Stuk writes "Research & development company AtomChip have announced a new 6.8GHz 1TB RAM and 2TB HDD laptop, which is "coming soon". Apparently it does not use a hard disc, instead it is based on "solid state AtomChip® optoelectronics". A new "non-volatile Quantum-Optical" type of RAM is used. Other features include voice commands, "Num Lock mode, Caps Lock mode, Scroll Lock mode". They're spoiling us." If Nintendogs has taught me anything, it's that voice recognition is awesome and should be used for everything. *cough*. And also to be skeptical of this many buzzwords.
DNF is finished, but it's been rebundled as an exclusive release for Infineon's Phantom game console. They're waiting for the hardware to ship to customers...;)
The first time I heard about holographic memory replacing conventional methods (RAM/ROM/HDD), I was a kid just beginning work at NCR...let's see what the way-back machine says: 1991.
I've been waiting for 14 years for the technology to become real, and like nuclear fusion, I suspect I'll be waiting forever...
Quoth the poster: they claim the price will be $4.50 per GB of ram
So... the box as specced will cost nine grand just for the memory? This must be the system Thomas Watson was speasking of when he was quoted as "seeing a worldwide market for about five" of them (I'm paraphrasing, of course)
"The new AtomChip® Quantum® II processor with 256MB on-board memory has a high speed with very low consumption of electrical energy."
It uses very little elecrical energy. What I have to figure out though is what other type of energy it uses. I'm suspecting bullshit or some other type biological energy source.
...was everyone's bullshit detectors exploding in glorious unison. The earlier thread on OSNews has thoroughly debunked this device as a hoax. All you need to know is that 32-bit Windows XP only supports 16 gigs of RAM and this claims to have 1 terabyte of RAM.
And this, gentlemen, is why I don't pay for a subscription to Slashdot.
When I read the summary, I looked for the 'It's funny. Laugh' foot icon to the right, but my search was in vain...apparently, we're supposed to take this seriously.
In the article, there is a screenshot of a supposed 'System Properties' dialog box showing the following:
AtomChip(R) Quantum(R)
processor 6,80 Ghz, 1.00 TB of RAM
Never mind the indecision between using commas (6,80 Ghz) and decimal points (1.00 TB), but according to Microsoft [microsoft.com], the most physical memory a Windows XP Professional system can support is 4 GB (or 128 GB for 64-bit edition [msdn.com]).
Never mind the indecision between using commas (6,80 Ghz) and decimal points (1.00 TB), but according to Microsoft, the most physical memory a Windows XP Professional system can support is 4 GB (or 128 GB for 64-bit edition).
Well obviously they have a Quantum multi-core design, with eight cores each running XP Pro you get a TB of memory supported and the dialogue just adds it all up!
The whole comma/decimal point inconsitancy is a byproduct of the quantum design, which locks in actual characters used in a di
Well, if nothing else gives it away, how about the image of the stereo connector with a bunch of labels on it describing the optical components and the massive memory it contains:
Now, supposing you're a super genius engineer, who has come up with all this clever technology advancement which no one else has been able to think of. Do you: a) design a nice new physical interface for it? b) make it 100% physically compatible with devices it is not meant to be plugged into so that it can be easily accidentally damaged?
This site is a pretty thoroughly obvious fake. In fact, you pretty much have to assume that the fakers are intentionally leaving it sufficiently fake to avoid tricking anyone even slightly technologically inclined, and that it is in fact only targetted at trolling news media morons and slashdot editors.
Tagline from the website...
"Welcome to the world of nanomicrons and beyond!"
All credibility went out the window right there. Seriously, how much pot do you have to smoke to come up with stuff like this. My grandma can photoshop better than the morons at "Atom Chip Corporation." If anyone gives these people money, they deserve what they're getting - absolutely nothing.
The Register [theregister.co.uk] has a link to the company's press release [atomchip.com] with a few pictures. The so-called "Quantum II" processor shown in the "processor compartment" bears a striking resemblance to a mobile Pentium III chip with a heat pipe and fan assembly arranged almost identically to those in Dell laptops. The various
I find it very misleading to state that the speed of a quad system (4 1.7 Ghz processors) is the speed of each processor multiplied by the number (4 * 1.7 = 6.8).
After reading that portion of the specification, I find it difficult to read the rest of it without laughing openly.
Nice try.
Let me play: I have a 1.4 Ghz Thinkpad, a 2.8 Ghz HP Presario laptop, and a 500 Mhz iBook. Using the logic from the specifications at that site, those three laptops mean that I have a single 4.7 Ghz laptop? If so, please tell me how I can get Tiger to run at that speed on that 500 Mhz iBook!
...that with every order will come with two strippers to entertain you while you set the machine up. I mean, c'mon, Taco, if you're gonna give us a nerd hard-on, at least include something naughty, too.
Yeah, this looks like a corporate website. The admin contact is an @MSN.com address?! Check out the WHOIS info:
Registrant:
Shimon Gendlin
Shimon Gendlin
21 Reed Lane
Westbury, NY 11590
US
Email: atomchip@optonline.net
Registrar Name....: REGISTER.COM, INC.
