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New IBM Ultra Fast Printer 277

Posted by CmdrTaco
from the only-a-half-a-millionbucks dept.
avxo writes "CNN/Money is reporting on a new IBM printer, that can print Tolstoy's "War and Peace" in less than a minute, by delegating pagination to a separate unit." Fully loaded it runs a million bucks. Plus the 330 pages it can print in a single minute is probably triple the pages I printed so far in 2005. I'm probably not the target audience *grin*
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New IBM Ultra Fast Printer

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  • War and Peace (Score:2, Informative)

    by roman_mir (125474) on Sunday September 11, 2005 @10:47AM (#13531439) Homepage Journal
    War and Peace [wikipedia.org] is 365 chapters and 1500 pages long.

    On this 330 p/m printer will take about 5 minutes to print.

  • Re:Paperless office (Score:5, Informative)

    by LennyDotCom (26658) <Lenny@lenny.com> on Sunday September 11, 2005 @10:48AM (#13531452) Homepage Journal
    And great news for rainforests, too.

    They don't use rainforrests for making paper. The biggest problem the rainforrests face is burning to make farms and grazing land.
  • Re:FYI (Score:5, Informative)

    by perky (106880) on Sunday September 11, 2005 @10:50AM (#13531460)
    RTFA.

    IBM last year was the market leader with a 49.6 percent share, followed by Oce (Research), based in the Netherlands., with 43.8 percent, according to InfoTrends.
  • Re:head spinning (Score:5, Informative)

    by cms108 (96258) on Sunday September 11, 2005 @10:58AM (#13531521)
    yep... 330 pages per minute would be a bit crap if you'd paid a million quid for a printer.


    but from the article... "Print at up to 330 linear feet (100.6 m) per minute (1,440 2-up duplex letter impressions or 1,354 2-up A4 duplex impressions)"


    so it actually prints at 330 feet per minute... which works out at about 1440 pages per minute. which is a bit better.

  • by monkeyboy87 (619098) on Sunday September 11, 2005 @11:02AM (#13531538)
    I remember in the early 90's Virginia Tech used to have some sort of IBM printer (pre lexmark) that could print staggering amounts paper. I remember them talking about skids of paper/min or hour. it looked more like a newspaper press with a big ole stream of paper and a bunch of scary knives at the end to do the paginagation. I remember the damn thing ate paper so fast that it had its own loading dock where the skids of paper were pushed off the back of the truck waiting to be consumed by the beast.
  • Re:War and Peace (Score:2, Informative)

    by ZakuSage (874456) on Sunday September 11, 2005 @11:06AM (#13531559)
    You're not taking the page size into account. Surely they used 8" x 11" rather then small novel sized pages.
  • Re:oh goody (Score:5, Informative)

    by AnomaliesAndrew (908394) on Sunday September 11, 2005 @11:08AM (#13531568) Homepage
    I work at a junkmail factory (as an in-house enterprise solution developer). We produce, personalize, and mail between 6 and 9 million pieces of mail every day of the year. We're already using "outdated" multi-color inkjet technology that prints over 1000ft per minute at over 3ft wide and it works great. We have like 6 of these machines and they cost only like $100,000 each.

    I didn't RTFA, but this seems almost as silly as Goodyear anncouncing they've developed a new "fossil fuel internal combustion powerwed 4-wheeled personnel carrier" for $90,000 when there's already been cars on the market for years at ~$15,000.

    Nothing to see here. I'm serious.
  • Re:War and Peace (Score:5, Informative)

    by stevesliva (648202) on Sunday September 11, 2005 @11:14AM (#13531591) Journal
    According to IBM that's feet, not pages, and it prints duplex: "Print at up to 330 linear feet (100.6 m) per minute (1,440 2-up duplex letter impressions or 1,354 2-up A4 duplex impressions)."
  • Re:Paperless office (Score:5, Informative)

    by Moloch666 (574889) <jeff-junk@tds.GINSBERGnet minus poet> on Sunday September 11, 2005 @11:18AM (#13531611) Journal
    To add to that. They actually grow tree farms for the purpose of making paper. Because of paper we have more trees.
  • by mykepredko (40154) on Sunday September 11, 2005 @11:40AM (#13531763) Homepage
    It sounds like there aren't a lot of /.ers that have worked in big iron shops. The replies to this article seems to have more inaccuracies than most.

