Intel Launches Mobile Linux Project 68
An anonymous reader writes "Intel has unveiled an ambitious project aimed at developing open source software for mobile devices. The Moblin project comprises a Linux kernel, UI framework, browser, multimedia framework, and embedded Linux image creation tools, along with developer resources such as documentation, mailing lists, and an IRC channel. Intel says it hopes Moblin will serve as a 'point of integration' for multiple sub-projects, and appears eager to see devices such as its Mobile Internet Device design, and chipsets such as its Ultra Mobile Platform 2007 platform, be thoroughly supported by Linux. Although all of the projects currently focus on the Intel architecture, Moblin says it is open to hosting support for other processor architectures."
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A True Linux Effort (Score:3, Funny)
You can tell Intel is sincere because they've followed the Linux naming convention... and come up with one that sucks :P
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As an update to my tongue-in-cheek comment, maybe they really are getting it:
Stylesheet [w3.org]
They're trying anyway [w3.org]--fails, but it's actually not that bad, looks like just typos.
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As an update to my tongue-in-cheek comment, maybe they really are getting it:
Stylesheet [w3.org]
They're trying anyway [w3.org]--fails, but it's actually not that bad, looks like just typos.
If it does better than the Intel Slashdot section did then...well actually that's not saying much.
Isn't this an OLPC attempt?
Re:A True Linux Effort (Score:4, Funny)
Wii think DS is gnoming to zune be some global tendency in knaming
Already existing projects (Score:4, Interesting)
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Sam
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With HP backing Red Hat and IBM backing SuSE and Red Hat, why did Mark Shuttleworth start a new Linux distro, Ubuntu?
Answer: because if other projects didn't fill the bill, the easiest way to get what you want is to start new one, rather than trying to wrangle with the politics of the existing ones.
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Not sure why the article called it proprietary. Hildon and maemo are open source. The proprietary part is the build that Nokia puts out(along with media streamers,codecs, skype, etc.) called "Internet Tablet 2007" for the N800 (IT2006 for the 770).
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If it works it would suck for MS. Bonus. Windows Mobile is so outdated and MS has shown no signs of pushing out something new. Intel is offering more options in the mobile OS front. Never a bad thing. I guarantee their goal is somewhere in the area I mentioned, sell the hardware, give away some tailored software.
I would think Slashdot would be all over it.
Re:Already existing projects (Score:4, Funny)
Have you heard of NIH? It was invented at Intel. Well, actually it wasn't, but they have their very own, similar but incompatible version of it.
What about OpenMoko (Score:5, Insightful)
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The Neo1973 is the hardware.
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Not that I wouldn't highly appreciate a phone with a pentium 3 powering it. (And modular hardware so it can be forced to work with multiple carriers, the Neo kinda fails the open phone idea because of that (at least as far as I can tell, you cant add CDMA to it and get it to work with spr
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CDMA doesn't seem to be "open" hardware in the slightest, you need new firmware per carrier, at least that's what it seems like.
You'd also be paying some high patent premiums for that hardware to Qualcomm.
That and while it would be awesome in theory, most of those carriers (esp. Verizon) would rather lock everyone out of everything that doesn't use their network. It's going to take a lot of market force th
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Each of the mentioned projects have different goals. This Intel project will support Intel hardware. The OpenMoko project on the other hand actually has a real phone that people can buy, which none of these other projects have.
This is the good thing about open source. With each project doing its own thing, we'll see a lot more support and competition for mobile devices.
As for me, I'm going to get the Neo19
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From the screenshots it looks like they are sort of targetting different devices. OpenMoko is trying to tackle the cellphone/PDA devices, providing a UI that appears to be in a similar vein to Symbian - e.g. each app runs full screen (which is the only sensible way to deal with cellphone sized devices). On the other hand, this appears to look much more like a desktop system, with a fully fledged window manager offering multiple windows, etc. Which leads me to believe this is probably
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- No version of the Linux kernel has ever been released under the GPL 3
- AFAICT, none of the articles mention anything about Intel using a proprietary kernel
- On the projects page of moblin.org they list under the "Kernel" sub-heading that they will be working on "Platform-specific kernel patches and device drivers." I don't see any reason not to take this at face value.
For more info please RTFA. kthxbye.
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a separate proprietary kernel, licensed under GPL2.
Huh? Did we change the definition of proprietary to "All licenses except THE ONE TRUE LICENSE ordained by RMS, may he continue to bless us with his greatness!"
GPLv2 is still open, as are the BSD's Mozilla, and a few others.
Besides, if Intel merely wanted to avoid GPLv3, all they would have to do would be to grab a version licensed under v2 and use that. The bottom says "either version 2 of the License, or (at your option) any later version."
If Intel uses a GPLv2 release of the source (AFAIK, none of
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Reinventing the wheel again? (Score:4, Insightful)
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I have my own obvious personal bias, yes, but I have seen and helped them build and maintain codebases and dev kits for other chipsets. As long as people use it, they will maintain it.
I can also say that overall, there is a HUGE shift to Linux as their development base, coming at great cost to WinCE/Windows Mobile.
(posted anon for obvious reasons).
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Moblin? (Score:2, Funny)
Ultra Mobile Platform 2007 platform... (Score:2, Funny)
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Ubuntu Mobile and Embedded Edition? (Score:3, Interesting)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_N800 [wikipedia.org]
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I hope the contribute back.... (Score:2)
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All down to the browser (Score:2)
It's a fact that no matter how good Opera is at some applications, web sites are often designed with Firefox & IE in mind as target browsers. While this is in many cases symptomatic of bad
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So, this is a case of "Ask and ye shall receive." Kudos to both the Nokia team and the Intel team.
Mobile Linux.. (Score:2, Funny)
And here I thought I was going to read about Intel programming on Linux while driving. Or better yet, putting linux on cars!
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Intel's Grand Plan (Score:1, Interesting)
I've see the question, "Why doesn't 'Intel' use one of the existing projects?" Well, 'Intel' hasn't started any project.
Some guys at Intel, in some group, in a division, did it. It served their purpose, probably for board-set, or platform verification reasons. Some jazzed engineers suggested the project be formalized, and a good manager, decided no to get in the way.
How do I know this? Let's just say, it is an educated guess.
I have seen so many posts about 'Intel' decided, or AMD decided,
Quick! Hide your BowWows! (Score:1)
what about the hardware (Score:1, Flamebait)
I'm wondering when someone is going to release the hardware for me to use. Not all bundled up in a package like the iPhone Linux wanna be that was mentioned on /. a few days ago, but a hardware component package. More like inexpensive pico-itx type devi
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PC/104 (4" square) http://tlb.org/ttds-pc104.html [tlb.org]
Pico-ITX (3.9" x 2.8") http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS2154184680.html [linuxdevices.com]
Embedded Ethernet Boards http://www.ethernut.de/en/hardware/index.html [ethernut.de]
Chumby http://www.chumby.com/ [chumby.com]
Make magazine (lots of fun stuff) http://www.makezine.com/blog/archive/2006/11/the_o pen_source_1.html [makezine.com]
How cute.. (Score:2)
Is there some kind of secret rule that ties OSS projects to terrible naming? Maybe like a blood pact or something?
Why not target the mobile platform from the getgo? (Score:2)