Comparing the OLPC, Classmate and Eee 188
ZDOne writes "Small and inexpensive notebooks have been a hot topic in recent months as the Classmate, XO laptop, and the Asus Eee go head-to-head with each other for the low end/educational market. ZDNet has a look at all three systems, comparing the three platforms on multiple points of data to determine which of the three fits your needs. 'In terms of overall stylishness the Eee is the winner, but the XO and the Classmate are both more rounded and rugged, and come with carrying handles. The OLPC XO has the biggest screen, an innovative 7.5in. dual-mode transmissive/reflective LCD that can swivel from traditional clamshell mode to 'e-book' mode with the screen facing outwards, tablet-style (although it's not a touch-screen). The Classmate and Eee both have similar, rather cramped, 7in. TFT displays. '"
Can one develop software on the XO? (Score:5, Insightful)
Lately I've been entertaining the idea of moving to somewhere in the developing world where all the kids have XOs, and teaching them to code.
I've seen two maps of the Earth that led to this idea. One was a photo of the entire Earth taken at night, made from many satellite photos mosaiced together. The other is a live display that they have in a lobby at Google, that shows a real-time display of queries submitted to their search engine, in the form of bright spikes whose height is proportional to the rate of query submissions.
In both of these, most of the world was lit up - except for Africa. South Africa had some light, but most of Africa was dark.
Maybe if we taught African kids to write software, they could start businesses that would make their lives better.
comming up next on slashdot.. (Score:2, Insightful)
OLPC - kids education
Classmate - older kids education
Eee - web browsing and IM
Re:Bias? (Score:3, Insightful)
They need to earn foreign exchange... (Score:5, Insightful)
I applaud the efforts of government and charity to improve living conditions by donating money, but it won't be sustainable until those in need can earn the money through the sweat of their own brows.
Look at what it's doing for India, that they built the Indian Institutes of Technology, whose graduates are now doing software development for worldwide customers.
And yes, I realize this isn't patriotic.
Re:Can one develop software on the XO? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Bias? (Score:5, Insightful)
Economically it's a 4-5 year old laptop (Score:4, Insightful)
And for what it's worth, GAMERZ D00DZ at
Re:Can one develop software on the XO? (Score:2, Insightful)
how can people like you continue to pop up after we beat the shit out of you every time?
here's a hint... the OLPC is not for the dying children with flies on their faces ok
get a fucking clue asshole, you're subverting everyone's efforts to make the world better
Re:Posting from my EEE PC... (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:Can one develop software on the XO? (Score:3, Insightful)
Fixed.
Why not teach the students who already have some infrastructure, how to develop more. It would perhaps be possible to have some sort of low-cost, sturdy computing device, introduced into the educational system, to assist in this effort.
Funny you mention Python. (Score:5, Insightful)
Almost all apps in Sugar are written in Python and their code is readily available and freely editable from inside Sugar. They are safely sandboxed so you won't break anything permanently, but you're encouraged to modify existing ones and write new ones - using the libraries in the system.
The laptop is meant to reveal its layers to the kid as the kid's experience grows. First - games and activities accessible by big, friendly buttons. Then, two of the activities are different programming toys - procedural, building program from bricks, and event-driven one. You gain basics of programming. Then you press a specific button and you get the source of the underlying app. At first you learn by modifying it, editing it - change colors, change texts, maybe move things around a bit. The python code is clean and well commented. Then you can try your own "hello world" and write your own python software that will run under Sugar. As you become expert at Python, you'll learn to use the mysterious "terminal" thing and write without GUI, download other libraries and languages. Nothing is unavailable, but to make sense of some parts you need experience in the easier ones. A 6yo who just begins to learn reading won't find Python sources very interesting, and won't mess with them at least until the brick-language becomes too limiting.
I, for one, *LIKE* the Sugar UI (Score:5, Insightful)
I have watched several children play around with my XO, and not once has any of them ever asked me how to start or stop an activity using the Sugar UI. Truly, it is a brilliantly simple interface.
Frankly, the Journal is one of the very best parts of the whole thing. The XO remembers everything you do, automatically. You don't have to hit "save" when you've finished writing something, or deal with "files" and "folders" -- kids have no concept of such abstractions. You just use the durn thing, and it records everything for you, silently and efficiently. When you want to go back to what you were doing, you go to your Journal, and bingo, there it is. One click, and you're back in the saddle.
The key point here is to remember that Sugar is for kids. If you want an adult interface, you can install XFCE or your adult-sized distro of choice. Since it's just a standard Linux box, it's really easy to explore.
Re:eee (Score:-1, Insightful)
Which is, some might say, the whole frigging point.
Honestly, I'd have bought my eee even if it cost twice or three times as much because I live in London, rely on public transport and carrying a full-size (or even "small", like my old 12" iBook) laptop about with you is just not practical. I can throw my eee into my small bag and barely know it's there. It's no surprise that the thing is selling so well here that every shop has a waiting list.