      And scroll down to the bottom of the page, lower right hand side.

  • Isn't CyanogenMod the name of the mod and not the auhtor's? It should be "Cyanogen has ported..."
    • by bl4nk (607569)
      I don't believe Cyanogen himself was directly involved in this effort, so that would be inaccurate.
    • It is the other way around. Cyanogen is the user's name, CyanogenMod is the Modification of Android he built.

      • by Anonymous Coward

        Yes, so strictly speaking the title implies that Cyanogen's modified version of Android is so advanced that it's capable of doing Android development by itself.

        • Well, compared to what comes from Handset Makers, and Google itself, Cyanogen's Mod is pretty rockin version. The fact that Samsung hired the guy says something about that company looking forward. I just wish their phones were built to last all the way through a two year contract. I'd pay an extra $100 for that feature alone.

          I just wish Handset makers would realize that we don't want locked bootloaders on what is supposed to be "OPEN" platform. The whole point of Android was that it was Open.

          I just wish the

    • What's the preferred term for "Cyanogen and those who work with Cyanogen on making CyanogenMod"?
    • by TrueSpeed (576528)

      Cyanogen was not responsible for the porting CyanogenMod 7 to the HP Touchpad. The primary developer is Erik Hardesty (dalingrin).

    • by arielCo (995647)

      Credit is more accurately due to "the CyanogenMod team", who run the project started (led?) by Steve Kondik a.k.a. Cyanogen http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CyanogenMod [wikipedia.org]

    • by Jethro (14165)

      I believe the correct term is GNU/CyanogenMod

  • by xeno (2667) on Thursday October 13, 2011 @05:59PM (#37706936)

    Dammit. That's the wrong way!!! I have an HP Touchpad, and the hardware is mediocre, but WebOS is a work of art. Otoh, I also have multiple android 2.2 & honeycomb devices, and by and large they're fast and flexible, but the OS and app markets are buggy and malware-infested. Why port the middling-common-denominator OS to HP's crummy hardware? "Upgrading" the HP tablets by loading Android is like upgrading a Ford Fiesta with an Isuzu diesel. Sure it'll keep you on the road, but it ain't pretty and it ain't gonna be fun.

    What's *really* worth someone's time and effort is a port of WebOS to better hardware. Ginmme an illicit port of WebOS to some of the nicer Samsung 5-10in tablets, the Lenovo K tablet, etc etc (anything with more ports and a faster proc) and I'd be all over it.

    • by bl4nk (607569)
      What's wrong with choice? The real inescapable problem with the TouchPad is the anemic state of the market. There just aren't many apps built for the tablet; the ones that are aren't very good. I agree, webOS is fantastic--especially the multitasking--but beyond that, it's not capable of doing much more than browsing the web using an incredible rudimentary browser.
    • WebOS is really nice; got to love the multi-tasking.

      But let's look at some of the bad parts.

      A browser that is unusable if you have more than a few websites open. A complete lack of apps (even after installing preware).

      Even after overclocking to 1.8Ghz, it takes a good 5 seconds after turning a PDF page for it to "unblur" and come into focus. Oh, and the browser does that same blurry, unfocused crap too. Often for more than 15 seconds.
      • You overclocked a tablet? Really? Why do you hate your battery?

        Have you tried some tweaks [precentral.net] to fix the source of some of the problems first?
        yeah, they're a start, but still not enough...
        • by NetJunkie (56134)

          It does very little to the battery. It scales up in speed as needed and then back down to like 192MHz when idle. Mine is at 1.7GHz and battery has been just fine. After tweaks and OC it's not bad at all...especially for $149. Good enough that I sold my iPad 1.

          Link to an easy walkthrough I did on tweaking the Touchpad:

          http://jasonnash.com/2011/09/05/tweaking-that-new-hp-touchpad-you-just-got/ [jasonnash.com]

        • You overclocked a tablet? Really? Why do you hate your battery?

          Have you tried some tweaks [precentral.net] to fix the source of some of the problems first?
          yeah, they're a start, but still not enough...

