Commodore 64 Primed For a Comeback In June 330
angry tapir writes "The Commodore 64 is getting a makeover, with a new design and some of the latest computing technologies, as the brand gets primed for a comeback. The revamped computer will be available through the Commodore USA online store, which is set to open June 1. The computer will be an all-in-one keyboard, with Intel's 64-bit quad-core microprocessors and 3D graphics capabilities."
A Commodore In Name Only (Score:5, Informative)
TFA says it's an Intel x86 based machine running Windows. The only thing Commodore about this thing is that it's built in to an oversized PC-style keyboard, and even that's a stretch. This is a Commodore in name only.
Re:Clear Hoax (Score:2, Informative)
Not Commodore 64 (Score:3, Informative)
It's called the "Phoenix". "Commodore" is just the brand.
Re:Pick your OS flavor? (Score:5, Informative)
Lawyers.
Re:Riding the back of nostalgia. (Score:5, Informative)
Unless the latest outfit wearing a mask made from Commodore's flayed face is simply stealing clip art, what they are selling is a simple rebadge of Cybernet's "ZPC" [cybernetman.com]. Those things have been around at least since the P4 was the face of "intel inside" possibly earlier. Unless Cybernet is an ass about small quantities or something, there is absolutely no reason to order from some fly-by-night rebadge house; but the product is real enough, and presumably has enough of a niche(probably space constrained POS applications and similar) to justify the engineering costs of shoving a laptop motherboard into a keyboard housing for the past few generations of x86 hardware.
Looks just like a ZPC to me (Score:2, Informative)
This is simply a Cybernet ZPC-GX31 system (Score:3, Informative)
Circa March 2008:
http://www.cybernetman.com/en/products/zero-footprint-pc/zpc-gx31.cfm [cybernetman.com]
They even reused the stock footage.
Should cost at least $700, according to Gizmodo Australia:
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2008/03/cybernet_zpcgx31_a_pc_in_a_keyboardsized_case-2/ [gizmodo.com.au]
Re:HDTVs with VGA input (Score:3, Informative)
Still, I wonder why it's VGA input. Why not DVI?
TVs tend to have both VGA and HDMI inputs. But a lot of computers, especially netbooks and the like, have room for only one output.
HDMI seems to be present on all HDTVs, but not DVI... I wonder why...
Because HDMI is signal-compatible with DVI, and a cable from a computer's DVI output to a TV's HDMI input is under $10 on Amazon.
Re:Clear Hoax (Score:5, Informative)
Wouldn't say it's a hoax... This keyboard PC has been on the market for years. This company [cybernetman.com] sells it as the ZPC (for Zero-footprint PC).
Frankly, I wondered why it took so long for someone to decide to rebadge one as a Commodore. It was the first thing that came to my mind when I saw it.
Re:The C64, an eulogy (Score:2, Informative)
He advocated a computer 'for the classes, not for the masses'.
Jack Tramiel's Wikipedia entry. [wikipedia.org]
Um... wiki article says:
It was during this time period that he coined the famous phrase, "We need to build computers for the masses, not the classes."
Re:64-bit?! (Score:3, Informative)
Re:The C64, an eulogy (Score:4, Informative)
Jack Tramiel may be an unsung hero of the personal computer, but he also had the dubious distinction of playing key roles in the destruction of two of the most important computer companies of the era, Commodore and later, Atari.
Tramiel - and more importantly, his engineers - is often left out in the modern retelling of the personal computer story, which is often presented as if everything that wasn't Intel, Microsoft, and Apple was some sort of bizarre tangental experiment that really didn't matter. Sadly, his management style was typical of the small-minded businessman, who treated his company as a fief and a playground for his personal grudges.
I often wonder how the Amiga would have fared long-term if a more competently-managed company than Commodore had bought it.
Re:Clear Hoax (Score:5, Informative)
I suspect that you had no first-hand experience with the 64, or that you experience was well after its heyday. When introduced, the 64 was more capable than most of its competitors and lower-priced as well. Remember, we are talking about a machine that occupied store shelves unchanged (save for cosmetic and cost reductions) for over a decade. By the time home users of any machine were considering hard drives, the C64's day was long-since over. At launch, its graphics were among the top available and its sound capabilities blew absolutely everything in the consumer market out of the water. Yes, the serial disk interface was slow even by 1982 standards, but only as an early example of a company opting for backwards compatibility over performance. The fast loader programs and cartridges didn't do some kind of magic, or fix a bug that Commodore let ship for 11 years; They simply rewrote the disk drive code to favor speed over compatibility with old PET systems.
Re:Riding the back of nostalgia. (Score:2, Informative)
Not hoax, but rebranding of existing product. (Score:4, Informative)
Seriously, compare these two pictures: Zero Footprint PC [cybernetman.com] and "new" Commodore 64 [commodoreusa.net]. Looks similar?
Re:64-bit?! (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Clear Hoax (Score:4, Informative)
Don't get too impressed with yourself. You missed the obvious part. Look at the filename.
http://www.commodoreusa.net/i//zpc9100_full.jpg [commodoreusa.net]
It's over 3 years old, and has nothing to do with Commodore, except someone set up a crappy site with the name on it to get the Commodore fans all wound up.
A 2007 article about the ZPC9100 [pclaunches.com]
Or the real manufacturer site [cybernetman.com]
I'm not surprised it was shot with an expensive camera, the *REAL* manufacturer had those done by a professional, I'm sure.
Any of the rest of the crap in the summary or on their site can be assumed to be absolute BS. But hey, for those interested I have a 16 core 4THz machine with 32TB RAM that's the size of a matchhead. It runs off of a patented method for gathering and storing static electricity from the air, and interfaces to all external devices (display, HID, etc) wirelessly. I'll start selling them for $1,950,000. If I sell one I can move to a nice island. If I sell 1000 I'll buy the island. Err, I mean, ummm, we'll reinvest in the company to make our products even better. :)