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PC Power Management, ACPI Explained In Detail 133

DK writes "Computer performance has increased steadily in recent years, and unfortunately so has power consumption. An ultimate gaming system equipped with a quad-core processor, two NVIDIA GeForce 8800 Ultra, 4 sticks of DDR2 memory, and a few hard drives can easily consume 500W without doing anything! To reduce power wastage, the industry standards APM and ACPI have been developed to make our computers work more efficiently. ACPI is the successor of APM and is explained in detail in this article."
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PC Power Management, ACPI Explained In Detail

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  • by Tyrion Moath ( 817397 ) on Wednesday July 11, 2007 @02:27AM (#19822371)
    Agreed. I was hoping for a couple tips and pointers on how to use a little less power at least, but none there. I suppose the obvious one is just to turn the computer off whenever I'm not using it, but I do that anyway.
  • 500W? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by achurch ( 201270 ) on Wednesday July 11, 2007 @03:06AM (#19822541) Homepage

    Is that why people don't blink at PS3s and X360s that eat 150-200W when they're idle? I guess that locks me and my 100W/system power budget out of gaming . . .

    Seriously, what is it that uses up so much power? I've got a pretty standard dual-core system that idles at about 65W, and I can't push it beyond 150W even when I try.

  • Re:OS (Score:5, Interesting)

    by donaldm ( 919619 ) on Wednesday July 11, 2007 @03:14AM (#19822573)
    The problem with any electronic device is they (to state the obvious) consume power so manufactureres have opted for approx 1W in standby mode. Unfortunately if you take a stereo amp plus active woofer a TV, HDD DVD recorder, set-top box (if you have one) and a least one game console (assuming they also consume 1W in standby) and you have a total of 7W consumption. Now extrapolate that to 10M people (I am being very conservative here) and that is 70MW overall consumption just for your entertainment system to do nothing.

    Of course once you turn on your entertainment system the power consumption (taking the above example) can easily jump to 7GW even with fairly conservative systems. Now try the same simple maths with your fridge, microwave oven, oven clock (in fact any clock) and anything else that consumes power in standby. Add in lights even low wattage ones and your hot water heater (assume electrical off-peak not gas or solar) and the power consumption is massive. With regard to PC's and laptops consumption is dependent on what you have and can vary between 20W to over 1000W, It is possible to put a laptop in standby or sleep mode but this depends on if you are using your laptop as a standalone machine.

    So what are we going to do about all that wastage? Well if you pay for your electricity and you want convenience then absolutely nothing and this is what most people will do.
  • Re:OS (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Daath ( 225404 ) <lp AT coder DOT dk> on Wednesday July 11, 2007 @03:27AM (#19822629) Homepage Journal
    I call BS. I have a C2D T7400-based laptop with 2GB RAM, Geforce GO 7600 and a 100GB 7200RPM-drive. It boots [a lot] faster with Vista than it does with XP (I've had both installed, currently using Vista). Vista has a lot of other annoying bugs though - mostly driver-related. A few NVidia-drivers made the Vista "Sleep" BSOD, but a newer beta fixed it for me. Another annoying bug on this (Zepto) laptop is that the NIC (not the WiFi) is flaky. Disabling it often makes it completely disappear :P
    OTOH, there might be something about what you are saying. I think that a fast drive has a lot of say in booting Vista.
  • Re:OS (Score:3, Interesting)

    by fbjon ( 692006 ) on Wednesday July 11, 2007 @05:16AM (#19823095) Homepage Journal
    I'd say power consumption goes up very slowly on average. First it goes up fast, but so far there's always been some design breakthrough that drops it down to manageable levels again. Case in point: my X2 4400+ uses power roughly on the same level as my previous 2400+ XP, and significantly less when it drops down to idle usage (due to C'n'Q). I previously had a rather slow GF 6200, that had a passive heatsink. My current 7800GT uses a bit more power, but not so much it couldn't survive with just a heatpipe with no active cooling even when in heavy use, and it's much more powerful in terms of processing power.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 11, 2007 @08:00AM (#19823801)
    So how come linux still fails to support it?
  • Re:500W? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Rick17JJ ( 744063 ) on Wednesday July 11, 2007 @08:38AM (#19824051)

    I used a Kill-A-Watt meter to measure power usage on my two computers. My main computer is a less than 2 year old single-core AMD-64 3800+ with 1 GB RAM, two hard drives, an 83% efficient power supply, a fanless water cooled CPU, a 20 inch flat panel monitor and runs Kubuntu Linux. The monitor uses 40 Watts and the rest of the computer uses about 94 Watts most of the time. In the sleep mode the monitor only uses about 1 Watt. Under heavy use the CPU power usage is much more. I don't like noise, so I chose a graphics card that did not require a fan and which probably does not use very much power.

    I also have a second computer hooked to the same keyboard, monitor and mouse through a KVM switch. It is an AOpen Mini PC with an Intel Core 2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz CPU and 2 MB of RAM and Windows XP Professional. It uses 23 Watts most of the time, but uses more under heavy usage. The 20 inch flat panel monitor uses an additional 40 Watts or just 1 Watt in the sleep mode. Occasionally, I run both computers at the same time and with just one monitor, keyboard and mouse can switch back and forth between computers in about a second or so. Even when I occasionally run both computers at once, I am not using an unreasonable amount of power.

    I am not a gamer and for what I do both computers meet my needs very nicely. The AMD-64 running Kubuntu computer is my main computer. I haven't measured the power usage during all the different sleep modes so my information is somewhat incomplete. With the monitor in the 1 Watt sleep mode, I can leave the computer on most of the day without feeling like I am wasting an unreasonable amount of power. To me, 500 Watts sounds way too wasteful.

    Kill-A-Watt meter [thinkgeek.com]

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