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Celebrating the HP-35 Calculator With a New Model 203

An anonymous reader writes "Hewlett-Packard last week announced a contest whereby HP-35 fans create and submit videos of their favorite calculator memories. HP will choose the best videos and you can win a 50-inch, high-def plasma TV. But everyone wins, because HP this summer will debut a special new calculator model. The details aren't announced, however, it's likely to be a 35th anniversary edition of some sort."
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Celebrating the HP-35 Calculator With a New Model

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  • by AirLace ( 86148 ) on Monday April 09, 2007 @09:53PM (#18670213)
    Wouldn't it be great to see an innovative new calculator design from HP to mark the 35th anniversary rather than a re-hashed "special edition" of some classic design?
  • by El Cubano ( 631386 ) on Monday April 09, 2007 @09:54PM (#18670225)

    But everyone wins, because HP this summer will debut a special new calculator model. The details aren't announced, however, it's likely to be a 35th anniversary edition of some sort."

    I love my HP 48GX. I'd love to see an updated 48GX with a faster processor and more memory. Mine is 11 or 12 years old and I still like it better than anything that has come since then, including all of TI's offerings which many schools prefer. With all the advances in semiconductor technology, you could pack a lot more memory and performance into the same package. Hopefully we won't have to wait for a 48th anniversary edition.

  • Re:Wrong calculator (Score:5, Interesting)

    by 644bd346996 ( 1012333 ) on Monday April 09, 2007 @09:58PM (#18670239)
    No, Bring Back the 15c! [hp15c.org]

    Seriously, the 15c's features were a superset of the 11c's features, with the exception of the register allocation scheme. But they can do that however they want these days.
  • by EmbeddedJanitor ( 597831 ) on Monday April 09, 2007 @10:01PM (#18670253)
    RPN is pure geekiness isn't it? Wrong! Amazingly, the most popular RPN calculators are the HP11/12 which are for beancounters!

    I learnt to program on an HP29C overalmost 30 years ago. 98 instructions (well keystrokes) of programming and only a few registers forced you to be pretty frugal, although at the time we thought that was pretty plush compared with the HP25 whiuch had half the memory.

    As I type this, I have an HP48SX and HP28S on the desk in front of me. Great devices. My kids both use HP48s for their routine calculations & programming too.

  • by AstrumPreliator ( 708436 ) on Monday April 09, 2007 @10:13PM (#18670303)
    Well as far as I know they've shut down [hpcalc.org] their calculator division. So unless they opened a new one somewhere else I doubt this will happen.
  • Re:Probably the 41CV (Score:3, Interesting)

    by ClosedSource ( 238333 ) on Monday April 09, 2007 @10:18PM (#18670343)
    I'd like to see a programmer's calculator like the 16C but with an alphanumeric display and programming capability like the 41CV. After programming the 41CV with the alphanumeric display, I couldn't stand scrolling through a program on the 16C and having to map numeric keycodes to functions.
  • Re:TI (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Rob the Bold ( 788862 ) on Monday April 09, 2007 @10:25PM (#18670395)

    Wow, I must be really ignorant, but because every school across the country seemingly pushes TI use in school, I didn't think people used anything else.

    Back in the day when HP still made calculators, everyone else -- TI included -- played second fiddle. HPs were the premier pocket (or belt-loop pouch) calculator from the early Seventies to the mid nineties, more capable, more durable and more desirable than TI, Casio, or any other pretender.

    Too bad they abandoned the market and now only sell rebranded units from Asia. Check http://www.hpmuseum.org/ [hpmuseum.org] for the complete history of the HP calculator.

  • by MykePagan ( 452299 ) on Monday April 09, 2007 @11:15PM (#18670761)
    In maybe 1974 my dad, a Civil Engineer bought an HP 35C. Even though it cost a fortune (in those days), he let his 10 year old son (me) play with it. I remember being so impressed with it that it cemented my impression that HP was THE company to work for, if you were an electrical engineer.

    18 years later I joined HP.

