Samsung 256GB SSD is World's Fastest 190
i4u submitted one of many holiday weekend slow news day stories which starts "Samsung Electronics announced today the world's fastest, 2.5", 256GB multi-level cell (MLC) based solid state drive (SSD) using a SATA II interface.
Performance data of the new Samsung 256GB SSD features a sequential read speed of 200 megabytes per second (MB/s) and sequential write speed of 160MB/s.
The Samsung MLC-based 2.5-inch 256GB SSD is about 2.4 times faster than a typical HDD. Furthermore, the new 256 GB SSD is only 9.5 millimeters (mm) thick, and measures 100.3x69.85 mm. Samsung is expected to begin mass producing the 2.5-inch, 256GB SSD by year end, with customer samples available in September. A 256GB capacity is getting large enough to replace hard-drives for good — now just the prices just need to come down further for large capacity SSDs."
Seems like the complexity is lower (Score:5, Interesting)
This is good news... (Score:3, Interesting)
The Power of 1000 Hard Drives (Score:5, Interesting)
http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/34065/135/ [tgdaily.com]
At $30 per gigabyte, it would be great to have a 10-gig for OS and your current favorite MMO game.
Primary SSD + Storage HDD = Gold (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:MLC, not SLC. (Score:2, Interesting)
I have first hand experience with this so I laugh when people say flash drives will last longer than their mechanical counterparts. The rewrite cycle count needs to be way, way higher than it currently is. Wear leveling can only do so much and it just gets worse as the drive gets full.
Re:Random write ops? (Score:5, Interesting)
New techniques try to avoid this by basically turning random writes into sequential ones; once you've erased a 4+MB block, you put all new writes into that block (you can turn a 0 into a 1 without an expensive erase cycle) and remap it similarly to how it's done with wear leveling. I'm not aware of anyone actually doing this yet, though.
DBAs: Index tablespaces? Logfiles? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Time to redesign the personal computer? (Score:3, Interesting)
A most interesting and pertinent question! I think that if such a memory reached the speed of RAM with the capacity of a HDD then we could merge the two concepts into a central memory that would be used for anything. The first real gain with that type of design is that instead of loading (uncompressed) files (from the HDD to the RAM) you could simply point to them, and directly access them. Virtual machines could benefit greatly from that by pausing and resuming their execution instantly, for all their virtualised RAM would be written in a file that would simply pointed to. The same could happen for regular programs. They could have all their memory space in a file (the OS would take care of it), and if the program was to be prematurely killed you could resume its execution state.
Likewise, it would remove the concept for RAM space, as well as for virtual memory, that is, the OS wouldn't use a single file to put everything in, but rather as many files as it needs for each program (for example). With such a concept the execution for everything I mentioned (programs, OS, virtual machines) could be paused and resumed instantly.
As for the actual booting of the machine, I'm sure a clever use of it by say copying read-only pieces of memory that are hardware/configuration-independent to another space in memory where they could be modified (or not, maybe you could have a partially read-only OS) would greatly speed up things.
Somehow I can see that happening in embedded devices, not so soon with desktop machines, but we'd have yet to wait for SSD memory to be fast enough.
Re:Random read ops? (Score:2, Interesting)
Doing so seems to diminish some of the the possible overall system performance improvements - if I have a SSD I want to use the main memory for either HD io caching or programs. Caching disk blocks from the fast SSD in main memory seems suboptimal.
Re:Is there a good reason why.... (Score:3, Interesting)
You can accomplish the same thing, with fewer flaws, by just having two drives.
I like SSD but.... (Score:2, Interesting)
My main fear with SSD's is the wearing out of blocks and bits. Typical data sets I work with are about 2 gigabytes. I run scripts against the data to look at various patterns and generate forecasting data. I could read and write that data six or eight hundred times in a day's testing. Well over a terabyte a day. How soon before an SSD craps out on me at that pace?
I would love to have an SSD for the blazing fast access times, but I don't want to have to replace it every six months. I'd pay extra for it, probably 2 to 3 times the traditional hard disk amount. But it has to last a few years at least. The other option of going 64 bit, adding huge amounts of DRAM, and running a RAM disk isn't financially sound at the moment.
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BAARF (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Random write ops? (Score:1, Interesting)
Re:Seems like the complexity is lower (Score:3, Interesting)
Given sufficient amount of time, solid state SSD will likely overtake hard drives. But I think many industry analysts are far too quick to estimate wide adoption if the SSD media over hard drives. It will be slow. And I have heard those predictions 10 years ago.
Problems exist in SSD adoption, 3 huge ones.
Oh, the SSD will creep in, but I don't expect it to wipe out hard drives any time soon. I will say when the 640GB SSD is under $250 it's adoption will soar for laptops. By that time, the 1TB mechanical hard drives will be under $100 and 2 or perhaps 3TB drives may exist as well. But we are optimistically 4-5 years from this point. For the data center, even longer. The write and cost issues must be totally resolved for that, as some drives in busy systems go nuts on writes and can't afford a hit. If I want to buy 10PB of storage, and SSD is twice the price, it will loose.
What you might see in widespread adoption first is say affordable 64GB versions of SSD for the OS, and a adjunct 1TB hard drive for raw storage.
It's a game of numbers. (Score:3, Interesting)
As a geek I'm always being asked if such-and-such a laptop is "fast enough", if XX is enough disk space, etc.
People have no idea what the numbers mean, or how they compare to the numbers six months ago. They don't even know the difference between RAM and hard disk. All they know is they don't want low numbers.
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