Dell Shows Off Its Eee PC Rival 250
Tom Moreland tips us to photos of Dell's answer to the Eee PC on the Direct2Dell site. Dell posted these after an attendee at the D conference spotted Michael Dell carrying one. The company hasn't released any details, so you can take these with a grain of salt — from a commenter to Dell's post: "Here are the specs for the Dell Mini Inspiron: Atom 1.6 GHz, 3 USB ports, Ethernet, Card reader, Kensington lock, Adapter socket, Mic/line-out, VGA port, screen resolution at 1280×800. Scheduled to be released before the end of June 2008. It costs less than $500."
first post! (Score:2, Insightful)
But which OS will it use? (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:first post! (Score:1, Insightful)
spec creep (Score:5, Insightful)
Instead I would like to see them stick at 300 euros and just gradually improve the spec.
Re:Pixel pitch is too small for me (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Pixel pitch is too small for me (Score:3, Insightful)
If increasing resolution on the monitor makes things less readable, you've got an operating system (or, at least, window manager/display subsystem/etc.) that really sucks (worse than Windows), or you aren't using it properly.
Re:Pixel pitch is too small for me (Score:5, Insightful)
Keyboard, good and bad (Score:5, Insightful)
Love that red shell (Score:3, Insightful)
Perfect. (Score:2, Insightful)
Yes, the Asus runs Linux, but it doesn't run her casual games. I still require Windows. It's not that bad anyway -- I'll set it up properly and lock her out of admin, and she can't screw it up that badly. And it's cute.
Re:Keyboard, good and bad (Score:2, Insightful)
Rebranded MSI Wind? (Score:5, Insightful)
Comment removed (Score:3, Insightful)
It's a new, different market (Score:5, Insightful)
The ASUS eeePC is currently selling like hotcakes, and the price range is currently in the neighborhood of 400-500$. Your argument has been around for quite a while ("I can get a full featured laptop for the same money"). The problem is this laptop isn't a regular laptop, but a new category of devices. Something you can carry easily, light, and robust. Dell isn't foolish, after the success of the eeePC, the HP mini-note and new devices coming from MSI, they want to make sure of their presence in that growing market.
So yes, you can get something bigger for similar money. But you get a all different device. Exactly like the MacBook Air (why spending so much for something slower than a regular Mackbook?) these are new devices, for people who value portability over added features.
In addition, if these devices run Linux natively (as they pretty much all do, in addition to WinXP), you get a modern fast OS, without you having to do anything to it, it simply work out of the box. In fact some people say that the Linux version are for those unexperienced, considering how easy they are to maintain.... Can you say the same about the crap-loaded $500 cheap "conventional" laptops?
Re:spec creep (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Pixel pitch is too small for me (Score:2, Insightful)
butterfly keyboards (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:first post! (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:Pixel pitch is too small for me (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Dell Defying M$ Again? (Score:1, Insightful)
Some of these specs, like the 1280x800 resolution screen look beyond the M$ limits for such devices [slashdot.org]. Good for Dell, they know what the market really looks like [slashdot.org].
And then "You can't sell XP after the start of June" and "Hey, up yours, Vista SP1 still won't sell, we'll just sell a "Vista license" with an XP CD and abuse a loophole in our contract allowing downgrades."
I think Dell gave Microsoft's demands for XP-on-ultraportables exactly the amount of consideration it deserved -- NONE.
Re:500 bucks? are they insane? (Score:1, Insightful)
Second, I am completely sick of the notion that good design is worth more than 33% of the price of a product. I see it with the late-model cars, and dozens of other types of products. A manufacturer brings out a lineup of models and the only difference between the low-end and the medium-priced models is that one of them looks nicer. They might learn from the apparel industry where good design is expected at any price and it goes up according to the quality (and cost) of the materials used, not the fact that a little thought has gone into the design.
Of all the input costs of a product, good design seems to be one of the ones that is the least expensive for a manufacturer.
Re:Pixel pitch is too small for me (Score:2, Insightful)
I'd like to ask a few questions about your point (Score:5, Insightful)
Yes you can. So my question to you then is, why are people snatching up these mini-notebooks left and right, with companies seemingly finding an urgent need to enter the niche?
Is it possible that you're missing something? Or do you ascribe the success of these devices to marketing and gullibility? I ask because I've seen your argument before, and responded to it before, but the responses never seem to register.
So what is your answer? Why are people going against what you think to be the intelligent choice? I ask again, is it possible that you missed something and that 500 dollar laptop you're touting doesn't measure up for some reason? I bet if you examine the two devices, you'll see the major difference that makes these devices desirable.
Hint: it's not processor speed, or hard drive size, or screen resolution. Those things matter little to the people considering an EEEPC or one of its competitors.
Re:Dell EEE PC (Score:3, Insightful)
Most of the people making new EEE PC clones seem to believe that Asus' success has come from the fact that the EEE PC was small and not that it was inexpensive. Heck, even Asus' new version seems to make that assumption.
It will be interesting to see how the next generation sells.
Re:How to advocate free software (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Great companies don't worry about cannibalizati (Score:3, Insightful)
Another example:
When HP was great at making inkjet and laser printers, the motto was, "Let's put ourselves out of business every 6 months because if we don't do it, someone else will."
The best printers in the history of the world came out of that process and HP made megabucks. Then David Packard died and a faceless corporate board took over...
Re:first post! (Score:3, Insightful)
At the $500 pricepoint, you are talking normal PC laptops.
EEE is already at $350. Why bother with the Dell?