          Overclocking mobile devices often results in better battery life. It can do the work faster at the higher clock and then return to a lower clock sooner, saving you battery.

      • by teaserX (252970)

        A complete lack of apps (even after installing preware).

        Really, it's this. I'll probably use my Touchpad alot more now that I have CM/Android market on it but I already miss flicking stuff off of the screen.
        In a perfect world WebOS developement carries on as FOSS.

    • by xeno (2667)

      Just to be clear, I'm a serious fan of Cyanogen's work from the Zaurus era (went thru several generations of SL & C using his and others' work), and appreciate the effort that has gone into this. But as others have pointed out, the HP is going to some effort to ensure the hardware is a dead end, while WebOS remains a high-end viable platform and the dev base is very much alive. Seems if you're going to work on a niche market ubergeek-OS-mod, you ought to have higher goals.

      • by jschottm (317343)

        Really? A platform that's how many years old now and doesn't have a usable web browser (most browsers figured out that opening tabs in the background was good years ago and I've not seen a browser that didn't remember how far down in the previous page you were when you click back since the mid 90s) or (non-Kindle) e-reader application is what you think is a high-end platform with a alive dev base?

    • Dammit. That's the wrong way!!! I have an HP Touchpad, and the hardware is mediocre, but WebOS is a work of art. Otoh, I also have multiple android 2.2 & honeycomb devices, and by and large they're fast and flexible, but the OS and app markets are buggy and malware-infested. Why port the middling-common-denominator OS to HP's crummy hardware? "Upgrading" the HP tablets by loading Android is like upgrading a Ford Fiesta with an Isuzu diesel. Sure it'll keep you on the road, but it ain't pretty and it ain't gonna be fun.

      What's *really* worth someone's time and effort is a port of WebOS to better hardware. Ginmme an illicit port of WebOS to some of the nicer Samsung 5-10in tablets, the Lenovo K tablet, etc etc (anything with more ports and a faster proc) and I'd be all over it.

      The Touchpad's hardware isn't really a problem relative to other tablets. The Galaxy Tabs and iPads have similar guts; they're only significantly better in the GPU end of things. I think that you really want a redesign of WebOS to make it more efficient without ditching the UI.

    • I picked up a Touchpad in the sale and I agree that the WebOS interface is lovely. Easiest the nicest of any tablet OS I've tried (Android 3.2 & IOS). But it's just too damn laggy even when overclocked and hacked to bits. What some of the early (disclaimers apply) Andoird-on-Touchpad benchmarks are showing is that the hardware is actually pretty good, significantly faster than the Tegra 2 tablets. If you put WebOS on the hardware you suggested it would run even slower. The physical build quality of
      • Yup. I picked up a Touchpad during the fire sale too. I /just/ received it yesterday. First impression was "oh hey, it's got a nice gouge in it, it's probably a refurb." Second was "yup, this is beta quality software." And the third was "yup, it's really slow to respond." It's got a 1.2 gigahertz dual core Snapdragon. It should be more than fast enough for tablet use.

        Yes, webOS 3.0.2 is beta quality software at best. It's pretty, but it's got lots of rough edges. For instance, DHCP is disabled by d

        • Cool. I just went through the process of importing a self-signed certificate. Annoying because you don't get any clue from the mail app what the problem was (nice touch, HP). More annoying because you can't save "inline" text files to disk from the browser. Comical because once you add the certificate, the first one in the list is inaccessible (it's hidden by the header). And just downright painful because it took about 45 seconds to actually import it after tapping "Done". It's kinda like they didn't

    • by jittles (1613415)
      Actually, I have an Android and HP Touchpad tablet. I used to prefer the Android Tablet as it was faster and more reliable. Battery life was also better. Then I found an article online talking about improving the Touchpad's speed by disabling all the logging they do on the blasted device. Now my HP Touchpad is faster and more responsive than my Transformer, or an iPad 2
      • by Anonymous Coward

        Info available several places, including here -- http://www.zdnet.com/blog/mobile-news/how-to-improve-the-performance-of-your-new-hp-touchpad/3866

    • Why port the middling-common-denominator OS to HP's crummy hardware? "Upgrading" the HP tablets by loading Android is like upgrading a Ford Fiesta with an Isuzu diesel. Sure it'll keep you on the road, but it ain't pretty and it ain't gonna be fun.

