Next-Gen Glitter-Sized Photovoltaic Cells Unveiled 155
MikeChino writes "Sandia National Laboratories recently announced a new breed of glitter-sized solar cells made from crystalline silicon that use 100 times less material to generate the same amount of electricity as standard solar cells made from 6-inch square solar wafers. Perfect for soaking up the sun’s rays on unusual shapes and surfaces, the tiny solar cells are expected to be less expensive, more efficient, and have promising new applications in textiles, clothing, and building facade installations."
and I bet (Score:4, Insightful)
When can I buy it (Score:3, Insightful)
Like most sensational announcements of breakthroughs in engineering on Slashdot; If I can't buy products that use it at my local hardware store or via Amazon for my iphone/laptop/electronic device, it might as well not exist.
So what that it was invented. The REAL story would be an announcement of a product that will be SOLD. This story is just a teaser.
cheap highpower photocells, the ultimate vaporwear (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm [slashdot.org] kind [slashdot.org] of [slashdot.org] getting [slashdot.org] tired [slashdot.org] of [slashdot.org] it. [slashdot.org]
Re:When can I buy it (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:cheap highpower photocells, the ultimate vaporw (Score:2, Insightful)
"or lower the cost to nearly free?"
I think the term you are looking for is 'too cheap to meter' :-\
How do you wire them up? (Score:2, Insightful)
There's more than efficiency to consider. (Score:4, Insightful)
"TOP....MEN..." (Score:1, Insightful)
I'd imagine that in the same warehouse with the Ark of the Covenant, the process for Cold Fusion, the Cure for Cancer, and a thousand other sources of cheap energy....a spot for this gem is being cleared.
Re:When can I buy it (Score:2, Insightful)
If you're not interested in science en technology news then /. is not the site for you.
There are plenty other sites that do only product reviews.
How to use the electricity? (Score:3, Insightful)
Let's get the econ right (Score:4, Insightful)
I'm awfully tired of these articles predicting something will be better, cheaper to make and therefore much cheaper to buy.
Nothing in the history of the world that is better than an existing product has been sold for less.
Things end up being sold at a price very near what they're worth to the end user, which often has no relation to their cost of manufacture. Think of perfume, diamonds, or celebrity-diet plans.
Also for something exposed to the elements that has to last many years, there are so many ways to fail. Temperature cycles, moisture, UV, hail, corrosion-- all of these have to protected against,
and the cost of these goes up as you make the cells smaller and more fragile.
It's swell to have better (in some sense) cells, but that's just a small part of the overall picture.
Re:There's more than efficiency to consider. (Score:3, Insightful)
You don't need econ101 voodoo where something of infinite value which lasts forever is discounted to nothing to show that more efficient cells that don't cost much more and have a similar long lifespan are worth it (and especially so if they cost less than some things in use).
Cost is all important. 2 devices might both last 500 years, and one might be 3 times as efficient as the other. But if it costs 10 times as much, it's not going to fly with average Mr Commercial.
If I want to kit my house out with solar panels, it wouldn't make sense to buy the more expensive one. Sure it might pay off as the centuries tick by, but that just doesn't enter in to it. You want something affordable now, which will pay off over the next few years before you move house/die.
Only makes it worse (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Let's get the econ right (Score:3, Insightful)
I'm awfully tired of these articles predicting something will be better, cheaper to make and therefore much cheaper to buy.
Nothing in the history of the world that is better than an existing product has been sold for less.
You ever looked at the prices of, say, TV sets, or..... PCs?
Re:When can I buy it (Score:3, Insightful)
It has been said that in general Americans hate science intensely and distrust scientists but love technology - hence the evolution, vaccination and climate change fiascos going on in the USA when it is accepted elsewhere.
Is that the view you have or am I just looking at things far too simplisticly?
Oh, no, you've nailed it squarely on the head. Ignorance is easy -- just stop doing hard stuff like going to school, and there you are -- ignorant. Those who follow that path usually end up working hard in low paying jobs, resentful of the intellectuals who have "easy" high paying jobs. And they pass this prejudice to their ignorant children, who are in no position to understand why their mom and dad work hard but make no money, but dad's boss, the MBA, makes lots of money for doing "nothing". Thus we have an entire class of self-selected, auto-perpetuating, anti-intellectuals. The problem is that it takes logic to understand the problem, and it takes an education to understand the logic required to understand the problem. Catch 22.
The thing about the large pool of uneducated people is that they still have the right to vote. And being uneducated, they're much easier to manipulate with advertising and sloganeering -- yet their votes count equal to those of educated people.
As a result, politicians figured out centuries ago that a pro-science platform can never get enough votes to win: there is a limited set of people with the education required to understand a scientific point, and half of those will disagree with your other political positions. So they instead pander to the uneducated people with patriotic slogans and religion, which easily locks up a good half of the voters for cheap. A science-based platform would only alienate them. For example, George Bush hid his Yale education and east coast privileged upbringing as best as he could, and donned a cowboy hat and a Texas ranch in order to get votes from the anti-intellectuals. It obviously works.
Those of us who have educations certainly don't help the situation any when we dismiss their uneducated opinions; but it's impossible to have a discussion when the political opponents trot out their slogans and promote ignorance instead of debating facts. We can't even restore intelligent dialog in this kind of environment. (I guess that's been the curse of politics since forever.)
It is funny to see these fake anti-intellectuals outed. Jon Stewart, host of The Daily Show (a comedic take on the news) recently skewered a far-right-wing TV show host, Gretchen Carlson, who attempts to identify herself with the "dumb soccer mom" crowd. In a recent show she said something like "Now I don't know what an ignoramus is, so I googled it, and found it meant an ignorant lawyer or uneducated person." She also claimed not to know what a "czar" was, so she had to google that word too. Jon pointed out that she graduated from Stanford with honors, and questioned whether someone that well-educated could possibly not know what an ignoramus or czar is. (Sadly, the dumb soccer moms don't have the education required to appreciate The Daily Show, so his efforts are usually wasted anyway.)