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: www.register.com
Domain Name: atomchip.com
Created on..............: Sun, Aug 25, 2002
Expires on..............: Fri, Aug 25, 2006
Record last updated on..: Fri, Jul 29, 2005
Administrative Contact:
WIPOI
Shimon Gendlin
21 Reed Lane
Westbury, NY 11590
US
Phone: 516-368-4800
Email: shimon_gendlin@msn.com
Technical Contact:
Register.Com
Domain Registrar
575 8th Avenue 11th Floor
New York, NY 10018
US
Phone: 1-902-7492701
Email: domain-registrar@register.com
The screenshots show Windows reporting hard drive space and RAM measured in TB.. unfortunately it's Windows XP 32-bit which can't handle more than 4GB of RAM. Clearly a hoax...
Some versions of 32 bit Windows support PAE, which is an Intel extension for addressing more 4GB of RAM. You're still restricted to 4GB of virtual memory per process, though.
This is just a guess, but they probably just ressurected the segment:offset method. This is what allowed the 8086 to access more than 64k of memory.
Some current DRAM controllers have a 40-bit address, so Windows could do the shift and add ((segment << 8) + offset) of two 32-bit registers to get the 40-bit address.
Again, just a guess, but this has been done before.
Seeing that the the other specs are buzzwords really, I doubt it has 1TB of ram. It's probably some trade marked word they made up. For example, it says 6.8 ghz atomchip processor. But then you find out this is there word for 4x1.7ghz pentium ms. They use the word "or" to mean "in other words" here. Of course must of us know this really isn't equivilent to having one 6.8 ghz chip, though it should be fast. Also, it appears that there is no quantum technology in the ram. That's just a trademarked term
Y'know, I've seen Linux run on a washing machine. I've even seen Linux run on a toaster, but I ain't never seen Linux run on no phantom Atomchip laptop.
Does time travel as well (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Does time travel as well (Score:5, Funny)
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It actually does! (and they have the pictures!) (Score:5, Funny)
http://atomchip.com/_wsn/page5.html [atomchip.com]
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They forgot the most important feature of all (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:They forgot the most important feature of all (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Did no one else notice (Score:4, Informative)
4 x 1.7 = 6.8
is true,
4 x 1.7GHz != 6.8GHz
In other words a system with four processors running at 1.7GHz aren't going to deliver 6.8GHz of processing ability.
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Vaporware? (Score:5, Funny)
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Phantom? (Score:5, Funny)
DNF is finished, but it's been rebundled as an exclusive release for Infineon's Phantom game console. They're waiting for the hardware to ship to customers... ;)
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Time and again... (Score:5, Insightful)
I've been waiting for 14 years for the technology to become real, and like nuclear fusion, I suspect I'll be waiting forever...
Re:Time and again... (Score:5, Interesting)
they claim the price will be $4.50 per GB of ram
So... the box as specced will cost nine grand just for the memory?
This must be the system Thomas Watson was speasking of when he was quoted as "seeing a worldwide market for about five" of them (I'm paraphrasing, of course)
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Re:Time and again... (Score:5, Funny)
They certainly are bold claims. In fact, almost the whole damn site is in bold type!
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OBVIOUSLY LEGIT (Score:5, Funny)
Only an idiot would think that was fake. ARE YOU AN IDIOT??!?
Re:OBVIOUSLY LEGIT (Score:5, Informative)
The link also contains some contact info.
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Power (Score:5, Funny)
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"Battery Life: Approximately 8 hours for AtomChip® Quantum® II processor"
OTOH, I suspect that the true power usage for this laptop will be zero.
Seeing as vaporware doesn't actually draw any current.
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No, no, no (Score:3, Funny)
"The new AtomChip® Quantum® II processor with 256MB on-board memory has a high speed with very low consumption of electrical energy."
It uses very little elecrical energy. What I have to figure out though is what other type of energy it uses. I'm suspecting bullshit or some other type biological energy source.
Still not enough! (Score:3, Funny)
With all those powerhouse specs and without decent video, how am I supposed to play WoW on that?
The sound you just heard... (Score:5, Insightful)
And this, gentlemen, is why I don't pay for a subscription to Slashdot.
OSNews discussion link. (Score:5, Informative)
http://osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=11784 [osnews.com]
Read the debunking for yourself.
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Re:The sound you just heard... (Score:5, Informative)
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Re:The sound you just heard... (Score:3, Insightful)
Frequent articles, interesting stuff?
Inquiring minds want to know...
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Is it April already? (Score:3, Insightful)
Multi-tasking on Windows XP (Score:5, Funny)
Of course, maybe by "TB" they don't mean tera-byte, but instead 'tiny-byte', a brand new term meaning really, really freaking small.
Is it April First already? (Score:5, Informative)
When I read the summary, I looked for the 'It's funny. Laugh' foot icon to the right, but my search was in vain...apparently, we're supposed to take this seriously.
