The Robot Professor 136
kaizokunami writes "From Wired News, we learn that a Japanese professor has created an android of himself that he uses to 'robot in' to classes. According to the article, 'It blinks and fidgets in its seat, moving its foot up and down restlessly, its shoulders rising gently as though it were breathing. These micromovements are so convincing that it's hard to believe this is a machine -- it seems more like a man wearing a rubber mask.'" More from the article: "'I want to check whether students, as well as my family, can feel my presence through Geminoid,' says Ishiguro, who seems perfectly at ease with his new twin. Geminoid already has a palpable gravitas that comes across when chatting to Ishiguro through the android, and one hesitates to even poke the machine's rubbery hands and cheeks."
automated grad student (Score:3, Funny)
Re:automated grad student (Score:2, Funny)
Re:automated grad student (Score:3, Funny)
And it'll probably have a damn thick accent, too. *breep*-*breep*
Let me be the first to say... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Let me be the first to say... (Score:2, Insightful)
no, wait a minute... He's Kilroy!
Re:Let me be the first to say... (Score:1)
Re:Let me be the first to say... (Score:2)
Hey Professor... (Score:2)
[voice= Twiki's Girlfriend]
Well I think it's Booty Booty Booty!
[/voice]
Don't forget to turn it off (Score:2)
Now imagine "roboting in" from home to give your lecture, then forgetting to turn it off before you did something else you might do in your home. Maybe burst out into a Numa-Numa rendition, Starwars fight with your dog, or spank the monkey.
I'm sure it will happen when these "pres
Now professors (Score:1)
Re:Now professors (Score:3, Funny)
KFG
Re:Now professors (Score:1)
Palpable gravitas.... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Palpable gravitas.... (Score:3, Insightful)
This is pretty confusing.. (Score:1)
Time for (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Time for (Score:1)
Re:Time for (Score:1)
OMG Robot ponnies!
I for one welcome our new Robot Professor Overlords!
(sorry, I am not good for this)
Re:Time for (Score:2)
So this Japenesse professor is actually... (Score:1)
Just not a fan of such humanoid robots (Score:2)
Re:Just not a fan of such humanoid robots (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Just not a fan of such humanoid robots (Score:2)
Personally, I'd rather the female naked assassin robots weren't invisible. Because of both the "naked" part, and the "assassin" part.
Re:Just not a fan of such humanoid robots (Score:2)
Because they're both coming, and IMHO either way it's going to suck.
Re:Just not a fan of such humanoid robots (Score:2)
Re:Just not a fan of such humanoid robots (Score:2)
Uncanny Valley (Score:4, Interesting)
STNG (Score:2, Funny)
But is this robot professor... fully functional? Alternitively, in other news half of slashdot realizes that they can make their very own girl robot...
Ow! My eyes! The goggles, they do nothing!
Re:STNG (Score:1)
Hair styles (Score:1)
I personally would have made myself taller, a little more athletic, and heat vision is a must.
Sealab 2021 (Score:1)
Debbie: humans! you still have a human brain
Sparks: but the humans would discriminate against you. you cant even vote!
Marco Rodrigo: man, we better not have to live on reservations, that would really chap my caboose!
Evil Twin? (Score:1, Funny)
Sure, he may be at ease with his 'twin' now, but little does he realize that it's actually all part of its nefarious plan for world domination. Soon he will be disposed of, and his identity taken over...
Re:Evil Twin? (Score:2)
How do we get to be teacher's pet? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:How do we get to be teacher's pet? (Score:1)
I for one.. (Score:3, Insightful)
Seriously, something like this must destroy students concentration.. It certainly seems to take away the human side of teaching.
Re:I for one.. (Score:1)
Re:I for one.. (Score:2)
Re:I for one.. (Score:2)
Of course we do! We have lots of laughs making fun of the stupid crap undergrads put on paper. We even post the funnier ones on the wall in the graduate assistant office.
Re:I for one.. (Score:2)
Impaired Human (Score:1, Insightful)
This is really great, but... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:This is really great, but... (Score:2)
Re:This is really great, but... (Score:2)
Impressions mean alot (Score:3, Interesting)
Does anyone else think they would have a hard time learning from and listening to an object that didn't exude intelligence, even if in the background it was being controlled by a highly intelligent individual?
Re:Impressions mean alot (Score:1)
I've had to learn from quite a few professors that don't exactly exude intelligence, so I'm not sure this really changes anything. If anything, they absorbed it.