    15 years after that and I'm still at HP. It's not the same place that it was in 1992, but then again what place is? I'd still rather be here than at the other computer makers, but the software and services companies are where the real action is now. Unfortunately, few of them seem to have that same "engineer's company" feel that HP did back in the day.

    FWIW I don't blame Carly, though I didn't like her either. It was inevitable, with commoditization of the hardware.
  • by Majik Sheff ( 930627 ) on Monday April 09, 2007 @11:17PM (#18670783) Journal
    That's why I carry my trusty 33s. I've sold many of my co-workers and associates on RPN just by running circles around them on complex calculations. They're parsing parentheses and I'm writing numbers. It is sad that yet another part of HP that made it great is all but dead. HP is dead, long live Agilent. (though I can't complain about my LaserJet 5si)
  • by 644bd346996 ( 1012333 ) on Monday April 09, 2007 @11:19PM (#18670793)
    The 50g is anything but a fisher price calculator. I have a [dead] 48gII and a 50g, and the improvement in quality is (obviously) like night and day. I do believe they are done with the crappy keyboards of recent years.

    Also, they never stopped making quality business calculators. The 12c has been on the market continuously for more than 25 years.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 09, 2007 @11:21PM (#18670805)
    I am the operator, with my pocket calculator... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZt64_XOflk [youtube.com]

    (And it have a special key...)
  • by cgenman ( 325138 ) on Monday April 09, 2007 @11:22PM (#18670811) Homepage
    Can anyone update an old timer as to the state of calculator development? When I was getting out of these things, it looked like TI and HP were going to have a duel to the death. With color LCD's on the verge of availability and the Power PC line of low-power chips set to overtake the world, it looked like a bright future of powerful visualizations.

    Fifteen years on, it looks like the high-end calculator market has all but been abandoned to mathematica. Prices for the calculators haven't budged a dollar, while the price of all of the components have dropped to next to nothing.

    Who is still making these things? Who, if anyone, is still competing?
  • Re:TI (Score:4, Interesting)

    by pyite ( 140350 ) on Tuesday April 10, 2007 @12:19AM (#18671381)
    A person who has spent time with an HP will run rings around someone with a TI on almost any calculations

    It's been a few years, but I remember in things like physics labs where you have to do a lot of number crunching, all of my lab partners would always plug along dutifully on their TIs while I would have done the calculation twice (once and then a double check) using RPN on my 48GX. I don't use a calculator much anymore, as MATLAB tends to be quicker for the things I need to do, but whatever HP lacks in computational power, it makes up for in efficient syntax.

  • by Ardipithecus ( 985280 ) on Tuesday April 10, 2007 @12:38AM (#18671501)
    Do the numbers as you wish, but,

    I, for one, welcomed our new hp overlords

    1973, Jr. year (OMG!), Florida (yes, the Gators)

    $300 very hard earned real dollars went into the hp-35, maybe (judging from house and car prices) $3-5k today) and about the best money I ever spent

    As they say, it let me concentrate on concepts rather than number crunching; within a year everyone had one (or the awful TIs) and engineering (and science) would never be the same. Take offense if you must, but RPN users are smarter.

    Followed by a 67, 25, 21, 41, 28, 48 (G and GX), 49 and recently another 21, for the collection. They all work. By now I use a 48 and only do basic stuff, with smarter (always hire smarter people) young engineers doing the hard stuff under my possibly wise direction

    We worked with hp on several tweaks; an admirable co. and group of guys.

    If the surprise is a gold plated hp-35, I'm in line. What will you young guys see in 35 years, post singularity?

    To quote the now prehistoric Grateful Dead: "What a long strange trip it's been"

  • Sears golden ratchet (Score:3, Interesting)

    by WindBourne ( 631190 ) on Tuesday April 10, 2007 @12:40AM (#18671517) Journal
    Sears did a gold plated ratchet wrench for its anniversary. It would be interesting to see HP do something nice like that. The truth is that HP calcs last nearly forever, so why not?
  • Re:RPN (Score:2, Interesting)

    by iocat ( 572367 ) on Tuesday April 10, 2007 @12:41AM (#18671523) Homepage Journal
    I don't know sh*t about calculators, but I do know a bit about language, and here's a handy rule for you: the more detailed the word endings and forms, the less word order matters. That's true for almost every language. You can see this both ways in modern English, if you compare it to what I think of as "immigrant English," which frequently eliminates word endings for various reasons.

