How to Convert Your HD-DVD Discs to Blu-Ray 275
eldavojohn writes "Are you one of the few who boarded the HD-DVD Titanic ship headed to the bottom of ocean to join BetaMax? Fret no longer, friend, simply convert those and pretend like you never invested in the wrong technology! All you need is a Windows machine with a fast processor, an HD-DVD drive, a Blu-Ray burner, 30GB of free disk space, at least, though 40GB or more is recommended and an internet connection to download the software! Or you can sit and be the crazy guy who continues to argue that HD-DVD is the superior technology whether it's true or not."
Oh is that all (Score:4, Insightful)
I dont have price quotes and I'm too lazy to look them up but I'm pretty sure that Blu-Ray burners run about $500. I have no idea how much an HD-DVD ROM drive would go for, probably pretty reasonable now that its a defunct format.
So unless you bought a copy of every HD-DVD that is out I dont think this is cost effective.
Steep Price Indeed! (Score:5, Insightful)
Riiiiiiight (Score:2, Insightful)
Hmmmm.... tough decision.
Money (Score:4, Insightful)
I'm sorry, but HD-DVD users are just plain outta luck. Next time, join the rest of us and just wait.
Or (Score:4, Insightful)
Kind of worthless? (Score:2, Insightful)
Now, I'm no studio exec, but the chances that a studio will re-release in Blu-Ray or put out old Blu-Ray versions (movies such as Shooter that were pulled from Blu-Ray once Paramount went HD-DVD exclusive) is fairly decent. This sounds like a huge time and money sink to me and for my HD-DVD movies? I'd rather just wait until they come out on Blu-Ray to buy them again.
That sounds Expensive (Score:4, Insightful)
Just because you bought Blu-Ray... (Score:2, Insightful)
It'll take time, but this is the Achilles heel of Blu-Ray, and will eventually continue the legacy of Sony developed media standards taking off like a lead balloon.
What's the point? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Oh is that all (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Riiiiiiight (Score:3, Insightful)
Or spend nothing and leave your HD-DVD drive plugged into your home theater, bitching occasionally about the extra remote. Or, have an HD-DVD drive that also is a regular DVD drive (or is plugged into your 360) and don't even have the extra remote. Seriously, why would I someone arbitarily deciding HD-DVD was bad impact me. Now that HD-DVD is "dead", I'm thinking about getting a player and some movies, if they are cheap enough.
Re:Money (Score:5, Insightful)
If I have an HD-DVD drive. . . (Score:5, Insightful)
But for most users, why bother converting? Just keep watching it on your current player.
Re:Why Convert? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Kind of worthless? (Score:4, Insightful)
I abjectly refuse to buy any media more than once, its the game they have played since there was more than 1 media choice out there, and that cash cow has got to stop.
Re:Money (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:What's the point? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Money (Score:5, Insightful)
Yes, I would much rather have Congress dealing with peoples HD-DVD issues than the economic toilet our country is in, the war, oil, or about a 1000 other more important issues.
HD-DVD users are not screwed in the slightest, they knew what they were getting into, and even so, getting a new disc format isn't going to jack squat for them. They can watch their HD-DVD discs on their HD-DVD player for the rest of thier lives just fine, how is getting a Bluray disc of the same movie going to help them when they don't even have a Bluray player?
It's not about what's right, it's about $$$ (Score:3, Insightful)
We're talking about the MAFIAA and you expect what's right? (I'm chuckling even while I write this.) I hate to be the one to break the bad news to you, Grasshopper, but you have discovered the ugly core of the media industry. It has nothing to do with what is right. It's not about Art. It is all about squeezing as much money as possible out you as possible. And if you think your congresscritter is going to do otherwise, then I applaud your pure heart, but feel compelled to tell you that unless you have more money than Hollywood with which to bribe^h^h^h^h^hlobby, you (we?) don't have a chance.
Re:Steep Price Indeed! (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Money (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Money (Score:4, Insightful)
Why bother? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:I don't understand why you would even need to (Score:1, Insightful)
Cheaper (Score:4, Insightful)
I think it would be cheaper to just re-buy all your discs in BluRay, especially considering the cost of BR recordable discs.
