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Low-Cost Board Runs Linux, Google Apps 152

An anonymous reader writes to mention that hardware hacking enthusiasts can now get their hands on the guts of the Everex TC2502 Linux PC for just $60 (USD). The compact x86-compatible "gOS Dev Board" offers a lightweight Linux-based OS designed for use with Google Apps. " Along with a Firefox browser supporting the Google toolbar, gOS includes local productivity applications, such as OpenOffice.org. However, its main goal is "coherently packaging Google Apps to give users the idea that they can use Google as their main environment," explained Paul Kim, of Everex. "
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  • by stoolpigeon ( 454276 ) * <bittercode@gmail> on Wednesday November 07, 2007 @06:51PM (#21273983) Homepage Journal
    Throw that bad boy in a nice case [amazon.com] with some ram [amazon.com] and a decent hard drive [amazon.com], and it's not a bad deal. You could probably put together a machine with maxed out ram, decent storage and a much more attractive case for the same amount if not less than you'd pay for the Walmart version [walmart.com]. And while the processor isn't a powerhouse, I'm sure any distro could do allright on there. Gentoo might not be the best choice, but otherwise... (Just kidding there. While the gentoo crowds seem to have calmed - it really was a joke.)
  • Re:I don't get it (Score:3, Informative)

    by vondo ( 303621 ) on Wednesday November 07, 2007 @07:03PM (#21274131)
    Well, for one, the nice thing about these Via CPUs is that they don't use much power. You can easily put together a whole computer that uses 50W. I wouldn't use it as a desktop, but I use something similar as a home server.

    BTW, the Walmart price does not include a monitor.
  • "dev board" ? (Score:5, Informative)

    by MrTrick ( 673182 ) on Wednesday November 07, 2007 @07:03PM (#21274133) Homepage
    This is just a motherboard, with a C7 processor already attached to it. No memory, no non-volatile storage...

    According to TFA, it "comes with gOS", but gOS doesn't sit anywhere on this 'dev board', it has to be installed onto a regular hard drive just like a normal computer.

    Bad article. It's not a dev board, it's an entirely normal mobo. The ONLY thing about it that is even remotely special is that there are linux drivers for all its components.

    If it were a dev board I'd want at least some attached flash storage, and some interesting pin headers.
  • by houstonbofh ( 602064 ) on Wednesday November 07, 2007 @07:09PM (#21274225)
    The form factor is to big to fit in the really small cases (mini-atx) and too small to expand in a big case. Besides, motherboard CPU combos at about this price with more performance are not uncommon. http://www.directron.com/nf61sm7comb58.html [directron.com] Nothing really special about this but the Google tag.
  • by theGreater ( 596196 ) on Wednesday November 07, 2007 @07:20PM (#21274361) Homepage

    For additional extra credit, google for the following:

    Walmart/Everex GPC TC2502 (VIA CN700 + VT8237R Chipset), PC2500E

    Or just check the LinuxBIOS Mailing List [linuxbios.org] thread about this very board, which is available from ClubIT.com [clubit.com] for about $60.00 with free shipping.

    -theGreater.
  • by TopSpin ( 753 ) * on Wednesday November 07, 2007 @07:23PM (#21274399) Journal
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135057 [newegg.com]

    $9 more, NVidia graphics processor, Athlon 3200+, same 0-MB of RAM...

    You'll need a heat sink. Avoid installing >1 DIMM. Does that qualify as 'close'?

  • by FrankSchwab ( 675585 ) on Wednesday November 07, 2007 @07:25PM (#21274419) Journal
    Try: http://shop3.outpost.com/product/5325528 [outpost.com]
    Intel uAtx board, Celeron 215 soldered on, takes DDR-II 533 or 400, onboard graphics, one PCI port, $70.
  • by Junta ( 36770 ) on Wednesday November 07, 2007 @08:00PM (#21274891)
    So key things when building a beowulf cluster are performance per dollar and performance per watt. Hit sweet spots in those and you can adjust the rest through node count.