Re:Impressions mean alot (Score:2)
Yes. I always find my attention wandering during those State of the Union Addresses.
Re:Impressions mean alot (Score:2)
Re:Impressions mean alot (Score:1)
not an intelligent robot (Score:3, Informative)
Re:not an intelligent robot (Score:1)
But why bother to build robots that look like humans? Ishiguro views machines as good vehicles to learn more about human nature. He combines engineering with cognitive science with the aim of making very humanlike robots, which can be used as test beds for theories about human perception, communication and cognition. He calls his approach "android science."
"A robot is a kind of simulator for expressing human functions, especially the cerebellum or the muscles," says Norihiro Hagita, director of
Re:not an intelligent robot (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:not an intelligent robot (Score:2)
Re:not an intelligent robot (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:not an intelligent robot (Score:2)
It'd be perfect for a RoboPolitician!
Personality Simulations (Score:1)
Couldn't be worse than some that I've had... (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Couldn't be worse than some that I've had... (Score:1)
Why sit in a class and listen to a recording while staring at some Chuck E Cheese prop when you could sit at home and read the material 10 times faster?
Are we so hung up on this obselete and ancient system of "lecture" that we would stoop to such levels?
Get it through your head everyone! Sitting in a lecture is the antithesis of learning! College is a highly inefficient way to learn as a result of this.
Re:Couldn't be worse than some that I've had... (Score:2, Funny)
One of my lecturers told me that at one of the few lectures I attended. All the time I thought i was lazy, I was just being efficient.
Re:Couldn't be worse than some that I've had... (Score:1)
Re:Couldn't be worse than some that I've had... (Score:2)
Yes.
You have to jump through hoops in order to get a piece of paper so you can get a job and jump through more hoops.
It's either that or Display Adaptability(tm) and find your own way to make a living.
I do find it both sad and amusing that you need to mostly sit still in order to get a piece of paper that will convince your employer that you're dumb enough to sit still for their bullshit.
Re:Couldn't be worse than some that I've had... (Score:2)
Um, they have teachers like this. It's called a "book on tape", or equiv. Skip the Disney rubber face BS.
That said, the learning process should be much more interactive with a mentor that that. If you're not able eto dialog with your prof., then you may be in the wrong class. (Maybe you're talking to a mannequin?)
Re:Couldn't be worse than some that I've had... (Score:3, Funny)
Or if it makes you more comfortable, play the book on tape through a Teddy Ruxpin. Same difference.
Re:Couldn't be worse than some that I've had... (Score:1)
Re:Couldn't be worse than some that I've had... (Score:1)
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It _can_ answer questions. (Score:2)
Re:Couldn't be worse than some that I've had... (Score:2)
Re:Couldn't be worse than some that I've had... (Score:2)
In the long term maybe, it all depends on cost. I'd be mixed replacing "low end" jobs with machines like these since then we'd need to find/create more "low end" jobs to replace them. If you actually could replace 90-98% of current human jobs with machines, then what would 98% of the population end up doing? I'd think that machi
Re:Couldn't be worse than some that I've had... (Score:2)
But can this RoboProfessor... (Score:2)
If so, that would be an ingenious invention.
Don't trust this guy (Score:3, Funny)
Sounds like this guy is using The Force to suit his evil purposes.
Re:Don't trust this guy (Score:2)
I might be convinced if he reports that the robot stood in for him during a go with the missus so he could recompile Gentoo.
So we've gone from artificial intelligence... (Score:2)
What wonderful times we live in.
Seriously, though - if this thing can wait for the cable guy, he should sell a million of them.
I'd be careful (Score:5, Funny)
And those grad students need to take better care of themselves - look at the acne on the guy in the last picture! He's giving even the most ardent mom's basement-dwelling
Re:I'd be careful (Score:2)
Relax, it's Japan - they have ninjas.
I wish... (Score:1)
Not impressed. (Score:4, Insightful)
A robot doesn't look alive simply because its eyes wander around the room. If the intent is to guage human reaction to the thing I think they're going to find the response is exceedingly negative given how mishapen and disturbing the robot looks.
It's not like this is anything particularly unique either, it just happened that this guy used his own face as a model. Although, I suppose this guy's work isn't surprising given the amount of research and development Japanese put towards consumer products. I predict that will be the ultimate application we'll see for this work.
