$860 Million In Fines Handed Out For LCD Price-Fixing 151
eldavojohn writes "Six companies have pleaded guilty to worldwide price fixing of Thin-Film Transistor Liquid Crystal Displays from Sept. 14, 2001, to Dec. 1, 2006. For violating the Sherman Act, the companies have agreed to pay criminal fines of over $860 Million. In addition, nine executives have been charged in the scandal. The pricing scam affected some of the largest companies at the time, including Apple, HP and Dell. (If you bought a TFT-LCD from them in that time frame, you may be one of the victimized consumers.) From the DOJ release, 'According to the charge, Chi Mei carried out the conspiracy by agreeing during meetings, conversations and communications to charge prices of TFT-LCD panels at certain pre-determined levels and issuing price quotations in accordance with the agreements reached. As a part of the conspiracy, Chi Mei exchanged information on sales of TFT-LCD panels for the purpose of monitoring and enforcing adherence to the agreed-upon prices.'"
Re:ok what? (Score:5, Informative)
so what exactly happened? the article is long on confusion and short on explanations.
Someone got really greedy. Someone else caught them and is now going to use that fact to advance their political career. Some stockholders will suffer and a handful of executives will spend a few years in white collar resort prison.
Re:ok what? (Score:5, Informative)
A little addendum: the final fine may vary from the stated amount. According to the document, the maximum fine may be increased to twice the amount illegally gained by the company or twice the amount of loss suffered by the victims. While 860 million USD seems a bit low, I expect the final number to be higher. (Or the given number could be a sort of "plea bargain" amount. I'm not sure.)
Re:Apple's Price Fixing (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Apple's Price Fixing (Score:4, Informative)
> By being involved with the price fixing...
Apple was one of the _victims_. The conspirators were some (all?) of the manufacurers who supply displays to Apple, Dell, and HP.
Re:Apple selling same LCDs FOREVER. (Score:3, Informative)
Is this at all related to Apple selling the same model Cinema Displays [macrumors.com] since April, 2007? 982 days without a refresh, following an average of 230.
Maybe, only because Apple is only able to sell displays based on demand but were paying prices on the supply side that were artificially higher than demand. If the price-fixing stops (and this is a good sign that it has or will), presumably there will be more profits for Apple, Dell, HP, etc in LCD displays and we may therefore look forward to refreshed product lines. Price fixing can have far-reaching consequences in a global market.
Re:ok what? (Score:5, Informative)
This article is of course for the criminal action and not any civil suits. Naturally, there is a proposed class action in the US for those who were victimized:
http://www.lieffcabraser.com/antitrust/lcd-antitrust.htm [lieffcabraser.com]
The suit is for:
All persons and entities who, between January 1, 1996 and December 11, 2006, directly purchased a TFT-LCD Product in the United States from any defendant or any subsidiary or affiliate thereof, or any co-conspirator. Excluded from the Class are defendants, their parent companies, subsidiaries and affiliates, any co-conspirators, all governmental entities, and any judges or justices assigned to hear any aspect of this action.
From what it says the motion to dismiss based on lack of evidence has been thrown out. Will they settle? Will their lawyers eventually be able to squish it like a little bug? What will the payout be? That's anybody's guess. Might be worth getting on board if you were a firm that bought a ton of LCDs in that time though... I would imagine that if there was a payout, it would be per infraction rather than per customer, right? I admit that this is well outside my area of expertise.
Re:I just wonder (Score:3, Informative)
Well, let's see, in the US, officially-government-sanctioned price-fixing oligopolies include oranges, almonds, cranberries, and raisins. Then of course there is anything covered by a patent. Or any resource that is mined from government leases. And then there's other industries that supply the military, such as airplanes, car companies, steel and weapons manufacturers, which are all protected and subsidized. Then you have licensed trades, electricians, plumbers, construction workers, truck-drivers and hair-stylists. And of course finally there are licensed professionals such as doctors, lawyers, nurses, and engineers. I probably missed somebody.
Re:I just wonder (Score:2, Informative)
unless you want "true" compact flash which faithfully implements the true IDE standard (I.E. to use them with an IDE-CF adapter, instead of in a digital camera)... those got rebadged as "Industrial CF" and cost like $200.
I use the $20 CF cards I find on e-bay with an IDE adapter. You might have to manually set the BIOS to recognize them, but other than that they seem to work fine.
Re:ok what? (Score:5, Informative)
*150 billion new Taiwan dollards equals about 4 billion dollars
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Taiwan_dollar
Re:Ugh (Score:3, Informative)
However, you can definitely be charged and found guilty of conspiring, even if 'other alleged parties' to the conspiracy have not yet been charged, or are still under investigation.
The companies involved will most likely all be overseas companies you don't care much about. Most of the manufacturers of the TFT screens are overseas.
The companies the average US person has heard of (such as Dell, HP, etc) who sell monitors, are OEMs. That is, the manufacturers (such as the ones who do the price fixing) supply the screen. OEMs design and build an actual monitor using the OEM'd TFT, other OEM'd parts (and parts designed by the OEM), and ship the final product.
The TFT is just one of many components required to build an LCD monitor. Another manufacturer (very possibly) makes the backlight. And yet another company might make the plastic body.
From TFA, however:
Re:Apple selling same LCDs FOREVER. (Score:3, Informative)
The Dell LCDs at my work can rotate to a long vertical orientation.
Re:I just wonder (Score:2, Informative)
Yay for ridiculous over simplification of the economics.
This is painfully simple to understand yet you seem to believe they're just magical terms to take away corporations' god given right to fleece every penny out of the community.
Undercutting: A company spends $200 on parts and labor, sells the product for $150; or they can employ people for minimum wage and sacrifice quality standards to actually make that price sustainable. If all the other competitors can't beat that price without sacrificing quality or features then they have been undercut. [This term is somewhat nebulous as it can be abused as an emotive response]
Gouging: Company spends $200 on parts and labor, sells at $400+. Obviously, no one in their right mind, who understands the specifications, is going to pay that so you just drown out the competition or trick customers using marketing (eg. DVDs will only look 'right' on an official Apple Cinema Display with panorama vision[TM]). In electronics, special plugs that are only available on other products that you sell are also a good way to do this, same with cars.
Price Fixing: Two or more companies spend $200 on parts and labor, they compete on price until they only sell the product at, say, $205 which isn't very profitable so they join forces to simultaneously raise their prices to $250 so you can't get out of paying the inflated price unless you just go without. It's also a great way to terminate competition since you are no longer competing with someone who operates on your terms, the MAFIAA are very big on this with the price of CDs for example.