Full Debian ARM for Under $200 233
An anonymous reader writes "With minor elbow grease, you can now set yourself up with a complete Debian ARM Linux box for under $200. This is thanks to Peter Korsgaard, who figured out a cool byteswapped kernel hack for the little $99 Linksys NSLU2. Add a $99 USB harddrive, and the tiny, cute, quiet 'Slug' can run any of about 16,000 Debian ARM packages, 24x7, for pennies per month worth of electricity, since ARM is still orders of magnitude more power-efficient than anything x86. Serve files, music, web pages, printers, backups, kernel images, webcams/motion detection, firewalls/routers, wireless access point... or whatever. Oh, did I mention you can overclock the Slug?"
Re:Stereo component (Score:3, Informative)
Already hacked (Score:5, Informative)
The Linksys NSLU2 has already been hacked [tomsnetworking.com] so you can run your own applications on it. :-)
Fans of this should check out openwrt.org (Score:5, Informative)
Getting there, but not yet perfect (Score:3, Informative)
But TFA says "built-in 10/100 (not yet supported in litte-endian mode)". If I read this correctly the device works, but the network port doesn't. Hopefully someone can correct me and confirm that the ethernet port does work.
This would be a perfect low-cost always-on media centre server for Slim Devices [slimdevices.com] Squeezebox Server [slimdevices.com]
Re:Fans of this should check out openwrt.org (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Already hacked (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Stereo component (Score:5, Informative)
get of their older devices for cheap on ebay, they rock. i've got 5 of them scattered throughout my house (3 different models, all running off the same server software on my debian box).
Re:Linux Sucks! (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Stereo component (Score:1, Informative)
Re:Overclock the slug? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Getting there, but not yet perfect (Score:3, Informative)
ARM processes things in what is known as a byte-sexual method, ie, either big or little endian. What tfa is saying is that eth0 port should work just fine under Debian ARM in big-endian mode (otherwise having this thing set up as a network storage device is pretty useless unless you're planning on exclusively USB hubbing it).
Re:Getting there, but not yet perfect (Score:4, Informative)
What it also says is that Debian ARM only supports little endian mode. I closed the page and now I can't get back to it, so I don't recall if he overcame this problem with the ethernet port.
Ethernet not supported (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Already hacked - Linux Appliance (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Think again, homies: (Score:5, Informative)
If you don't need a distro as large as Debian, you can run Unslung [nslu2-linux.org], which does support the built-in Ethernet.
Unslung uses ipkg for package management and has a simple installation using the native firmware. It is very stable, since it has been available almost since the Linksys product was announced. It is actively being developed and you can talk to the developers via IRC at #nslu2-linux on Freenode.
There is also a Yahoo group [yahoo.com] for running Linux on the NSLU2.
Re:Fans of this should check out openwrt.org (Score:3, Informative)
Not blazingly fast, but enough for most of us.
My Compaq laptop can only do about 1.5MB/sec using SSH anyway. FTP is obviously faster.
Re:I've been waiting for this! (Score:4, Informative)
Cheaper? Granted, by at least 5x. More efficient? Less power, certainly, can't attest to what efficiency you're shooting for -- if its CPU cycles per cubic inch, not likely. Faster? If I put an identical IDE drive on a firewire bridge, the MacMini will be faster than some USB implementation.
Who cares about the warranty when you're doing something like this? With a Mac Mini, you're not voiding the warranty by loading an alternative OS anyway.
My Linux box is a PowerMac 7600 with a 500MHz G3 upgrade card, running PowerPC Debian. PowerPC doesn't have all the support of the x86 world in Linux (and ARM is even worse), but Debian provides a great platform to provide support for us non-x86 platform users.
If you don't want to mod... (Score:5, Informative)
Unslung can be installed without using a serial port modification, because it simply uses the built-in Linksys web administration to upgrade the firmware to the Unslung distribution.
Once Unslung is installed, it only takes a matter of minutes to have your NSLU2 running Samba, OpenSSH, Apache, Slimserver, and even Asterisk!
Re:Project page slashdotted, but I have questions. (Score:3, Informative)
Unslung supports USB memory sticks, so you don't actually have to use a HD with it.
Also, I have a 40 GB Segate attached to mine that is USB powered.
It still might use more power than the WRT54, but at least you don't need anymore power than is available with the NSLU2's adapter.
Re:Read Slashdot post, Read TFA, Order NSLU2. 5 Mi (Score:4, Informative)
I've tried (Asterisk is already ported for Unslung [nslu2-linux.org]). Unfortunately, the NSLU2 just isn't powerful enough for that.
You can get one side of a conversation at most, and it's really jittery.
Try it out anyway - it's an easy install with Unslung!
Re:More Secure? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Stereo component (Score:3, Informative)
http://gumstix.com/spexExpnsion.html [gumstix.com]
They're super small, (shuffleish sized), do usb, ethernet, and other stuff. Runs linux out of the box. XScale processors start at 200Mhz. The price is right too.
x86 power consumption (Score:3, Informative)
This is utter bullshit.
On this page [nslu2-linux.org] it says that at 133MHz, idle, the board consumes 8.6W. There are plenty of embedded x86 boards that run lower power and/or higher clock frequency.
For example, here's a board [ampro.com] that runs at 133MHz, 5 Watt at 100% CPU load.
Re:Practically useless (Score:2, Informative)
I don't see why the inability for some people to program the device should reflect on it's capability (and I wouldn't call VoIP trivial)
Limited memory :-( (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Stereo component (Score:3, Informative)