    In this case, buying 4 of these boards would probably suck down more power than a single quad-core Intel planar+processor. The cost of 4 boards (plus memory, etc) would probably be not much cheaper than consolidating all of that into one chassis. So if expecting a significant lifetime out of it, it's not really worth it. You can put together similar budget systems for maybe 30% more money, but with probably 50-70% more performance and better performance per watt.

    Now, if it offered say, 15% less performance per planar, but 25% less power consumption at 30% lower price, then yes, it may make sense to buy it and increase node count to offset the difference. But my understanding is that the difference in performance is quite drastic, more drastic than the cost savings or power consumption figures. I heard the VIA platform takes two clock cycles to execute a single-precision floating-point operation. For comparison, current Intel archictecture acheives 4 double-precision flops for every clock cycle (theoretical max). This is of key interest if wanting to compare your setup against the Top500.

    Now if your intent is simply to learn the in and outs of clustering, with no practical work expected, and you lack old hardware to hobble together, it may be educational. However, it's likely that any old hardware lying around would be on the order of the same amount of educational value.

    The target market is obviously areas where they won't need more than one, in which case scaling back power and cost at the expense of performance is a no-brainer. Other interesting places for VIA products ('just-enough' processing at a low TDP) are embedded. I've been wanting to piece together a Car-PC, but haven't overcome my laziness. A car-pc is an excellent target for VIA based products.
  • the complete machine (Score:3, Informative)

    by bcrowell ( 177657 ) on Wednesday November 07, 2007 @08:11PM (#21275045) Homepage
    I kept checking the local walmarts for availability via the online inventory interface, and they were always out of stock. Checked SF, Chicago, NY, ... same deal. I wonder if there's been unexpectedly strong demand. The customer reviews on the walmart site look very positive. I finally ordered one via walmart's service where you can get it shipped to the store for free, and they'll you email when it arrives. This is for my young daughter to play flash games on, read wikipedia articles, etc. Not sure if I'll want to keep gOS or just install standard ubuntu. I guess I'll try installing gnome and seeing whether the performance is acceptable. The monitor and keyboard will probably end up costing more than the machine itself. I love the low power consumption, so I don't have to nag her to turn it off.
  • Directron FTW (Score:3, Informative)

    by argent ( 18001 ) <peter@slashdot . ... t a r o nga.com> on Wednesday November 07, 2007 @09:17PM (#21275775) Homepage Journal
    How about this then?

    http://www.directron.com/nf61sm7comb58.html [directron.com]

    Biostar NF61S Micro 754 Motherboard and AMD Athlon 3100+ CPU with Cooler, $72.99

    1 ATA + 2 SATA, plus nVidia GPU.
  • by DragonWriter ( 970822 ) on Wednesday November 07, 2007 @10:21PM (#21276417)

    The form factor is to big to fit in the really small cases (mini-atx) and too small to expand in a big case.


    The really small cases are, for instance, mini-ITX. Mini-ATX is almost exactly the same size (area) as Micro-ATX, but a different arrangement (8.2x11.2cm instead of 9.6x9.6cm), so its true that this Micro-ATX MB won't fit in a Mini-ATX case, and is too big in one dimension. But, just the same, a Mini-ATX MB wouldn't fit a Micro-ATX case, for exactly the same reason. Micro-ATX cases are IMO reasonably small, and (but maybe I just look at the wrong places) it seems that there is a greater variety of Micro-ATX cases available.
  • by Almahtar ( 991773 ) on Thursday November 08, 2007 @02:59AM (#21278373) Journal
    WHAT? You have no idea what you're talking about. I use both KDE and Gnome a lot, and when I feel like it I switch to E17 for variety. On my 512 MB/Ram notebook KDE and Gnome tend to use around 160-220 MB all started up these numbers include the kernel and everything. E17 uses about 45. Once again this includes the kernel.

    Getting from Login to fully functional desktop in E17 takes about 1.5 seconds.

    I love KDE and Gnome and the functionality they have, but nobody can tell me E17 doesn't whip the pants off of them for performance.

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