Mobile Processor Showdown 192
AnInkle writes "The Tech Report has a head-to-head comparison between the Pentium M760 and the Turion ML-44. From the article: 'AMD has done well with Opteron in servers and the Athlon 64 in desktops, but surely AMD's K8-derived mobile competitor doesn't match up with the Pentium M. Does it?' Conventional wisdom (or marketing genius) says Pentium M's power-saving features and performance-per-watt leave AMD's Turion 64 gasping for batteries. Even though the next-gens are just around the corner, countless mobile systems will sell with these chips over the next year; find out which to choose, whether for performance, battery life or a combination of both."
Re:mTurion MTs (Score:3, Informative)
Re:What about heat saving? (Score:1, Informative)
It starts about 51-55 degrees on light load with a voltage of 0.900
Under heavy load, like encoding a dvd, the CPU voltage reaches 1.200 (or maxed
out at 1.300 according to AMD dashboard) and the temperate starts climbing
reaching as high as 74 degrees. After stopping the CPU intensive process the
temp drops to about 64 degrees and then moves down to around 56-59 degrees at a
slower pace.
If I run Prime95 then the temp maxes out a 80 degrees!
I'm still waiting to hear back from Twinhead about this. I'm seriously considering unclocking / undervolting this laptop.
PentiumM is dead... (Score:5, Informative)
In other words, it crushes the Turion.
Re:Apple Refuses To Talk About Battery Life (Score:3, Informative)
It's all about price (Score:1, Informative)
It seems to me that AMD will price their chips so they will sell. If they have to price their chips at a tenth of what Intel charges for its best chips, they will. If they can't quite match Intel's performance, they will compete on price alone. Mind you, they won't give away the chips just for the joy of it. They will price them where they produce the best profit.
In any event, most people have all the computer performance they need. These days, most people won't pay double for a faster machine (gamers excepted). The bottom line is that there will still be a market for AMD chips.
Core Duo vs PentiumM vs Turion (Score:2, Informative)
http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/01/16/will_core_
Dual core turion (Score:3, Informative)
I'm not looking forward to it mostly because the socket has changed, so i can't upgrade my turion based laptop :(
Interesting match (Score:3, Informative)
The benchmarks come down to:
If the code and data fits in Pentium M's cache, Pentium M wins hands down.
For tasks like media encoding, where the problem doesn't fit into PM's cache, Turion wins hands down.
If you are spending much time at 100% CPU usage, Pentium M will give you better battery life.
Oh, and games? Both suck about equally well. If you want to play games, get a desktop.
Re:no centrino duo? (Score:4, Informative)
The problem with comparing the high-end is that these two companies leapfrog over each other every 6 months. And you seldom compare apples-to-apples that way. You might end up with a dual core power-hungry part against a single-core low-power part. For this test, they compared matching price points within the same series. That makes sense to me.
Re:What i really want! (Score:3, Informative)
Plus they're probably dirt cheap by now.
Re:What i really want! (Score:2, Informative)
It sure doesn't hurt that it's small and light and has no active cooling at all - the only sound is the very low murmur of the drive, and once it spins down the machine all but totally quiet (you can just hear the backlight if you put your ear right next to it).
So if you want something quiet and portable with excellent battery life, that is available today.
Re:It's all about price (Score:1, Informative)
Should have wrote "competitive," not outperfomed (Score:2, Informative)
Re:you must compare both proc and chipset (Score:4, Informative)
For power, yes, you need to consider the whole package, which they do, they aren't just measuring the CPU power consumption. They said: "We measured the power consumption of our entire test systems, except for the monitor, at the wall outlet". It appears they pretty much did what you suggested.
For performance, it's pretty much built into the tests.
Re:How about CPU Idle instead of mobile processors (Score:2, Informative)
AMD won on the idle performance, but lost on the 100% usage lvl as far as power consumption goes. And mention was made that notebooks are very very rarely at 100% CPU usage.
Re:It's all about price (Score:5, Informative)
Ok... and?
Just the chip:
760 (2M L2 cache 2A GHz 533 MHz FSB 90nm) $294
T2400 (2M L2 cache 1.83 GHz 667 MHz FSB 65nm) $294
Chip and chipset:
760 (2M L2 cache 2A GHz 533 MHz FSB) w/ Intel 915 PM Chipset and Intel PRO/Wireless 2915ABG $356
T2400 (2M L2 cache 1.83 GHz 667 MHz FSB) w/ Intel 945 PM Chipset and Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG $359
Re:mTurion MTs (Score:1, Informative)
Re:How about CPU Idle instead of mobile processors (Score:3, Informative)
The author DOES NOT ASSUME that a notebook CPU runs with 100% load. Power figures for both idle and 100% loads are listed, and the author mentions that notebooks will likely be idle more often than not.