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Logitech Cordless Desktop LX500 and LX700 Showdown 255

msftmichael writes "CoolTechZone reviews Logitech's latest LX500 and LX700 Cordless Desktop Duo products. The author discusses problems with software, compares and contrasts the two products, and talks about wireless technology in a very in-depth review. Here's a quote: "Both of the products we are reviewing use RF (Radio Frequency) receivers to communicate between the mouse and your computer. It operates on the 27 MHz frequency, which is good for short range communication through less than 2 physical barriers. At this relatively low frequency, interference can occur due to proximity to other electronic devices, which is why Logitech recommends that you keep the receiver 8 inches (20 cm) away from your monitor or computer. They also recommend against putting it on a metal surface, and for good reason. While on top of our steel computer case, we could not get the keyboard or mouse to communicate with the receiver."
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Logitech Cordless Desktop LX500 and LX700 Showdown

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  • Ah... the good 'ole days of trying incessantly to uncurl that mouse cord in the right direction... those were the days.

    • the good 'ole days of trying incessantly to uncurl that mouse cord in the right direction

      Totally! I found a day of laying it in the sun helped though. Maybe we need more hardware that can be fixed by warming it up...
  • by jackcarter ( 884148 ) on Thursday May 26, 2005 @04:56PM (#12648922)
    Why would you want to have to recharge it and pay extra? This written with an MX500 next to me.
    • by Espectr0 ( 577637 ) on Thursday May 26, 2005 @05:50PM (#12649382) Journal
      Who modded this funny? Parent is right. Wireless mice/keyboard/and such peripherals are stupid. You are using the thing NEXT to a computer. WHY do you need the range? Why pay more? Why have to use batteries?
      My intellimouse explorer keeps working after like 8 years. I guess this is a "me too", mod me redundant
      • Typical slashdot response of it's not what I need, so why do they make it?

        Well, let's think for a second. We use them in all our conference rooms here because we pass the keyboard & mouse around to different people during meetings.

        I could imagine using one at home because I like to hook my laptop up to the TV to show photos or watch DVDs or I have a really nice large TV and I want to surf the web that way sometimes.

        You know it also might be kind of nice to have had this in the lab I used to use, plac
      • Wireless mice/keyboard/and such peripherals are stupid. You are using the thing NEXT to a computer.

        From a practical standpoint I agree.
        I bought a wireless keyboard and mouse set because it looks great on my fancy, modern art style desk. The cords would ruin the effect. That's right, I bought it to look good.

      • As far as cordless mice goes there are a few good reasons:

        -A cordless optical mouse can go anywhere. If someone wants to show you something using your computer, you don't have to get out of your seat. Just hand them the mouse and they can use it on their lap. It's also very useful for when you don't have a full desk area (like with a laptop), you can have makeshift mousing surfaces out of just about anything and not have to worry if the cord will reach.

        -A cordless mouse stays put when not in use. This
      • I have a Dell 2405FPW; it's a 24 inch widescreen LCD that also doubles as a very nice HDTV. Being that it's a lot nicer than the 7 year-old, 21 inch GE piece of garbage TV I've got sitting out in my living room, I typically use my PC for movies and whatnot. When I do that, I find lying on my bed to be a lot more comfortable, and my wireless mouse and keyboard come across the room with me.

        What's more, I plan on getting a 40 inch 1080p-capable DLP in the next year or so, which I can use in an entertainment c
    • A agree with you on wireless keyboards, but as for wireless mice, I think it's pretty nice not to have a damn cable that can sometimes cripples your movements, and get stuck somewhere on your desk. (I have yet to buy one myself though, because the mouse I use right now works fine enough)
    • Because wires get in the way. I have a large desk, with lots of crap in it. The number of times I've put something down and it's ended up on top of the mouse cable, only to go flying next time I use it...

      Anyway, you might not want it, great. I would never buy a corded mouse or keyboard again. The less wires the better, period.
    • If you find the right store, you could get a Microsoft Natural Elite keyboard and a Logitech MX500 mouse pointer (one I use and really like!) for under US$50. (In my case, thank you, eBay! :-) ).

