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CDN Forces Reactor Online Against Safety Regulations 338

Socguy writes "The Canadian government has passed legislation that will reopen an Ontario nuclear reactor that produces most of the world's supply of critical medical isotopes, even though the site has been shut down for safety maintenance. Witnesses and experts were called in to the House to face questions about safety concerns and all parties eventually voiced support for the bill, which would effectively suspend CNSC's oversight role for 120 days. The Chalk River reactor ceased operating on Nov. 18. Pressure on the government to restart operations began to build after delays in the shutdown of the government-run site, which generates two-thirds of the world's radioisotopes, began to cause a critical shortage of radioisotopes."
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CDN Forces Reactor Online Against Safety Regulations

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  • Re:Politics... meh (Score:5, Interesting)

    by rubycodez ( 864176 ) on Thursday December 13, 2007 @01:38AM (#21680453)
    why not truck backup pair of generators on-site for those pumps (hell, those can't be anything like the generators for coolant systems of 2.5GW PWRs I've been at, gotta be tiny), get any needed priority ISI & FAC inspections done and leave all the chicken shit for another outage?
  • Re:Politics... meh (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Secret Rabbit ( 914973 ) on Thursday December 13, 2007 @01:56AM (#21680555) Journal
    I think you meant to say Conservative party. Because the Liberals (NOT the NDP NOR the Bloc) criticised this decision by asking if Harper would take responsibility if something went wrong. Here's a quote that was in the article that you have obviously not read:

    "Will the minister [of natural resources] or the prime minister, for that matter, tell Canadians what will happen if there's a nuclear accident?" Alghabra asked to raucous applause.

    Harpers answer was:

    "There will be no nuclear accident," Harper answered in the Commons. "What there will be ... is a growing crisis in the medical system here in Canada and around the world if the Liberal party continues to support the regulator obstructing this reactor from coming back on line."

    Here's another quote from the people that you think did this:

    "Attacking the regulator, taking [it] out of the process, is going to make the problem worse," deputy Liberal leader Michael Ignatieff said Tuesday

    Gotta say, that's about the level of logic and justification that I'm used to seeing from Harper. Sad isn't it.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 13, 2007 @02:35AM (#21680737)
    About 16 yrs ago I was a younger physicist looking for work. I found a job conducting/directing neutron activations at a reactor making medical materials, testing samples at a major facility. Measured 92 of the elements, even down to ppb. (Needed x-ray facilities for more, across town...) We generated the second-highest amount of low-level waste in my state. My job was to bag-and-tag all the isotopic waste, too.
    My boss tried to get me to dump it all into the dumpster, so he could pocket the ~$75000US instead. One day, walking through the adjacent building, a safety guy from the NRC cornered me and asked who's side I'd be on when called to testify: "Put me on the top of the list"! I said. Meaning, in no unslashdotted terms, I'd serve up the sob. Funny but I had to stand in for him to teach the nu-cu-lar safety class he was supposed to have instructed.
  • "world supply" (Score:4, Interesting)

    by locust ( 6639 ) on Thursday December 13, 2007 @03:25AM (#21680961)
    According to yesterday's interview on CBC's As It Happens, its not the world's supply, but rather the North American supply. In the past when the reactor has been down, the company that supplies the isotopes (Atomic Energy Canada Ltd runs the place, but another company produces the isotopes) buys isotopes from reactors in australia, south africa or Europe (holand I think). Its just this time they decide to make it a big issue. (so they don't have to pay for the isotopes). The interview in question is, I think, in part two of the broadcast... see: http://www.cbc.ca/radioshows/AS_IT_HAPPENS/20071212.shtml [www.cbc.ca] The segment is: "ISOTOPES: KUPERMAN"
  • by compro01 ( 777531 ) on Thursday December 13, 2007 @03:26AM (#21680963)
    we do (the Petten reactor in the Netherlands and the OPAL in Australia), but these things are relatively expensive to build and run, as they don't produce power. beyond isotopes and some heavy water, these things are for nuclear physics experiments, so these things have very low return on investment and thus most aren't real interested in building/running them.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 13, 2007 @03:46AM (#21681041)
    The reactor was set to be shut down for good deal more than a week.
  • by p0tat03 ( 985078 ) on Thursday December 13, 2007 @04:10AM (#21681131)

    Ah, but then you have the problem of purity. The byproduct of the radioactive decay is no doubt a heavy metal - i.e. you really would want to minimize the amount going into the patient's bloodstream. So, for the sake of the test, you would desire a substance that is fairly pure - i.e. you can minimize the dose but maximize the activity level to gain a better reading.