Or if there is no BR equivalent, get a fire-sale HD-DVD player just for those obsolete discs.
One poorly phrased comment... (Score:3, Insightful)
Note that I am not arguing that it is superior, I neither know nor care since I have no interest in the technology itself and no media in either format, simply suggesting a significant improvement to the way the comment is phrased.
Re:Get a pen (Score:4, Insightful)
My pioneer LASER disc player still works. (Score:2, Insightful)
Are we to understand that the HD DVD player is in danger of crapping out if we don't hurry up and convert?
Wouldn't it make more sense to buy all the movies you like that are available in the obsoleted format along with a player because now you can get them cheap?
Re:Money (Score:3, Insightful)
Your horse lost, now you want your money back? That seems a bit silly.
The only thing Congress should do is laugh at you.
I got caught picking the loosing side too, but all my HD DVD's are safely ripped to my server where they'll live for some time to come.
Re:Money (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Kind of worthless? (Score:3, Insightful)
These discs are fundamentally different formats. DRM isn't what makes this not cost effective. DRM isn't the reason why your HD-DVDs don't work in a Blu-ray player.
Every time in the history of recordings that there has been a new format, it has been set up so you'll buy it again. After a few years when it becomes cheap, people can start moving over their collections from the old format. There's nothing special about that. Tape decks captured LP recordings in the 70s; CD recorders moved tapes to discs by the late 90's. DV connections moved VHS to DVD in the early 00s, DVDs can be moved to BD if you are enterprising. This has been par for the course throughout the entire past century. They don't break the old format; there's nothing forcing you to upgrade or to pay again. Consumers pay again because it offers them something they want at a price they're willing to pay. There's nothing nefarious about that--if Bob wants to buy the DVD instead of spending two hours converting his VHS, why shouldn't a retailer make a sale? The fact that vendors know they'll continue making residual sales is one of the major factors that cause prices to drop after release. It's all part of a larger system.
The fact that it's more expensive to do so than just to repurchase isn't something that's new. Even if your HD-DVD collection didn't have DRM at all, it would still be impractical and expensive to convert it to BD.
Re:Steep Price Indeed! (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:One poorly phrased comment... (Score:2, Insightful)
The Blu-Ray Disc Authority (BDA) would have you believe that it was due to "consumer choice", which is dubious at best. Had all studios been format neutral from the get-go, and *all* studios released on both formats from the beginning, the outcome may very well have been different. However, the BDA were able to secure Fox, Disney, and (surprise surprise) Sony's studios from the get-go. Three *very* large studios with an impressive catalog.
It's likely that Fox and Disney received "incentives" either in the form of cash payoffs or other "financial or promotional considerations" for Blu-Ray exclusivity. In fact, at the BDA press conference at the IFA in Berlin in August of last year, when asked point-blank whether they had received financial incentives for their exclusive support of Blu-Ray, Disney's VP of European Marketing responded with "no comment".
There's still a lot of speculation as to why Warner had chosen to go Blu-Ray exclusive. Perhaps out of the goodness of their hearts they knew that they held the winning hand in deciding the outcome of the war, and decided to just go with Blu-Ray and put an end to the "war" for the consumer's sake. However, this is big business, and if Paramount and Disney were receiving payouts for their support of their exclusivity, why wouldn't they try to secure a nice incentive package? I say the jury's still out on this one, and it may be some time before we know what actually went down in Warner's meetings with the BDA/Sony two weeks prior to CES 2008... if ever.
But don't kid yourselves, the war was not decided on market forces brought on by consumer demand.
Re:Just because you bought Blu-Ray... (Score:3, Insightful)
That is just bullsh*t. The motherboard with ISA slots is completely useless, the older Blu-Ray players will still play the new Blu-ray discs, they just won't do the extras.
Yes, losing out on the extras is annoying and crap, but playing the f*cking film is the most important thing, and they will still do that.