      I don't see the point of wireless keyboards and mouse pointers under the system box is far away from where you put your monitor, keyboard and mouse pointer.
  • RTFA = NFW! (Score:5, Funny)

    by EtherAlchemist ( 789180 ) on Thursday May 26, 2005 @04:57PM (#12648930)

    Sorry, but no fucking way am I reading a 10 page review for a keyboard and mouse.
    • Sorry, but no fucking way am I reading a 10 page review for a keyboard and mouse.

      There's actually 11 pages; and really all you have to read is the last page, because aside from the pictures, the previous 10 don't include any information not found in the summary on page 11.

  • So... (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 26, 2005 @04:57PM (#12648931)
    we're calling mice "desktops" now?
    • This isn't just a review of the mice. It is a review of the mouse+keyboard wireless combo's. So to call it a "Wireless Desktop" is fairly accurate.
  • Excuse me? Are you trying to tell me that they just invented the cordless mouse and keyboards? Boy.. I guess I'm ahead of times, I have been using it for quiet sometime now.
  • by GweeDo ( 127172 ) on Thursday May 26, 2005 @04:58PM (#12648937) Homepage
    If IE isn't set as your default browser...why would they open it for the search and email buttons? If Firefox...Opera or whatever is your default browser their software needs to honor that. Until they can get that much right I will not purchase one of their products.
  • modern desks (Score:5, Insightful)

    by hotdiggitydawg ( 881316 ) on Thursday May 26, 2005 @04:59PM (#12648955)
    interference can occur due to proximity to other electronic devices, which is why Logitech recommends that you keep the receiver 8 inches (20 cm) away from your monitor or computer.

    Who has that much room on their desk? Especially room that is also 8+ inches away from any other electronic equipment? I've got printers, a scanner, a KVM switch, a phone, a stereo and speakers. Unless I tape the receiver to the side of my head, I've got nowhere to put it.
    • I don't think they meant all electronic devices, just anything capable of interfering with the setup, such as monitors and cases full of RF emitting stuff.
    • Hmm. My receiver is behind my monitor, and i never had a problem.
    • by Darth McBride ( 749942 ) on Thursday May 26, 2005 @06:03PM (#12649457)
      You can always tape the corded receiver to the wireless mouse...
    • I have the 700, it's a great combo. As for the position of the receiver, it's on my (wooden) desk, rught under the LCD and next to a speaker. The keyboard itself is about 18 inches away. No problems at all.
    • Here comes one of me stories - this one's why I've always been wary of rf-based peripherals (this and a wireless keyboard where the batteries lasted about a day):

      Back in the 1980s we had a CAD suite based on IBM PC-ATs running Daisy DNIX - a variation on XENIX.

      The CAD systems came with their own furniture 'stations' and so the position of the system unit, keyboard, monitor and graphics tablet were pretty much 'fixed'.

      Trouble was that the puck on the graphics tablet (used to input your co-ordinates by mov
  • What ever happened to bluetooth mice? I can hardly find them anymore, and haven't seen the Microsoft bluetooth keyboard or mouse for a long time. Did they just suck, or what's the deal?

    My experience with wireless mice has been that they are laggy - you move the mouse and the pointer is late to catch up with your movement. Most sane people can't notice that, apparently, but it really got on my nerves. But I'd like a bluetooth mouse for my Powerbook if they don't suck too bad.
    • I have the MX900 Bluetooth Mouse + an Apple Bluetooth keyboard.

      I love them and wouldn't think of switching, and I bought them fairly recently so I know they are still available. No drivers for the MX900 for OSX, but it doesn't matter as I was able to map the buttons through System Preferences. But you need a Bluetooth adaptor as the logitech hub/cradle doesn't work with OSX (though it works fine for charging).
    • Seems to me with the few models I've used that the bluetooth models suck down more batteries than the dumber RF interfaces. Either way I would go with a recargable solution with a dock. Changing batteries is a hassle.

    • Re:Bluetooth (Score:5, Informative)

      by the_rev_matt ( 239420 ) <slashbot AT revmatt DOT com> on Thursday May 26, 2005 @05:15PM (#12649113) Homepage
      I went through quite a few BT mice before I found two that work consistently and have reasonable battery life.

      The MS and Kensington mice were buggy on OS X and slightly better on XP. The Logitech bluetooth mouse was a complete joke, didn't work with anything but XP and not very well at that (tracking was hopeless, battery life was worthless). A few other brands I don't recall were OK, but weren't very comfortable.

