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Dell Selling 30" Flat Panels 417

Posted by CmdrTaco
from the still-waiting-for-review-units dept.
bling..bling writes "Apple is not the only company selling 30" flat panel monitors. Dell is now offering a 30" flat panel display that has a native resolution of 2560x1600 and sells for $2,199. Just like the apple 30" display you do need a dual link DVI video card to drive this massive beast. This monitor also sports four USB ports and a media card reader. I've been waiting for Dell or someone else to release a 30" display and hopefully bring the prices down. I'm tired of the dual monitor thing, I want one display device on my desk, just make it a very large device. See the details on Dell's web site on the new Dell 3007WFP 30-inch widescreen digital flat panel monitor."
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Dell Selling 30" Flat Panels

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  • 4, 19 inch screens (Score:2, Insightful)

    by mtenhagen (450608) on Sunday January 08, 2006 @01:17PM (#14422009) Homepage
    For the same money you can buy 4 (or even more) 19 inch screens.

    Having several monitors gives you the ability to focus on the central screen while some applications (monitoring,chat,email, etc...) or on the side.
    These monitors can be moved placed on top of eachother turned to a collega, etc.. so they provide you much more flexibility.

    Also when one of the 4 screens dies thats not a big deal when your massive 30inch screen dies you have nothing.
  • smaller resolution (Score:4, Insightful)

    by sinucus (85222) on Sunday January 08, 2006 @01:27PM (#14422074)
    Why is it that except for the very large 20"+ LCD monitors it's impossible to get 1600x1200 res or better? I bought a laptop 6 years ago that had UXGA+ 1600x1200 res but I can't find an LCD monitor anywhere on the planet under 20" with that res or better. Anyone know of one? Or, anyone know how to disassemble old UXGA+ laptop screens and reframe them with new adapaters so they can plug into a vid card? I just can't seem to understand the companies that sell these things, I know that 1280x1024 is the size they seem to sell but you take one look around the office of any company and you'll see 90% of the office has resized their screens to 800x600 or 1024x768. It seems silly of them to stop at 1280x1024.
  • by toybuilder (161045) on Sunday January 08, 2006 @01:29PM (#14422085)
    The refresh methods of CRT's differ greatly from that of LCD's. Your eyes (or, rather, your eyes and your brain) are probably tuned to the CRT since you've been using that setup for a decade... Also, try adjusting the backlight intensity -- the LCD might actually be too bright for you!

    Also, the geometry of the screen may be an issue too. I remember when the first generation of "flat" CRT televisions came out, people used to curved monitors thought that the image looked inwardly curved...

    You may not have much of a choice -- CRT's are getting much more difficult to source these days, and when your current one dies, you may not even be able to buy a CRT that suits you!
  • by prichardson (603676) on Sunday January 08, 2006 @01:48PM (#14422178) Journal
    HIgher resolution != Smaller text

    Any decent OS or web browser will let you scale up font sizes. The end result is that your text is the same size, but smoother. The only problem occurs when sites do stupid things like make navigation bars images of text.

    Images, I admit, are another matter. I suppose the best thing here is to switch to all vector graphics that can be scaled up smoothly just like fonts.
  • by interiot (50685) on Sunday January 08, 2006 @01:55PM (#14422217) Homepage
    just to find the perfect balance of window size, far more than my dual monitor set up at home. Also, it's great to leave some 'desktop hogs' such as chat windows, the Google desktop, the task bar, and other items which would grab the entire vertical or horizontal axis, in the 'secondary window'.
    I have a widescreen at home, and use dual monitors at work, so I know exactly where you're coming from.

    The issues you bring up are window management problems. They're things that should be solved in software, rather than requiring you to spend good money to reconfigure your hardware. Optimally, switch to linux and configure the window manager's behavior until you're happy, possibly start off with a tiling window manager like ratpoison [wikipedia.org] or something.

    Also, widescreen threw me for a bit of a loop... webpages aren't designed to be viewed at 1920 pixels wide, and aren't designed for 16:9 / 16:10, and some of them end up being much harder to read than you'd think they would. I end up wanting software to "halve" the monitor so it acts like a left and a right half. So if you're really really stuck on using hardware to solve the window manager issues, I'd suggest not getting a widescreen.

    Also, widescreen really is the future: if you have a 50" widescreen monitor, and you sit a foot or two away from it, you don't need two of them. A widescreen monitor is shaped to fill your perhipheral vision well. We just need window managers to catch up now (especially Windows, if that's something we'll be forced to use at work).

  • Lame! (Score:2, Insightful)

    by emptycorp (908368) on Sunday January 08, 2006 @02:17PM (#14422306)
    Not only is this not tech news, but the last thing the tech world needs is free advertising for dell on Slashdot of all places.

    dell can gain some respect from me and other true computer users/builders when they leave the trifecta from hell (dell, intel, microsoft) and stop manufacturing their own crappy parts and stick in quality products like antec and corsair.

