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Nvidia Faces Class Action Lawsuit Over Vista Drivers 445

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Cocoshimmy writes "Nvidia is facing a class action lawsuit for false advertising by not providing stable working drivers for Vista. Nvidia has been accused of closing threads on Nvidia's forum and banning users that request a response from Nvidia, post that their Nvidia hardware does not work under Vista, post that Nvidia software does not work under Vista, post that Nvidia is guilty of false advertising, or threaten to sue Nvidia. Several disgruntled users have set up their own site for discussing their legal options."
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Nvidia Faces Class Action Lawsuit Over Vista Drivers

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  • Linux support (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Carnildo (712617) on Friday February 02, 2007 @09:30PM (#17868490) Homepage Journal
    It seems that for once, there's a major piece of computer hardware with better driver support for Linux than for Windows.
  • by Vellmont (569020) on Friday February 02, 2007 @09:47PM (#17868674)

    Just upgraded a machine, network & sound works, but when I scroll in Firefox, I get choppy audio playback in Winamp; in the process of trying to figure out if it's Winamp at fault or the audio driver.

    Does your AGP bus run under the PCI to PCI bridge like my Nforce 1 does? If so that could easily be the problem. Nvidia decided to not write drivers for the AGP bus. To check look under Device manager, system devices and look for PCI Standard PCI to PCI Bridge.

    I'm not terribly happy with Nvidia, but of course I don't have any basis to sue them either.
  • by laffer1 (701823) <luke AT foolishgames DOT com> on Friday February 02, 2007 @10:14PM (#17868908) Homepage Journal
    PureVideo is not supported in Vista x64 either. That is false advertising. I did upgrade to vista and can tell you that the nvidia drivers are terrible. As of Vista launch day, only the 8000 series had working opengl officially. You can actually install that driver and it will work with the 7000 series as well. I have a 7300 GS which was purchased in november. It should work with vista. I run windows for gaming and right now I can play more games in MidnightBSD which no one supports.

    This was my second nvidia card and first in my primary desktop. I will not buy another one. AMD gets my money next time. Their drivers suck and they don't support any BSD, but at least they aren't rude.

  • by DrYak (748999) on Friday February 02, 2007 @10:14PM (#17868914) Homepage

    Just use the 'nv' driver. I'm sure someone can port it to Vista.
    Someone moded you funny, but in fact, it does make sense.
    Most Windows XP 32/64 and Vista 32 drivers for 3DFx Voodoo cards are partially done by backporting libglide3x and mesa3d from linux to windows (and thus also earned the privilege of being among the few graphic boards supported in XP64)

    Although not actually Windows XP/Vista per se, the Linux USB stack has been also ported to ReactOS (opensource clone of Windows NT family) and Cromwell (opensource BIOS for XBox).

    Therefore, some simple driver, with no 3D acceleration could be possibly done out of source available in linux.
    (And if nVidia still doesn't fix the problem*, maybe some useful infos from the Nouveau project could be used to add the 3D functionnality. Having a complete opensource driver next to the commercial one isn't something unheard of in the Win32 world : Audigy sound cards have both official drivers from Creative and the kX project).

    ----

    * : Isn't completly unlikely. Their main audience, from which they earn most money are game players. Given the fact that almost all current games run on Windows XP + DX9, they'ld better spend more money in improving the WinXP support, to have a higher position in tests to sell more to gamers, rather than spend the same money on Vista, and thus risking to loose customer due to better Catalyst. I won't be surprised if, appart for their made-for-DX10 flagship products and business oriented cards, progress of Vista drivers are as slow as for linux, until games start to appear that target Vist DX10.

  • I exchanged emails with nvidia PR man Ken Brown asking for an official response from nvidia about the Vista/nvidia DVD playback kludge with tv-out

    basically, if you have TV-out enabled, like to watch a DVD on your HDTV over VIVO component cables, vista disables the dvd playback by breaking the overlay on any application/video stack. This, I confirmed, worked just fine on the same HDTV over VGA though.

    Naturally, after thanking me for bringing the "issue" to their attention, Mr. Brown ignored my last email. Maybe now, Mr. Brown will take the time out of his busy day to respond.

    we're waiting.
  • by jonwil (467024) on Friday February 02, 2007 @11:40PM (#17869534)
    There are 2 problems:
    1.Nvidia claimed that these cards were "vista ready" "Direct3D 10 ready" etc. Since they do not have usable vista drivers for these cards, those claims are a lie. The cards are not usable with Vista.
    and more to the point 2.They refuse to acknowledge any of the problems. In fact, they are actively censoring mention of anything to do with these cards and vista.

    I suspect that if they came out and said "yeah, we know these cards don't work so good on vista. We are working on it and will have drivers available for Vista as soon as we can" instead of trying to censor the discussion and deny that anyone would ever want to use an 8800 series card with Vista it would make people a lot happier.
  • by cheekyboy (598084) on Saturday February 03, 2007 @02:11AM (#17870530) Homepage Journal
    They both just have to BOYCOTT drivers for Vista, they are not required by law or contract to make drivers.

    They can just say, NO, until we can do it OUR WAY.

    Vista will sell like ZERO sales.... MS will force NO DRM on FUIA.

    So who else is the choice besides these two for good 3d? nothing, absolutely nothing, matrox? no not really...

    They hold the cards, either make buggy drivers, and MSs DX10 vista scheme will die, or just dont support vista, due
    to less than 50m install base marketing idealogy.

    MS holds no power, their DX10 + DRM is useless with no supported 3d cards apart from intels chipsets which are crap.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 03, 2007 @03:20AM (#17870924)
    I chose the simple way around, and signed all the various drivers with my companies authenticode cert.

    Works flawlessly. I wonder if that's what Microsoft intended to do.
  • by takev (214836) on Saturday February 03, 2007 @05:49AM (#17871432)
    Upscaling SD-DVD, with Macrovision enabled, over analogue component cables is not allowed by the DVD consortium. So it may not be a bug, but a requirement.
    Actually quite likely it is a bug that you can actually playback upscaled SD-DVD on your VGA cable, as the only legal way to watch upscaled SD-DVD is over a digital cable like DVI and HDMI with proper HDCP handshake.

    You are allowed to upscale SD-DVDs without Macrovision, so copying a SD-DVD may actually work; like it does for Toshiba's HD-DVD player, which allows non-Macrovision SD-DVDs to be upscaled on the component output. You are also allowed to use progressive output on component cables, as long as you are not upscaling.

    Of course we will have to wait for nvidia to give the real explanation, I just wanted to rant a little bit.
  • by gbjbaanb (229885) on Saturday February 03, 2007 @11:51AM (#17873546)
    Go to Nvidia web site, look for the drivers - they're there for graphics cards if not for motherboards - and read the release notes.

    These NVIDA Windows Vista drivers are under development. This version is not fully optimized for full 3D performance and may not include all available features available on different operating systems. NVIDIA, along with the industry, is continuing to update its Windows Vista drivers to ensure maximum performance on 3D applications and add support for features. These drivers are provided "AS IS." NVIDIA MAKES NO [BLAH BLAH BLAH]
    Unfortunately the front page for nvidia.com has a huge advert how Nvidia is 'Essential for the best windows vista experience' :)

    They have a new set of drivers out as of the 31st jan, but they're still beta.

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