Chinese Researcher Says US Power Grid Is Vulnerable, Strategist Overreacts 203
An anonymous reader writes with a story about Wang Jianwei, a grad student in China who recently released a paper detailing a vulnerability in the US power grid. Despite the paper being rather typical for security research, its origin set off alarm bells for military strategist Larry M. Wortzel, who testified before Congress that the student was a threat, despite the fact that the published attack wasn't really feasible. Quoting:
"'We usually say "attack" so you can see what would happen,' [Wang] said. 'My emphasis is on how you can protect this. My goal is to find a solution to make the network safer and better protected.' And independent American scientists who read his paper said it was true: Mr. Wang's work was a conventional technical exercise that in no way could be used to take down a power grid. The difference between Mr. Wang's explanation and Mr. Wortzel’s conclusion is of more than academic interest. It shows that in an atmosphere already charged with hostility between the United States and China over cybersecurity issues, including large-scale attacks on computer networks, even a misunderstanding has the potential to escalate tension and set off an overreaction. 'Already people are interpreting this as demonstrating some kind of interest that China would have in disrupting the US power grid,' said Nart Villeneuve, a researcher with the SecDev Group, an Ottawa-based cybersecurity research and consulting group."
It would be better (Score:1, Interesting)
for the US Govt to give this kid a job, rather than letting the chinese use his talents.
(Or some other 3rd party like Iran)
This is just silly, but no harm done. (Score:2, Interesting)
China has no interes in us (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Couldn't Happen (Score:3, Interesting)
since you guys beat the Russians financially I think that is debatable.
Re:Still doesn't make it a non-threat. (Score:4, Interesting)
I would say that it's not only the US power grid that's vulnerable. It's power grids and users all over the world that are vulnerable to threats.
So I would say that the report hardly surprises me. Coordinated attacks on power lines in areas hard to access in a part of a country and then a follow up with some anti-aircraft weapons to take down the maintenance helicopters and you have a big problem. Take out a number of transformers and you can really sit back and see that those oddballs insisting on collecting firewood are the survivors while the rest are running around in circles. Especially tough in the middle of the winter.
Secondary effects of a prolonged power outage would be telecom breakdowns, water and sewage plant failures, failure to get fuels for vehicles etc. Those are just the direct and obvious effects. The economy would be taking a major hit at the same time.
Just figure out if there were a coordinated attack that cut off electricity to many major cities at the same time. It would make what happened in New Orleans when Katrina had struck just an exercise.
Re:Still doesn't make it a non-threat. (Score:3, Interesting)
"Take out a number of transformers and you can really sit back and see that those oddballs insisting on collecting firewood are the survivors while the rest are running around in circles. Especially tough in the middle of the winter."
This is going to derail the discussion massively, but I read a neat article recently which pointed out that survivalists, preparers etc are sort of missing the bigger picture. If the world goes to hell in a handcart and you're the one sitting pretty on a two hundred year supply of tinned goods, what that makes you is a _really juicy target_ for all the people who don't have a two hundred year supply of tinned goods. Sure, the nuttier survivalists have lots of guns, but this is America, right? Not only the survivalists have guns. Wouldn't be hard for an angry mob to get sufficiently tooled-up to take out and subsequently rob the stores of any given well-prepared paranoiac...
so, yeah, in the long run, it's all a bit of a waste of effort =)
Re:Couldn't Happen (Score:3, Interesting)
And I question that we "beat them financially"
While I don't know about "financially" (since the USSR didn't organize its finances in an easily comparable way) it's reasonably clear that it was economically where the USA and its allies were ahead of the USSR (and their allies). In particular, the west was able to sustain a higher level of military spending without crippling the rest of its economy.
Of course, we only really knew how bad things had got through the '70s and early '80s quite a bit later, and that wasn't a period when the Maniacs of Wall Street weren't so thoroughly set on the course which lead to the current recession. 20 years is quite a long time in human affairs.