3.0GHz Phenom and 3-Way CrossFire Spotted 103
MojoKid writes "AMD revealed the clock speed of the Agena-based processor they showed to the press today yesterday in conference, and clocks in at 3.0GHz. There has been a lot of speculation that AMD wasn't able to push early Phenom samples to frequencies this high, but here is proof that at least some Phenoms clocked at 3.0GHz do exist. You may also notice that the system hit a Windows Experience index score of 5.9, which is the highest score possible. It should be noted that AMD talked about 4-way CrossFire as well (a 3-way CrossFire is shown online), and that the company has continued plans to produce discreet GPUs at all performance levels (mainstream — enthusiast), even after Fusion arrives."
climbing back or post mortem movement? (Score:5, Interesting)
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Sorry, I don't know why I'm being such a bastard today, maybe someone in the office has PMS..
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Ok, pretty basic comment, moderators are apparently inept and highly suggestable.
Ok. . .now I'm suspecting that the great grandparent has multiple accounts. . .In any case, in true tradition with recursive modding, mod parent
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Re:climbing back or post mortem movement? (Score:5, Informative)
The linked website seems aptly titled -- "HotHardware". Did you see the four extra fans built into the side of the case in the photo in the article?
The mind boggles at how much heat that setup must be producing.
I hope AMD can produce product at 3GHz (and faster) in quantity. And I hope they can do so without requiring 4 large fans taking up the entire side of the case.
Of course, those fans could be just to cool the three AMD graphics cards.
While I'm sure case modders and extreme performance enthusiasts don't care about this point, the rest of us like lower power consumption and quieter computers, while still being very fast.
Holmwood
Re:climbing back or post mortem movement? (Score:5, Insightful)
Meh. No amount of performance is worth that. Not to me, anyway.
This is a normal case... (Score:2, Interesting)
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I've been looking for such systems for a while now, and I finally got something that is getting close to it. It's a fanless VIA EPIA system at 1.2 GHz. It's running from an ultra-quiet notebook WD drive using a laptop like PSU. I'm posting from it now (Ubuntu/Firefox). Of course, the thing lacking from it is CPU, GPU an
5.9, which is the highest windows score possible (Score:5, Funny)
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Now I realize that even $500 on cpu + graphics alone is more than most people spend, but the point is 5.9 'vista's highest possible score' *is* trivially achievable in a $1500 budget using parts from the upper-end of 'mainstream'. It might even be possible at the $1000 price point.
At any rate, you emphatically do NOT need an overclocked bleeding edge C
I love amd (Score:2)
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Meh, the most fun I ever had was in the back seat.
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Have you ever had a 3 way in the back seat? Not as fun as it sounds. Especially when you have a crappy driver.
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Windows Experience Score (Score:3, Informative)
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5.9? (Score:1, Funny)
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Most likely one designed by old-school figure skating fans who don't like the new ISU scoring system.
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Check out:
http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsvista/pag es/458117.aspx [windowsvistablog.com]
Yes, Microsoft only have enough benchmarks to say that something "really surpasses the 5 benchmark by quite a lot". Apparently getting a 6 would require them to define what a 6 "meant" in terms of Windows usability, and beyond 5.9 they haven't thought of anything a more powerful machine could do better.
Frankly, I find the concept t
Homonyms (Score:2)
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No, a discreet GPU is one that doesn't go around telling anybody that you've been using it to render porn. There's probably a substantial market for GPUs like that, as opposed to the ones that go blabbing about your browsing habits to all their friends.
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Speed not size (Score:2)
3GHz expected by years end; an early bench. (Score:4, Informative)
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While I didn't hear this directly when listening to the Tech Day presentation, PC-Mag claims to have heard this. While it is true that Barcelona will launch at 2GHz, Phenom will be launched a good few months later. Further, Phenom is simpler, it only has one HT link instead of three, and qualification for desktop chips is much more forgiving than for server processors. I wouldn't be surprised to this by years end. It should compete well with the 3.2GHz Penryn Intel is expected to launch in the same timeframe. See this slide for the only halfway decent becnhmark AMD has posted for the K10-based cores:
Slide45 [ibeam.com]
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Heat Issues (Score:4, Insightful)
Looking at the picture in the beginning of the article, I don't think I want any system that requires a minimum of 5 case fans and a chipset fan.
If that's what they need to hit 3.0 GHz, they're better off going with watercooling.
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I'm almost certain the fans are for show, I think side mounted fans can cause more problems than it fixes.
Is thing just a dual channel system? Given how people are screaming that Intel's quad core is choking on a lack of bandwidth, running four cores on dual channel memory would seem to be the next bottleneck.
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That looked like a pretty small case to me...
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I think it's only there for show aswell, the CPU fan looks small and "lightweight".
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I'm sorry, I'm sorry, please don't shoot!
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Looking at the picture in the beginning of the article, I don't think I want any system that requires a minimum of 5 case fans and a chipset fan.
Did you ever see the dual processor G5 power mac? It had 10 fans and was silent.
Selling my house! (Score:2, Funny)
I just have to have it.
Now if they can get open source drivers out... (Score:2)
Amen! (Score:2)
I already buy their cpus exclusively because I like their ethos better.
I also don't buy Microsoft products - nor use them illegally, and I only buy meat from companies that actually treat the animals humanely in real life. This may seem like a small deal but it's much more expensive.
The truth is there are people out there that will only use their (limited) dollars to support companies that are morall
Who the hell designed that scale (Score:4, Funny)
"on a scale of 22-46 rate
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I heard something different... (Score:1)
(wah wah wah)
alternate Agena (Score:1)
Goes to 11? (Score:2)
Nigel Tufnel: The numbers all go to eleven. Look, right across the board, eleven, eleven, eleven and...
Marty DiBergi: Oh, I see. And most amps go up to ten?
Nigel Tufnel: Exactly.
Marty DiBergi: Does that mean it's louder? Is it any louder?
Nigel Tufnel: Well, it's one louder, isn't it? It's not ten. You see, most blokes, you know, will be playing at ten. You're on ten here, all the way up, all the way up, all the way up, you're on ten on your guitar. Where can you go from ther
Awesome (Score:3, Insightful)
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Ho-hum, I want SuperPi and **Mark benchmarks (Score:3, Informative)
The important question (Score:2)
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Is this all procs are about these days? when will the 1.21 jiggawatt time travel parallel dual core pud puller come out?
"windows experience index" wtf? (Score:3, Funny)
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Of course, someo
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The experience index still means no more to an XP user than it does to (for example) a Linux user, so the GP had a point.
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Sorry ATI GPUs... (Score:2)
Stop beating a dead horse (Score:1)
Really? (Score:1)
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Not every problem lends it's self to parallel solutions. Even for problems that do break down well into parallel solutions you will eventual reach a point of diminishing returns and complexity issues.
So yes just clock speed isn't the simple metric it used to be. But If I have a choice between two multi-core highly parallel cpus, I will take the one with the faster clock speed if everything else is more or less equal.
Parallelism only goes so far... (Score:2)
IBM's POWER6 is an acknowledgment that parallelism only goes so far. It's around 4.5GHz per core. I'll be interested to see the benchmarks.