    The 4100 seems to be part of the evolution for "big iron" laser printers starting with the 3800 [uky.edu]. These printers started out being centralized printers to reduce cost per page for large organizations AND for billing organizations.

    After the 1980s, I don't think a lot were sold to IT ("IS" at the time) organizations because having a single printer and distributing its output to different locations throughout a building is slow, expensive and time consuming - all the things using them was supposed to eliminate.

    Where the printers really made their niche was generating bills for various organizations. The advantage of a laser printer over traditional printers was that traditional printers used pre-printed forms which were more expensive and had to be precisely lined up for the billing information to show up in the appropriate locations. The advantage of a laser printer in this application is that it can print all the background information, logos, terms and conditions, etc. just as quickly as a traditional printer just put in the differing information but at a much lower cost.

    The 3800 and subsequent printers were/are the industry standard for these applications - very little of their output actually comes into the office except in the form of invoices from other companies.

    When IBM spun off its printer division (known as "LexMark"), they did not sell of the big iron printers. They make a ton of money for IBM and also drive other purchases for IBM hardware.

    It's probably more difficult now to see these monsters in action, but if you get the chance you should take a look - they are amazing. The old 3800s could print an entire 10" high box of 8.5 by 11 fanfold paper in just a few minutes and while cutting the paper appropriately. The "high end" models mentioned probably have letter stuffing hardware so the final output is a nice neat stack of bills all ready for shipment to the post office.

    myke
  • Hey everyone, the printer's not 330 pages per minute; its 330 feet per minute. Please see http://www.printers.ibm.com/internet/wwsites.nsf/v wwebpublished/4100home_ww [ibm.com].

    Quoting IBM: Print at up to 330 linear feet (100.6 m) per minute (1,440 2-up duplex letter impressions or 1,354 2-up A4 duplex impressions).

    I had a discussion with a friend that works in that division on Friday when this machine was announced. Apparently, 330 pages per minute was done about 30 years ago according to him (I have no idea what model, when it was, or anything else). Whoever wrote the initial story assumed whoever wrote the press release goofed and wrote feet when they obviously meant pages. ;-)

    This model of printer is designed to print on a roll of paper which is approximately 19.5" wide. The roll is then cut and collated by other machines.

    ~ Mike
  • by Dachannien (617929) on Sunday September 11, 2005 @03:12PM (#13532942)
    Depends on whether, for example, a line consisting of
    {
    is counted as a line of code or not.
  • by owlstead (636356) on Sunday September 11, 2005 @05:29PM (#13533560)
    Paper has very nice properties:
    - very fine print
    - colour possible
    - reads easily, even in low light / from an angle
    - bends pretty easily
    - rather light
    - pretty cheap
    - works with a variety of pens etc.
    - available in any size

    And also a few less favourable:
    - environmental problems
    - difficult to convert to digital (OCR is not that good, and scanning every page is time-consuming)
    - difficult to sort/search
    - it's only light in small quantities
    - difficult to destroy (completely)
    - not so good with water
    - slow to transport.

    The end of the paper era will only come if there is a digital equivalent to paper. I can see a letter sized map with e-Ink/flash/bluetooth succeed eventually to take over a small part of the market. It should at least be able to do the things paper does well, and then add some.

    Currently the paperless office only exists on PC's and maybe organizers/cell phones. These devices do have some properties that set them off against the unfavourable parts about paper. But they do not compete on readability, size, weight, cost. As long as this is the case, the paperless office is just a dream.

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