      I ultimately settled on the iogear bt mouse for the laptop and the MacMice bt mouse for the desktop. I hear Apple's mouse is solid but I can't give up my scroll wheel.
    • Re:Bluetooth (Score:3, Informative)

      by SoCalChris ( 573049 )
      I've got the Microsoft Bluetooth Explorer mouse for my laptop, and wouldn't want anything else.

      I don't notice any lag on it, but I don't really play any FPS games either. The only annoying thing about it is that if you don't use it for several minutes, it goes into sleep mode, and it takes about half a second to wake up when you start using it again. Other than that, I don't have any complaints about it.

      I was originally skeptical about the battery life on the mouse, because it doesn't have any way to
    • My local Best Buy store always has in stock at least 1 model of Bluetooth kb+mouse. Been thinking of getting one for some time, but at $150 they'd better not suck.

      Heh, I just searched bestbuy.com and they sell an Apple keyboard with Bluetooth for $80 and an Apple Bluetooth mouse for the same price.
    • Re:Bluetooth (Score:2, Interesting)

      by Nivoset ( 607957 )
      i think its the fact, the wireless keyboards that arnt bluetooth, are 100$
      and all the wireless bluetooth ones i see (the same brand and model) are around 200$

      just a bit to much of a price jump to try bluetooth. and the batteries in my wireless keyboard last longer than my lease do.
  • Odd... (Score:4, Informative)

    by thephotoman ( 791574 ) on Thursday May 26, 2005 @05:01PM (#12648972) Journal
    I use the LX 700 (which I bought earlier this month) as my keyboard and mouse. I don't have any problems with reception with the reciever on top of my box, which is about the only place where I have room for it, due to my desk size.

    Furthermore, I use Linux, where the drivers aren't compatable, but the hardware works very well. The side buttons on the mouse even work as an extra center and right click, which comes in handy from time to time.

    Of course, the function keys don't work, but that's not a problem. I wouldn't use them even if I was using Windows.

    Also, the mouse fits my hand quite well, which is rare for a mouse.
    • Re:Odd... (Score:3, Informative)

      by Laxitive ( 10360 )
      If you ever decide that you do want to use those buttons.. you might want to look at 'hotkeys'. Not sure about the homepage, but it's an apt-get away in debian.

      Most of these fancy button keyboards generally end up mapping their special keys to specific keycodes in X. So all you have to do is trap those keycodes in X and map them to run a command of your choosing. Thankfully, hotkeys does most of the hard work for this (interfacing with X, binding to keycodes). All you have to do is give it an XML file
      • Has anyone actually tried this with the logitech LX700?

        I've got the gnome key mapping set up for some of the keys, but the rest don't even show a key code in xev, so I'm not sure how you'd map them
    • XMMS has a nice plugin to deal with that. Although it's designed for Logitech iTouch keyboards, it's configurable, so it should work with the hotkeys on any keyboard.
    • Re:Odd... (Score:3, Informative)

      by aonaran ( 15651 )
      You can use the side buttons properly in X, you have to set these options in your XF86Config or xorg.conf:

      Section "InputDevice"
      Identifier "Configured Mouse"
      Driver "mouse"
      Option "CorePointer"
      Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
      Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
      Option "ZAxisMapping" "6 7"
      Option "Buttons" "7"
      EndSection

      Then add this to /etc/X11
  • Why isn't bluetooth being used more in mice and keyboards? I have a Belkin bluetooth mouse, bluetooth in my Palm Zire 72, and I love using it. It seems to me like Logitech would be a great company to do bluetooth. Up until I got my current mouse, I always bought Logitech mice... but then they didn't have bluetooth.
    • Logitech has a bluetooth. It sucks. I returned the first one I bought because I thought it was defective it tracked so badly and dropped connection constantly. Logitech showed no interest in providing support so I returned the replacement one I bought as well. Microsoft's and Kensington's BT mice are OK if you are strictly and XP user, Kensingtons' is a little better ergonomically.
  • Wireless Keyboard? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by nukem996 ( 624036 ) on Thursday May 26, 2005 @05:06PM (#12649023)
    I current have a wireless mouse(Logitech MX 1000) and I like the freedom of not having wires because it does not get stuck on some of the random crap on my desk. Why would someone want a wireless keyboard? Your keyboard stays in one place, you never move it nothing can get in the way. Ive never had any problems with my RF mouse next to all of my other electronics, it doesnt work across my room but it works all around my desk.
    • Why would I want a wireless keyboard?