      The problem with WebOS is it's future existence. When the future of an OS is questioned so is the future of its apps. Android and iOS have been getting better with every release. Their application pool is continuously growing. The usefulness of a device running these OSes is continuously growing.

      The same can not be said for a WebOS.

      A car analogy would be upgrading your home made cooking fat powered car by putting in a diesel engine from a commercial vehicle which doesn't quite fit. It may not look pretty bu

  • It's an alpha build, but it works extremely well on my 32GB Touchpad. You also get the best of both worlds by being able to boot into either WebOS or Android.

  • I got one of the TouchPads on the firesale and while I have been pleasantly surprised by how excellent the user interface is in WebOS I must say that the quality of apps available is not good enough. My demands for a tablet are quite modest in terms of available software but, too take an example, since it is a tablet I expect at least a good pdf reading experience. The pdf reader on the TouchPad has no features beyond the definition of a pdf reader. I can't annotate pdfs and I can't invert the colors to mak
    • by TrueSpeed (576528)

      My sentiments exactly. The app selection in the HP marketplace is very slim pickings. Regardless of how good the user experience is the lack of applications just nullifies every argument in favor of the Touchpad. You never really understand how important an ecosystem is until you're dependent on it. Had Android not been ported to the Touchpad I would sold it a long time ago. I'll probably never get rid of the WebOS partition because it's still an interesting OS to use. It was actually a bit of a shock

      • steal some ui elements? are you crazy? thats like, 14 bajillion dollars worth of damage in patent infringing tech. Injunctions would be issued, and in the end HP would own huge portions of google. well, not really, but still. I'm sure the results would be ridiculous.
    • by cciardi (549281)
      Same thoughts. WebOS functioned quite well. I believe the reason it didn't take off is very simple. No apps and HORRIFIC phones. IMO, had WebOS been married to a nice HTC phone phone (ie Incredible, EVO) it may have made some inroads. Another one bites the dust
  • I've been following this project since they first announced it and got a Touchpad through the firesale. I got it installed today and here's what I can say about it:

    Cyanogen calling it pre alpha is kind of underselling it. It's quite usable. The only nasty problem for my purposes is that the wifi is kind of flakey. I've heard power management isn't so great yet but I've had it plugged in the entire day. I've loaded Tunein, Netflix, Pandora, all the different emulators and they all seem to work.

    So nice w

  • Now if only you could FIND one of those cheap Touchpads....
    • by JWSmythe (446288)

          That's what the fire sale was for. It's not like it wasn't all over the news, and every tech site before it happened.

      • Actually it wasn't. It was all over tech sites later in the day after it started, once almost all of them had already been sold.
        • by JWSmythe (446288)

          Not really. It may have been later in the day that *you* read it.

          I saw the news stories. I even heard it on the evening TV news. I started checking places to buy that night, and didn't find anything available yet. I kept checking overnight. It was something like 6am Eastern that BestBuy made their inventory available at the new price, so I purchased mine. It was at about 9:30am that I could no longer purchase from them. Other outlets still showed stock in their stores l

    • by Tarmas (954439)
      You can still get a brand new Touchpad for $220-240 for the 16 GB model. That's still cheap for a tablet like this.
  • ...you could continue to run webOS on the damn thing. Since, you know... it's better and all. I still cannot find the appeal of Android. Maybe I'm not looking hard enough, but something tells me I shouldn't have to.

  • I installed the CM7 uh.. mod into my Touchpad and so far it works great. There are two bugs I've noticed, one of them very minor, the other somewhat major.

    Firstly, when installing the mod into the tablet, I noticed that it deleted all of my comics on the webOS portion. I had a small stash of comics to read using the comicHD app, and they were deleted. Not a problem, I have backups, so that's a tiny issue that is easily resolved.

    The other thing I noticed is that if the tablet is allowed to sit idle for

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