    For instance, I could say, to a native english speaker, "handed me the man did a book" and it basically makes sense, because the word endings/forms are right, while "hand me the man does a book" just doesn't make any sense at all. Signs like "park two dollar" or "no refill outside cup" really rely on word order to make sense in English, because they are totally ungrammatical otherwise,and you need the grammar to work at least one way (word order or endings) to make sense in English. These examples are kind of bad, but you see what I mean (it's also hard for a fluent speaker to even come up with the kind of bad examples that non-fluent speakers come up with). Euro languages have been moving more towards word order being important and less to word endings being important since like, the fall of Rome. I expect the influx of immigrants to English-speaking countries will probably exaserbate that trend in the coming decades, as it seems to be easier to remember word order rules than word form rules.

    Christ this off topic, sorry.

  • TI-Nspire (Score:4, Interesting)

    by nbritton ( 823086 ) on Tuesday April 10, 2007 @03:53AM (#18672437)
    TI is coming out with a new calculator this fall, called the Nspire...

    http://www.ti-nspire.com/tools/nspire/index.html [ti-nspire.com]

    * 320x240 Gray Scale LCD
    * CAS Functions.
    * 16MB RAM
    * 20MB Flash
  • by csfenton ( 82915 ) on Tuesday April 10, 2007 @01:59PM (#18678935)
    In '72, I saw the HP advertizement in Scientific American. I ordered it by calling HP directly. I had to send them a bank check for $400.00. I had to wait more than three months; into the beginning of third year in U of M Engineering school.

    It finally arrived in late September.

    So how did I handle it? It was the only one on campus that I was aware of. I took it to my professors and asked if I could use it in class and on exams. After they wiped the drool away, they all said yes.

    It saw the greatest use in the dorm, loaned to engineers taking surveying. I adopted a policy of loaning it to anyone in the dorm (Bursely Hall) that asked to borrow it. Everyone knew it belonged to me. It always came back.

    Predictions: Talking about calculators in class that same year (1972), I took a three ring notebook turned it sideways opened it and suggested the facing cover would be the display screen and the keyboard would be where the pages were held; a personal laptop computer. I had to wait another twenty years for it to arrive on my desk.

    Worst experiance with it: I missed an 'A' in a mechanical design course by one point. I took a square root (one key stroke) instead of cube root (x raised to the y) on the final exam. The professor wouldn't budge.

    I wish I still had it. After graduation, I loaned to to my employer's wife for to calculate discounts in a flower & plant store she was running. The store was broken into and it was stolen. They paid for a later model (21 or 25??).

    I didn't like little leather case that came with it; too insubstantial. I bought a zippered bible cover and a bakelite case at Radio Shack. I trimmed the case to fit inside the bible cover and then lined the case with nylon lined neoprene to absorb shock. The 35 fit perfectly inside. I still have case. I keep my LCD multi-meter in it.

    If I had it I would probably have it mounted on the wall in my office.
  • Re:RPN (Score:3, Interesting)

    by AK Marc ( 707885 ) on Tuesday April 10, 2007 @04:02PM (#18680947)
    I expect the influx of immigrants to English-speaking countries will probably exacerbate that trend in the coming decades, as it seems to be easier to remember word order rules than word form rules.

    For the Chinese, that would be very true. There are no word forms. All words are fixed with no tenses, no gender (save for the gender-specific words themselves, like "man" or "woman"), no conjugation at all, not even plurals. Having learned some Chinese, I can now read the bad signs with clarity (aside from the ones with bad translations). The errors are simple and predictable for people that have never been exposed to words that change.

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