      Because my keyboard does move and wires do get in the way. My keyboard is usually somewhere on my couch or coffee table. My computer is always on the other side of the living room (connected to the HDTV).
    • i've got my computer under my coffee table with dual 19" flat panels on top. with the wireless keyboard and mouse, i can sit on my couch and compute comfortably. it would suck to have a keyboard cable getting in the way...
    • by radish ( 98371 )
      I have a lot of crap on my desk. Trailing wires (e.g. to a keyboard) get tangled and get in the way. I love having a wireless keyboard.
    • Why would someone want a wireless keyboard? Your keyboard stays in one place, you never move it nothing can get in the way.

      No, your keyboard stays in one place. Mine moves from the end-table where I keep it when not in use, and my lap, neither of which are within cord distance of my computer.
  • It operates on the 27 MHz frequency, which is good for short range communication through less than 2 physical barriers.

    Yeah, until your kids start driving the ZipZap mini RC cars in your office.

    Are cords really THAT bad?
  • by DancesWithBlowTorch ( 809750 ) on Thursday May 26, 2005 @05:07PM (#12649037)
    ... that's... erm... one physical barrier, isn't it?

    Besides, what is a "physical" barrier anyway? Air? Sheet of Paper? Block of lead? Sorry, but that doesn't sound like a very insightful review.
    • In my experience (and yes, I have one of these keyboard/mouse combos), if the receiver is on the shelf above my desktop, I can't put the mouse on the floor underneath the desk and have the receiver pick it up. So that's a distance of, what, maybe four feet? And two physical barriers, each being about an inch of melamine-coated particle board.

      I was a little disappointed in the range on the mouse. Range on the keyboard is much better. Maybe the difference is due to the fact that the mouse uses a rechargable
  • by Steve Cox ( 207680 ) on Thursday May 26, 2005 @05:08PM (#12649045)
    I just got the Logitech MX1000 mouse today. The Logitech driver disk is probably the same as the one that comes with these mice installs additional third party crap even if you unselect everything. Pretty low from a suposedly reputable company - if I'd wanted 'MusicMatch', 'RealOne Arcade' or a handy link to eBay on my desktop I would have put installed them myself. It's fine bundling third party stuff with your (fully paid for) products - just make sure the end user has the option to UNSELECT ALL OF them from the install.

    Oh yeah the driver weigh in at an unbelievable 22M. WTF? Its a mouse. With a few programmable buttons.

    The drivers are only needed if you want use the extra buttons for non standard uses. If you need them, stop the CD from autoplaying and browse for the SetPoint installer by hand.

    Steve.
    • Or, since there's this new thing called the internet, you could just download the new drivers.

      I honestly didn't even bother with the CD when I installed my MX1000 about 6 months ago... just downloaded the latest, fired it up. No extra software here for me.

      I'm real spoiled at home now though. I keep looking to push on the buttons to do the full page down/up on my mouse at work; I'm constantly trying to tilt my work mouse's wheel sideways (it's just a plain 2 button wheel mouse), and I'm always getting i
    • I always liked the on-screen display for caps lock being turned on, etc.

      You can get that with other software I'm sure, but it is another nice thing with the driver.
  • Boycott Logitech (Score:3, Informative)

    by null etc. ( 524767 ) on Thursday May 26, 2005 @05:12PM (#12649078)
    I wish we could, but their products are too damn good.

    Anyways, what problems do I have with logitech? I hate the fact that they change their wireless receiver base every time they come out with a product. I just upgraded my wireless mouse to a 1000 series laser mouse, but I had to buy the new laser / keyboard combo because I didn't want two RF adapters on my desk. Can't logitech figure out a better way to deal with this?

    Also, I hate the mouse button compatibility that Logitech has yet to resolve. Microsoft mouses just seem to support all the buttons.

    • ... I had to buy the new laser / keyboard combo because I didn't want two RF adapters on my desk. Can't logitech figure out a better way to deal with this?

      They did. It's called Bluetooth. Seriously. Bluetooth the best standardized way to replace wires attached to periferals and Logitech does have a bluetooth mouse [logitech.com] and keyboard [logitech.com] that are pretty good. You shouldn't have to switch RF adapters again for some time to come.