I'd be impressed if they were developing AI which mimicked human reactions. If the thing could learn by watching people and apply those observations for its own use in interactions.
Re:Not impressed. (Score:2)
This robot is not an exercise in AI -it is an exercise in robotics. Your lack of enthusiasm stems from the fact that you are interested in a different domain. To put the article in a more positive light, this story is a sign of the times. Maybe it doesn't demonstrate a completely new and incredible breakthrough (in fact it defini
Re:Not impressed. (Score:1)
The Future (Score:1)
Robot professors (Score:2)
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avatar (Score:4, Insightful)
Which makes this an avatar. He provides the essential interactive elements which would make it appealing to students (he seems to hope).
Psychologists may find something interesting here, being the way humans relate to this 'once removed' human presence.
When I was a kid in australia we had some friends who lived a long way away in the outback. Their kids attended school by Radio sometimes (perhaps all the time, I don't recall, this was over thirty years ago). A teacher who had a local presence might be an interesting extension of that basic idea. It's virtually the same thing as radio in this context, but more advanced.
What might be good is to use such a device to interact with people who are severely disabled. A system capable of translating the teachers actions into stimuli useful for the particuler student would have a lot of advantages. That way one teacher could interact with a class full of students with varying needs, where their own version of the Avatar translates to their needs.
Re:avatar (Score:1)
Your post reminded me of a movie I'd seen, although it took me forever to remember the title so I could reference it on here. (Thank you, keyword search.)
The Japanese film Hinokio [wikipedia.org] is about a reclusive wheelchair-ridden boy whose father builds him a robotic avatar which he can control from his room, which he uses to attend school, etc. [Wikipedia has a longer summary; I'm trying to stay spoiler-free.]
I thought it was a fairly interesting film, and if the technology is there for a robotic-avatar teacher
The State of the Art meets the Art of the State (Score:5, Funny)
But it's not autonomous, right? (Score:2)
It would be different if there was travel involved - then you would at least save the time of going to the meeting. But for local events, this seems
The point of the robot... (Score:4, Insightful)
The robot is supposed to simply project the presence of the professor remotely. Obviously we can do that to some degree with just a two way television hookup, but it's not like being in the room. You can't point at students and interact with them through a flat display. You can't change where the camera is pointing, and the students don't really know what the professor can see.
I think the biggest thing that this robot is missing is "gaze". If you ask me, the single distinguishing feature of presence is making eye contact. As someone pointed out, it doesn't look like there's actually any cameras in the eyes of this robot, so the actual professor can't see what the robot is "looking" at. If the robot could have gaze, reproduce facial expressions, and even replicate hand gestures, I think that would go a long way to having remote presence.
Re:The point of the robot... (Score:2)
Sure you can. Just see where the student is in the room and point at that imaginary location. The viewing class will figure it out. Oh, call the student's name.
"You can't change where the camera is pointing, and the students don't really know what the professor can see."
That's even a more of a "sure". Have a joy stick.
It's done all the time now.
Just what is the need for a remote "presence" greater than a large screen with a
Yes, but... (Score:3, Insightful)
Ummm... (Score:1)
Related? (Score:1)
Are there any video clips? (Score:2)
Re:Are there any video clips? (Score:1)
"Do you know where that smell's coming from?"
It's a Bloody Puppet (Score:3, Insightful)
"A Geminoid operator wears motion-tracking lip markers. When the operator moves his mouth, Geminoid's lips make the same movement. A speaker inside the android lets the robotic double be heard."
And best said by one of the comments below the picture section:
"It's not even an android. It's all puppet and that all it is. If you have to have an operator in a back room running the thing, it doesn't even qualify as a robot, much less an "android"..... Oh, and Jim Hensen is dead, so his opinion doesn't matter. Mark Cannistraci"
Be more realistic (Score:2)
Is he (the robot) good enough to only hit on the really hot ones (infrared sensors)?
Check out the movies of the android (Score:2)
http://robot.watch.impress.co.jp/static/2006/07/21
http://robot.watch.impress.co.jp/static/2006/07/21
http://robot.watch.impress.co.jp/static/2006/07/21
http://robot.watch.impress.co.jp/static/2006/07/21
http://robot.watch.impress.co.jp/static/2006/07/21
Re:I can see it now... (Score:1)
KFG
Re:I can see it now... (Score:2, Informative)
Re:I can see it now... (Score:1, Funny)