Microsoft Secret Prototype Phone Stolen 249
bossanovalithium writes to tell us that details are emerging about the theft of a top secret prototype mobile device stolen from an executive's pocket. Time to start watching eBay. "There are fears that leaks regarding the features and early bugs in the software could mar the launch of Windows Mobile 6.5 which the company hopes will give it the edge over the iPhone and the new Google Android operating system. The new product includes support for touch-screen technology similar to that found on the Apple iPhone. Among the features offered in the new service unveiled by Microsoft's chief executive, Steve Ballmer, on Tuesday, is a version of Windows Marketplace for Mobiles, which is set to compete with the popular Apple's App Store and provide easy ways to download music and products to mobiles. "
andnothingofvaluewaslost (Score:5, Insightful)
An edge? (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm not apple fanboy, but explain again how having a phone that will have a touchscreen like the iPhone and an online music store like iTunes is supposed to give Microsoft an "edge" over Apple.
Re:andnothingofvaluewaslost (Score:2, Insightful)
Why would they be building a phone; another area that they are not good at.
See also: Portable media players
--adzaar
Unambitous version number (Score:4, Insightful)
While you're at it, explain why, if WM 6 is ho-hum, and this new OS is better than the iPhone's, it only rates a 6.5 version number.
I would think you'd need to rebuild WM from the ground up to compete with the iPhone. (The new Palm OS looks fairly promising in that regard.)
Re:Unambitous version number (Score:5, Insightful)
Windows Mobile 6.5 apparently doesn't even support Capacitive touch screens. It is also lacking in anything really interesting, according to one engadget reporter. It IS kind of pretty. [engadget.com]
Think about it though, in the history of computing, what competitive advantage has Microsoft ever had? Nothing, except momentum, starting with momentum given to them by IBM. It has always been enough for them to make a cheap copy of someone else's technology at a later date, making it 'good enough.' That is there only competitive advantage. And it's worked amazingly well for them. So it is understandable that Balmer would think a product that does nothing other than what their competitors already do would give them a competitive advantage. It always has before.
Re:An edge? (Score:5, Insightful)
The real edge is that the Exchange client actually works on Windows Mobile.
You're talking about Exchange, and you think it's just the client that doesn't work?
Re:An edge? (Score:5, Insightful)
Not to start a flame war or a vocal-minority thing here, but am I alone in having virtually no issues at all with iPhone's ActiveSync capability? I've been using it for work email since day one and haven't had a single issue.
This being an open forum, there will always be people complaining about their problems with device nnn - and they'll generally assume their problems are universal and the fault of the vendor.
In a case like the GPs, for all we know he's using a jailbroken iPhone, or trying to run a bastardized copy of the iPhone OS on a user-modified Palm Pilot for that matter. Or he may not even own an iPhone, but just heard from some guy that the "iPawn's ActiveSync sux0rz". I'm not saying any of this actually represents the facts - just that, when an lone individual makes vague/sweeping comments, we just have no idea of the facts.
Re:how much you want to bet... (Score:5, Insightful)
What's wrong with cascading menus is that there's not enough real-estate on a mobile device to do them well. It becomes an exercise in patience and fine motor skills. It takes a remarkable number of gestures to get to some arbitrary app (up to seven on the WM phone I suffered with for 3 months) and there isn't enough real-estate to put all the apps one commonly uses on the front page. Cascading menus are OK on a PC, endurable (barely) on a netbook, and intolerable on a mobile device. Microsoft apparently thinks that users will endure decreased usability and eyestrain for a consistent interface across their PC, netbook and mobile devices. It appears that in some cases they're right. But I suspect it's because the users haven't adequately explored the alternatives.
What is important on a mobile device is navigation on a small screen with imprecise gestures. The best I've ever experienced was a tab-based interface (LauncherX) on Palm -- you move between screens of applications by rocking left and right, and rock down to choose an app. I had about 40 apps in 5 categories and could get to any of them in 2-3 seconds. The second best was the iPod Touch -- wiping to different screens of apps is fast and something a toddler could pick up in minutes. Third is Blackberry, (trackball) which only has one "page" but supports hierarchical folders. Even at that, you have to choose your app placement carefully to avoid spending all your time opening and closing folders. The absolute worst is tapping "Start", then "Programs", then "Accessories", then "Entertainment" and so forth. Try another gui -- practically any other current mobile gui -- and you'll find that just about any operation is faster and more intuitive.
Re:andnothingofvaluewaslost (Score:5, Insightful)
This struck me from TFS:
They're afraid people will find out about their poorly designed, buggy phones. Mod me troll if you wish, but I've seen few MS designs that weren't counterintuitive, ass-backwards, without the end user's needs or wants in mind.
Re:Your sig has a stupid link (Score:1, Insightful)
Are you retarded or something? Do the pictures of web sites you visit come by mail for you?