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Netgear Launches Open Source-Friendly Wireless Router 182

An anonymous reader submits news of Netgear's release of the "open source Wireless-G Router (model WGR614L), enabling Linux developers and enthusiasts to create firmware for specialized applications, and supported by a dedicated open source community. The router supports the most popular open source firmware; Tomato and DD-WRT are available on WGR614L, making it easier for users to develop a wide variety of applications. The router is targeted at people who want custom firmware on their router without worrying about issues, and enjoy the benefits of having an open source wireless router."
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Netgear Launches Open Source-Friendly Wireless Router

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  • by schnikies79 ( 788746 ) on Saturday June 28, 2008 @08:17PM (#23986163)

    I would rather wait till they finalize the spec.

  • by zolf13 ( 941799 ) on Saturday June 28, 2008 @08:27PM (#23986229)
    The problem is how to use the same "free" radio frequency (2.4 GHz) both for "b/g" and "n" without interferencing each other.
  • Re:no USB? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Nossie ( 753694 ) <IanHarvieNO@SPAM4Development.Net> on Saturday June 28, 2008 @08:35PM (#23986285)

    and no gigabit ethernet? wake me up when I can get a netgear adsl wireless n+ router with fricking gigabit ethernet!

    open source or not I'd buy it :(

  • by devjj ( 956776 ) * on Saturday June 28, 2008 @09:11PM (#23986501)

    802.11n operates on 5Ghz as well.

    It's time to start ditching backward compatibility. Every refresh of the 802.11 spec does not have to have backward compatibility. Backward compatibility here just serves to increase the distance between theoretical maximums and actual observed speeds.

    I run a dual-router setup on my home network. I've got a Linksys WRT54Gv4 running Tomato alongside an Apple Airport Extreme. The WRT fills the job of router as well as 802.11g (802.11b is turned off) access point, while the AEBN is configured to work as an 802.11n wireless bridge on the 5Ghz band. Actual throughput is far faster on this setup than on a single device serving everything.

    I know there are practical reasons for backward compatibility, but we need to get off our love affair with it. Keep it in enterprise hardware, but for consumers, make a clean break. There's no reason why we can't have an abundance of cheap 802.11b/g devices and a separate class of devices for 802.11n. There's no reason one can't run both if one needs both. The convenience offered by a single package just makes it worse for everyone in the long run.

  • by msauve ( 701917 ) on Saturday June 28, 2008 @09:20PM (#23986539)
    only some parts - it still uses the precompiled, no-source-code Broadcom binary.

    It's also not new, so it's not clear why this is on /. now. It's marketing more than anything.
  • by LarsG ( 31008 ) on Saturday June 28, 2008 @09:33PM (#23986607) Journal

    The specs on this thing is suspiciously similar to the good old WRT54GL. Unless the price is lower, I really don't see what this thing brings to the table.

    If it had just included a couple USB ports and upped the ram/flash a little bit, it would have improved the hackability considerably. Look at what people have been able to do with the NSLU2 [nslu2-linux.org]. With these fairly minor changes the WGR614L could supersede both the 54GL and NSLU2.

  • Re:no USB? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by LarsG ( 31008 ) on Saturday June 28, 2008 @09:42PM (#23986657) Journal

    What the hell do you need USB for?

    If it had 802.11n and a 4-port GigE switch I wouldn't complain, but the current hardware spec on this thing makes it just a clone of the good old wrt54gl. It is really nothing new or exciting at all, just a clone of a Linksys product.

    Now, with some USB ports you can do all sorts of additional stuff. External harddisks. Printers. Scanners. NAS for your home network. uPnP media server. Network printer/scanner server. Look up all the things people have been using NSLU2s for and then imagine a device that has the capabilities of both the 54GL and the NSLU2.

  • Re:no USB? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by _Sharp'r_ ( 649297 ) <sharperNO@SPAMbooksunderreview.com> on Saturday June 28, 2008 @09:45PM (#23986697) Homepage Journal

    What the hell do you need USB for?

    I don't personally, but some people use the USB port on their router to connect a PC to it, so they've been coming that way for years.

    I think a more useful feature on this model would be to use a USB port to connect an external USB storage enclosure and turn it into a NAS as a bonus. With a Linux OS, that'd be pretty easy to configure.

  • About time... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by hyc ( 241590 ) on Saturday June 28, 2008 @10:40PM (#23987029) Homepage Journal

    I think they're just acknowledging that they can't write firmware to save their lives. I had a WG602 that would always lock up after a few days of use; the lockups would happen sooner after big ftp/scp sessions. Basically the damn thing had a memory leak. Updating to the latest firmware didn't help; I finally replaced it with a Linksys.

    (Oh yeah, and they also promised upgradability to 802.1x WPA when I bought it, and never released a firmware update with WPA support.) AFA I'm concerned, this is the smartest decision they could possibly make. Now they don't have to bother with fake promises of future firmware upgrades, they can just leave it to their customers to upgrade at will. And people buying these routers won't have to put up with buggy firmware without any recourse.

    Of course I still think it's too late; I've completely sworn off ever buying Netgear again and have stuck to Linksys...

  • Re:no USB? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by evilviper ( 135110 ) on Sunday June 29, 2008 @01:12AM (#23987723) Journal

    I think a more useful feature on this model would be to use a USB port to connect an external USB storage enclosure and turn it into a NAS as a bonus. With a Linux OS, that'd be pretty easy to configure.


    Easy enough to configure, but sure to max-out the low-speed CPU in the router instantly.

    Packetizing data at full 100Mbps uses serious CPU time, which this box doesn't have. And if you want any kind of security for the data, like SFTP accesses, just forget the whole thing.

    If you want a SAN, grab an old computer. Don't try to force a router into a file server role.

  • by Fred_A ( 10934 ) <fred&fredshome,org> on Sunday June 29, 2008 @07:31AM (#23989219) Homepage

    The problem I have with my WRT54G hardware version 4 is the lack of storage space. It has 4MB of flash memory for the system files as well as for storing my photos and webpages.

    I can see how this can be a problem. Not to mention that it probably won't be enough to run Duke Nukem Forever when it comes out.

    Oh, wait, it's a router, not a NAS or a terminal server !

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