    Flaimbait? Not if you're a true computer tech.
  • by Ruie (30480) on Sunday January 08, 2006 @02:18PM (#14422310) Homepage
    I don't know for you, but flat panels make my head hurt. Literally. I know they're the latest craze and all, but I get one big headache after 1 or 2 hours AutoCADing with one. I can go a lot longer with my 10 year old 21" CRTs without headaches. I guess it's the light source or something, because I tend to get headaches with neon lighting as well

    One possible reason for such a headache is if your vision is slightly off. As you concentrate on the screen your eyes try to focus, but since they cannot do it fully the tension persists. The effect is pretty sensitive, so some people can read screens fine and are not aware their vision is in any way off, but get a headache if they do it for several hours.

    So I would suggest trying a new pair of glasses or lenses.

  • by suwain_2 (260792) on Sunday January 08, 2006 @02:34PM (#14422412) Journal
    I, on the other hand, would like to not have DRM in my computer monitor.

    Imagine if no one bought HDCP monitors. When Vista came out, it would blow up massively--people would be furious at having to either use really crappy video or buy a new monitor.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 08, 2006 @03:32PM (#14422743)
    "Dead" pixels aren't that annoying. It's those darned ALWAYS ON ("fixed"?) pixels that suck.
  • by Alain Williams (2972) <addw@phcomp.co.uk> on Sunday January 08, 2006 @03:35PM (#14422762) Homepage
    Well, I suppose that you had better report it to Dell as being out of spec and still in Warranty -- ask them to replace it.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 08, 2006 @04:56PM (#14423161)
    Dell can probably cheat more and Apple less. I suspect a higher percentage of Mac users (being in markets where color matters) have access to the hardware to measure these things.
  • by The Step Child (216708) on Sunday January 08, 2006 @05:12PM (#14423241) Homepage
    It is a pleasant thought, but I'm sure MS's plan is to just dominate through OEMs first. Force the OEMS to sell systems with only DRM monitors, and wham - in 3 years tops, you have market domination and acceptance of DRM monitors. Retail OS buyers are forced to follow.
  • by dbdweeb (598548) on Sunday January 08, 2006 @05:17PM (#14423271)

    Everyone is still thinking way too small. I've been thinking that I want something like HDTV on a computer with a 60 inch screen but that's still too small. So now I'm thinking about an interface consisting of a ceiling mounted projector with images on the wall from floor to ceiling. I want to be able to walk around and still see images no matter where I am in the room so I guess that means the projector needs to be on the other side of the wall in a closet. At work we have a 6 monitor solution that displays the status of servers in datacenters around the world so now I'm thinking a 6 monitor solution is barely an acceptable minimum.

    My human machine interface should be something like my home theatre... A big screen, a powerful 7.1 surround sound system and a comfortable recliner. I don't want to be bothered with a mouse, pointing my finger and uttering a few sounds should be sufficient. Waving my empty 12 oz bottle at the screen should be enough for my computing assistant to know that a refill is in order.

    Though I make a living working with machines I maintain that computers and robots are here to serve me and answer my every beck and call.

    D. B. Dweeb

  • by RevDobbs (313888) * on Sunday January 08, 2006 @05:35PM (#14423354) Homepage
    Or, to put it another way: a lot of smart geeks do it, and do it for a reason.

    A lot of smart geeks have questionable hygene habits and have sex with flowers. What is your point?

    Saying "just stop doing that" is stupid and doesn't address the reasons why they do it.

    Eh, maybe. I think that "smart geeks" (vs all the chicken head eaters out there) learn to use their enviorment to their best advantage -- or they re-code their enviornment. They don't whine about what what is out there and then, when presented with a work around, make some broad appeal to an imagined majority to justify their personal issues.

  • by prichardson (603676) on Sunday January 08, 2006 @08:59PM (#14424180) Journal
    Why shouldn't everything be well designed. The very fact that people settle for mediocrity guarantees that they will receive no better. Do you really think Microsoft would still be around of people demanded more? Do you think Linux would still be in its sorry state? Do you think Apple would be starting to show bloat?
  • by jp10558 (748604) on Sunday January 08, 2006 @11:24PM (#14424701)
    Keyboard shortcuts must really shine here... Once you know the shortcuts, keyboard based computing can be a lot faster than messing with the mouse in a lot of situations.
  • by kundor (757951) <kundor&member,fsf,org> on Monday January 09, 2006 @12:26AM (#14424897) Homepage
    He IS replying to your message. he is stating that there are no cards on the market that can drive a dual-monitor setup of two dual-link monitors; which is what you suggested in your first post.

    Of course the solution is to use two separate dual-link cards, but that doesn't seem to have crossed his mind.

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