      Problems? There were some configuration problems earlier with Bluetooth due to dev
    • How often do you "upgrade" a freaking mouse anyway?

      Is the laser so much better that you had to buy it? Is your other mouse broken?
    • Hey, their competition is Microsoft. I'd rather buy Logitech.
  • ...if there were a solution for also handling the video display wirelessly (which is what I thought the article was going to be about since it said "wireless desktop"). For just desk IO, other than that, why bother? Infrared or RF, pick one.
  • by dan dan the dna man ( 461768 ) on Thursday May 26, 2005 @05:21PM (#12649170) Homepage Journal
    I'm not normally one to rag on Slashdot, hell I spend enough of my time here, but this is article is just a waste of everyones time. Overly long, completely uninteresting. There's levels of geek I'm prepared to admire, and levels of obsession about minute details that I find repugnant.

    A few points - why the hell would you want a kb that can't be used in certain positions? A triumph of what over what here? Money over common sense springs to mind..

    I still don't get bluetooth equipment let alone RF to be honest. I'd really hate to be at a LAN party and watch as my mouse and/or keyboard goes down due to a lack of batteries.

    People buying these things have been suckered, big time. For the price of a lack of cable you pay extra and then pay for extras on top? You're the capitalist dream.. seriously.

    The point about wireless, really, is wireless connectivity. It's nice to be able to open my laptop all around my campus and log into the wireless network and not worry about where the nearest ethernet jack is. But why do I ever want to use my keyboard or mouse anywhere other than in the immediate proximity of my bloody PC? If I'm going to be that obsessed with no wires I'd just use the laptop *all the time*. No wires here. Oh except the power cord. Make that wireless and I will be impressed.

    And yes the immediate slew of 'well it's useful for my media centre' posts that defend this kind of technology - just stand up for once in your sofa ridden lives to press a button. It won't kill you.

    I cut down on the wiring I needed. It's called a KVM switch.

    God now I feel I'm getting old, getting dissolusioned with the state of technology today...
    • I didn't get bluetooth until I had a kid. Being able to easily pull the kybd/mouse off the tray and put them on top of the monitor without having cables all over the place and in the way when I'm trying to use them is worth the five dollars more I paid for the keyboard and the fifteen dollars more I paid for the mouse.

    • I personally don't have room for the cords. I know. It sounds unlikely, but not having to worry about the mouse and keyboard cords has improved my ability to get work done on my incredibly small desk. Of course, ditching the old ergonomic keyboard also helped, but the big thing is that I'm no longer tripping over the mouse and keyboard cords when I leave my room, as my computer is right next to my door due to a lack of anywhere else to put it.
    • > People buying these things have been suckered, big time.

      Funny, I bought mine so I could lay back on the couch and surf on my TV.

      I couldn't imagine running cords all over the damned livingroom.
    • Another problem with wireless: they all use the same frequency! Even the infrared ones interfere with each other. Bring one to a LAN party, and you better hope you're the ONLY one at that LAN party with a wireless! Sort gives "getting owned" a whole new meaning.
    • The media centres all come with remote controls now, so there is no need for wireless keyboard or mouse... wanna type while you're sitting on your couch in the living room, then get a laptop.
    • Oh please. So you don't want one, thats just fine and dandy, but I'm sick of all the people on here saying how they're useless and that anyone buying them has been suckered. I love my LX700, and wouldn't have bought it if I didn't think it was worth the money. It is, and I'd never buy a corded set again.

      But why do I ever want to use my keyboard or mouse anywhere other than in the immediate proximity of my bloody PC?

      I don't. But maybe I don't want wires chasing all over my desk either?
  • Logitech Mice (Score:2, Insightful)

    by SparksMcGee ( 812424 )
    Much as I disdain replying to blatant slashvertisements (or is it just a slow news day?) I have to note that the lack of left-handed mouse options in high quality mice like the LX700 has to stop. Although those of us who mouse left-handed comprise a comparatively small market, I can't see offering a left-handed ergonomic mouse (just invert all the curvature--heck, look at a right-handed mouse in the mirror and there's your design reference) as representing so great a difficulty that not even one decent lef
    • Well the recent Microsoft Wireless Optical Mice (not IntelliMouse Explorer) seem to be symmetrical, and should be on the level of those of Logitech. Not to mention the Razer Diamondback, which is a top quality (wired) mouse.
    • To be quite honest, I don't think the market for left-handed mice is really significant. I'm left-handed and use my mouse with my right hand, and everybody else I know who's also left-handed do the same. In fact, in my entire life I've only seen one person use his mouse on left.