In the article, there is a screenshot of a supposed 'System Properties' dialog box showing the following:
Never mind the indecision between using commas (6,80 Ghz) and decimal points (1.00 TB), but according to Microsoft [microsoft.com], the most physical memory a Windows XP Professional system can support is 4 GB (or 128 GB for 64-bit edition [msdn.com]).
In short, I call shennigans.
Re:Is it April First already? (Score:3, Insightful)
Easy answer - mutli-core! (Score:3, Funny)
Well obviously they have a Quantum multi-core design, with eight cores each running XP Pro you get a TB of memory supported and the dialogue just adds it all up!
The whole comma/decimal point inconsitancy is a byproduct of the quantum design, which locks in actual characters used in a di
A fraud, according to the OSNews community. (Score:5, Insightful)
http://osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=11784 [osnews.com]
Some people have pointed out some interesting discrepancies in the images and so forth.
Re:A fraud, according to the OSNews community. (Score:4, Insightful)
http://atomchip.com/_wsn/page3.html [atomchip.com]
particularly:
http://atomchip.com/db4/00366/atomchip.com/_uimag
Now, supposing you're a super genius engineer, who has come up with all this clever technology advancement which no one else has been able to think of. Do you:
a) design a nice new physical interface for it?
b) make it 100% physically compatible with devices it is not meant to be plugged into so that it can be easily accidentally damaged?
This site is a pretty thoroughly obvious fake. In fact, you pretty much have to assume that the fakers are intentionally leaving it sufficiently fake to avoid tricking anyone even slightly technologically inclined, and that it is in fact only targetted at trolling news media morons and slashdot editors.
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W00t (Score:3, Funny)
I can't be bothered with this.
[Something about a beowulf cluster of these goes here]
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Nanomicrons...? (Score:3, Interesting)
Right. (Score:5, Funny)
Reminds me of a bong... (Score:5, Funny)
Fake, obviously (Score:5, Funny)
This image alone... http://atomchip.com/db4/00366/atomchip.com/_uimage s/256Mx6M.jpg [atomchip.com] (from http://atomchip.com/_wsn/page3.html [atomchip.com] )
It's the "NvIOpRAM 24GB [3-pin]", also known as the 1/4" to 1/8" gold-plated headphone adapter available at RadioShacks everywhere.
Highly dubious (Score:3, Interesting)
The Register [theregister.co.uk] has a link to the company's press release [atomchip.com] with a few pictures. The so-called "Quantum II" processor shown in the "processor compartment" bears a striking resemblance to a mobile Pentium III chip with a heat pipe and fan assembly arranged almost identically to those in Dell laptops. The various
Very misleading... (Score:5, Insightful)
After reading that portion of the specification, I find it difficult to read the rest of it without laughing openly.
Nice try.
Let me play: I have a 1.4 Ghz Thinkpad, a 2.8 Ghz HP Presario laptop, and a 500 Mhz iBook. Using the logic from the specifications at that site, those three laptops mean that I have a single 4.7 Ghz laptop? If so, please tell me how I can get Tiger to run at that speed on that 500 Mhz iBook!
Interesting they will be at CES 2006 (Score:3)
I would love to be there to see a demo... While being at CES doesn't mean its ready for the world it does mean this is more then just a prank.
Its a real company, with possibly real products although they could just be fishing for stupid investors also, Wish I could be there to find out
You forgot to add... (Score:5, Funny)
Domain Registration (Score:5, Informative)
Registrant:
Shimon Gendlin
Shimon Gendlin
21 Reed Lane
Westbury, NY 11590
US
Email: atomchip@optonline.net
Registrar Name....: REGISTER.COM, INC.
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: www.register.com
Domain Name: atomchip.com
Created on..............: Sun, Aug 25, 2002
Expires on..............: Fri, Aug 25, 2006
Record last updated on..: Fri, Jul 29, 2005
Administrative Contact:
WIPOI
Shimon Gendlin
21 Reed Lane
Westbury, NY 11590
US
Phone: 516-368-4800
Email: shimon_gendlin@msn.com
Technical Contact:
Register.Com
Domain Registrar
575 8th Avenue 11th Floor
New York, NY 10018
US
Phone: 1-902-7492701
Email: domain-registrar@register.com
DNS Servers:
dns1.register.com
dns2.register.com
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Some current DRAM controllers have a 40-bit address, so Windows could do the shift and add ((segment << 8) + offset) of two 32-bit registers to get the 40-bit address.
Again, just a guess, but this has been done before.
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Re:Yeah right (Score:3, Insightful)
But... (Score:3, Insightful)
Y'know, I've seen Linux run on a washing machine. I've even seen Linux run on a toaster, but I ain't never seen Linux run on no phantom Atomchip laptop.
Re:Very Funny (Score:5, Informative)
Now, the AMD64 chips can *AT MINIMUM* address 1TB, b/c they use 40 and 48-bit addressing.
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