BART Outfitted With Wireless 208
wyldeone writes "The San Fransico Chronicle reports that the BART subway system has been completely outfitted with cells to allow cellphone usage everywhere on the line. The network has been paid for entirely by Nextel, who leased out the lines to the other carriers." From the article: "Rae said BART and the wireless companies know some riders will try to make calls over the din as BART roars and screeches through tunnels. But most of the business, he said, will be from people using wireless devices to read and send e-mail or browse the Internet. 'You could use your Blackberry to take care of all your e-mail on your way to work,' he said. 'But the trains are really too noisy (underground) to have an intelligent conversation.'"
Not yet it hasn't (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Really that loud? (Score:3, Informative)
Verizon in D.C. Metro (Score:2, Informative)
Intelligent or intelligible? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:cell phone coverage != "wireless" (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Finally (Score:2, Informative)
Re:market share? (Score:3, Informative)
Zonk, your post kinda sucks (Score:4, Informative)
As an aside, I wonder what kind of restrictions were placed in the contract in terms of sharing with other carriers. From what I hear, VZW has the cell towers in the DC metro, and doesn't allow other carriers to use them (maybe selfishness; maybe gross institutional incompetence on VZW's part - it's hard to tell with them). If it's a public place like a subway, the people who build the network should be required to lease out to other people; it's in the public interest that everyone get to play, not just the people with service from the carrier that gets the contract. Of course, if we'd just used a single wireless standard like in Europe, then the point would be moot.
Re:Not yet it hasn't (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Not yet it hasn't (Score:4, Informative)
Nothing new.
And most cartunnels in the Netherlands also have GSM repeaters.
Re:Finally (Score:3, Informative)
I don't really agree with that assessment. Here in Stockholm, Sweden, we have what's known as the Pendeltåg (Commuter Train) which can take you over 90 km. (The longest distance from Gnesta to Nynäshamn).
A trip similar to what you describe would be Märsta to Södertälje centrum (73,4 km, or 45,6 miles for the metrically challenged).
A trip of that distance would set you back 5 "kuponger", costing you 15 * 5 = 75 kronor (about $9,40) if you pay cash. However, nobody here in Sweden is stupid enough to pay cash for that kind of trip, because you can buy 20 "kuponger" for a price of 145 kronor, meaning a trip will in practice cost 36.25 kr ($4,50). So, very comparable.
However, the Stockholm Pendeltåg is different in that it will let you take any connections within the Stockholm local transport system (buses etc) on the same ticket, effectively giving you more value for your money. (No paying for connecting buses on either end.) Also, a month pass for the entire Stockholm local transport network (giving you unlimited travel within the entire region, except to Bålsta and Gnesta) will set you back only 600 kr ($75,25 or so).
Now, the Stockholms Pendeltåg has its own drawbacks, not in the least that it won't do a very good job of taking you to Walnut Creek from Fremont.
Also, I don't take them very often, but they have their own problems, as with any rail network (leaves on the line, train worker strikes, breakdowns and delays) but from what I've seen on the rare occasion I do take a trip with a Pendeltåg, they're usually pretty clean and resonably comfortable.
Still, I just wanted to point out that the BART is in no way unique in its role as a medium-distance commuter train system.