      Anyway, ergonomic mice are annoying. Get a symmetrical mouse. Logitech's original optical mouse is my favorite, even the left and right buttons are at the same height (that is a common error in symmetrical mouse design!). I like the
  • by abelikoff ( 412709 ) on Thursday May 26, 2005 @05:26PM (#12649210) Homepage
    Not that I want to sound paranoid, but has anyone given a thought about the security of the protocol employed by wireless keyboards? I wasn't able to find any reasonable treatment of the subject on the Net.

    I do however have a nagging feeling that because the signal is short-range by design, the security measures implemented within the protocol are minimal and/or naive. WEP initially looked like a very well thought out security framework and it turned out to be a disaster. Something tells me that whatever is used by wireless keyboards is not even on WEP level.

    Just like we have WarSpying [securityfocus.com] intercepting signal from wireless cameras, nothing in theory prevents anyone from coming up with a receiver made from RadioShack parts that intercepts wireless keyboard signal. The implications will be much more serious than a couple of teenagers oogling at someone in underwear strolling around her apartment.

    Until there is an honest discussion about wireless keyboard security, I don't feel that the risk is adequately compensated by the convenience.

    • I don't know about keyboards that use proprietary RF protocols, but the Bluetooth specification allows for the use of encryption.

      I know that at least one manufacturer of a Bluetooth wireless keyboard claims "secure 128-bit, over-the-air encryption keeping sensitive information safe as it is being typed."
    • The LX700 supports encryption, but it's not enabled by default. You have to go into the supplied configuration application and elect to turn it on, at which point it goes through a little routine that takes about a minute. I don't remember how it goes exactly, but over the course of the minute it asks you to do various things -- push this key, push that key. Then it says you're done, and communications between the keyboard, mouse, and receiver are henceforth encrypted.

      I can't speak for the encryption proto

  • But if you had a Beowulf cluster of the running Linux, would you get the works of Shakespeare?
  • Yet another device that can be disabled from a nearby CB radio :)
  • So I guess I cannot use my RC car while I am typing anymore?

    These RC cars use one of the following channels:

    1 - 26.995 MHZ - Brown
    2 - 27.045 MHZ - Red
    3 - 27.095 MHZ - Orange
    4 - 27.145 MHZ - Yellow
    5 - 27.195 MHZ - Green
    6 - 27.255 MHZ - Blue
    Source: http://rcvehicles.about.com/cs/frequencies/p/airfr eqUS.htm [about.com]

    There are also some el cheapo electric RC airplanes using this 27 MHZ channels.

    Ok RC car, turn left (asdkljfhl;asdkfa) ups... where did that garbage on my computer come from?

    Hmmm.. Coul
  • ...is that you've got to constantly replace the batteries! I've got a logitech wireless mouse that recharges itself when returned to it's cradle. But with a keyboard, just have somebody set something on top of it, and when you come back to it, the batteries will be dead! (The keyboards shut themselves off when not in use, but if any key is left pressed, they think they're in use constantly transmiting that key.)

    I also tried a Belkin travel mouse for my daughter because it fit her 4-year old hand size, but w

  • by DogDude ( 805747 ) on Thursday May 26, 2005 @06:41PM (#12649704)
    Personally, I've sworn off all wireless products until they quite simply quit sucking. In my mind, any lack of functionality of my mouse or a keyboard feels like a throwback to 1970, and is completely unacceptable. I'm constantly looking for a better keyboard/mouse that can keep up with me. Any input device that drops ANY data is again, 100% unacceptable. I personally stick with the old IBM, wicked heavy, clicky-click keyboards, and optical (wired) mice.

    The last thing I need is one more thing that can break, and I guess that's what it comes down to. These technologies are still entirely too new, and too buggy. I want *MORE* reliability, not less. PC's are problem-prone enough without having to worry if the lowest-tech, simplest piece of my system (the keyboard) is working properly.
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