    So yes, while it's possible (but not feasible) to create a large stockpile, you will still need purification facilities to constantly re-process the decayed material out of your stockpile, which is really quite pointless.

  • Re:Bah! (Score:4, Interesting)

    by foreverdisillusioned ( 763799 ) on Thursday December 13, 2007 @04:41AM (#21681243) Journal
    And when was the last time you heard the big, scandalous story about the radiative particles that coal burning plants dump into the air supply? Oh, right, there never was one, because people don't care about radiation unless it's coming from a nuclear power plant. Nevermind that coal burning plants release much more radiation than nuclear plants. Nevermind that the total yearly release is greater than that of Three Mile Island.

    If you want me to care about a specific instance of mis-management, I'm going to have to see some numbers first. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the total radioactive "contamination" was still less than that of a typical coal burning plant (granted, drinking water contamination vs. air contamination is different.)
  • Re:Bah! (Score:3, Interesting)

    by foreverdisillusioned ( 763799 ) on Thursday December 13, 2007 @05:23AM (#21681433) Journal
    Yes, good point. We're all surrounded by small amounts of electromagnetic radiation, therefore *any* amount of *any* radiation is just fine!

    Except I didn't say that. In fact, I quite explicitly said the opposite. Also, FYI, beta radiation isn't electromagnetic, and the amount of radiation required to give you a sunburn isn't "small", nor is the amount of radiation dumped into the air by coal burning plants "small" (in fact, it's much greater than the amount of radiation nuclear plants dump into surround environment.)

    The point isn't "radiation is safe". The point is, we're already saturated by it, plus more than a few nastier and deadlier things. A given source of radiation, therefore, should be evaluated objectively instead of saying "OMFG it's radioactive, get it away from me!" A small, modern isotope generating reactor probably has as much in common with the Chernobyl disaster as a butane lighter does with the firebombing of Dresden.
  • Re:Bah! (Score:3, Interesting)

    by wish bot ( 265150 ) on Thursday December 13, 2007 @07:58AM (#21682063)
    Not that I disagree with you in principle, but the missing ingredient in your discussion is "concentration", which kind of changes everything.
  • by budgenator ( 254554 ) on Thursday December 13, 2007 @08:45AM (#21682247) Journal
    The dosage changes constantly anyways so each draw is calculated, and double checked by measurement with a detector.
  • Re:Got to love it... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Firethorn ( 177587 ) on Thursday December 13, 2007 @10:02AM (#21682785) Homepage Journal
    the movie is actually used as one by certain companies...

    Youtube is blocked at work here, but yep, I've had it shown as a safety video.

    Of course, we also distributed pictures of the hand of an electrician who had his finger blown off when he was working with flourescent ballasts and some wires hit his wedding ring...

    As well as some rather nasty pictures of DUI accidents...
  • Re:Bah! (Score:2, Interesting)

    by jahudabudy ( 714731 ) on Thursday December 13, 2007 @01:11PM (#21685405)
    Who are these anti-nuclear hippies, anyway? I've never met one.

    I have. I went to a fairly liberal college in the 90s. Think PCU, to a degree. There was some talk at the time about building a waste disposal facility for low-level waste in the area. Basically, there are a large number of research hospitals and one nukee lab in the area, so a lot of low-level waste was being generated there. Well, the keyword "nuclear" sent the protesters into a frenzy. I remember being asked to sign a petition against this facility, and having a "bang your head against wall" conversation with the (admittedly hot) chick about what she suggested be done with the waste if she didn't want a disposal facility being built.

    "We need to cut back on nuclear waste b/c it is so dangerous!"
    "Uhm, so we need to stop providing modern medical services?"
    "No, we just need to produce less nuclear waste!" Rinse, lather, repeat.

    I don't think she ever really understood what it was she was protesting against, other than "teh evil nuculars".

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