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Intel Dual-Core Systems Begin Shipping Monday 231

ThinSkin writes "The wait for Intel's dual-core processor is over, that is if you're willing to fork over some dough for a Dell or Alienware system bundled with the chip. Intel just announced that Monday marks the first day dual-core systems hit the market with Dell's Precision 380 workstation and its next generation Dimension XPS desktop, which start at $2,999. PC Magazine got a chance to play with the XPS system and came away quite impressed."
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Intel Dual-Core Systems Begin Shipping Monday

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  • XPS review (Score:5, Informative)

    by shreevatsa ( 845645 ) <<shreevatsa.slashdot> <at> <gmail.com>> on Saturday April 16, 2005 @09:43AM (#12254440)
    Is just that -- a review of Dell's XPS Gen 5, rather than a review of Intel's dual core, actually. Still,I guess there's a bit about dualcore.
  • by Ledskof ( 169553 ) on Saturday April 16, 2005 @09:44AM (#12254443)
    HP was, and still is taking orders for Dualcore Opterons systems:
    http://theinquirer.net/?article=22553 [theinquirer.net]
  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 16, 2005 @10:17AM (#12254612)
    The UltraSparcIV is a dual-core chip. Been shipping for quite a while now - maybe even more than a year.

    And just like the first UltraSparcs from about a decade ago, it's also fully 64-bit....
  • by SuperQ ( 431 ) * on Saturday April 16, 2005 @10:38AM (#12254726) Homepage
    Are you slow or something?

    Dual core != Dual Processor

    Besides, there have been dual core Power4 systems, dual core mips chips for a while now.. this is only new for x86 desktop systems.
  • Re:XBox (Score:2, Informative)

    by taskforce ( 866056 ) on Saturday April 16, 2005 @10:44AM (#12254749) Homepage
    No, the Xbox uses POWER based cores.

    CPU - Xenon's CPU has three 3.0 GHz PowerPC cores. Each core is capable of two instructions per cycle and has an L1 cache with 32 KB for data and 32 KB for instructions. The three cores share 1 MB of L2 cache. Alpha 2 developer kits currently have two cores instead of three.

    Here are the other specs. GPU - Xenon's GPU is a generation beyond the ATI X800. Its clock speed is 500 MHz and it supports Shader 3.0. Developers are currently working with an alpha 2 GPU. Beta GPU units are expected by May and the final GPU is slated for a summer release. The final GPU will be more powerful than anything on the market today; in game terms, it would handle a game like Half-Life 2 with ease. System Memory - Xenon will have 256 MB of system RAM. Keep in mind that this number should not be equated to typical PC RAM. The Xbox has 64 MB of system RAM and is a very capable machine. Optical Drive - As many have speculated, Xenon will not use Blu-Ray or HD-DVD. Games will come on dual-layer DVD-9 discs. While the media is the same as that of the current Xbox, the usable space on each disc is up to 7 GB. The drive is slated to run at 12X. Memory Units - Xenon will use 64 MB to 1,024 MB memory cards. 8 MB is reserved for system use, leaving a 56 MB to 1,016 MB for user data. Hard Drive - As many have speculated, Xenon's hard drive is optional. 2 GB of the drive will be used as game cache. The final drive size is still being determined. Camera - Xenon will have a USB 2.0 camera. It's capable of 1.2 megapixel still shots and VGA video. Photos can be used in-game and for gamer profiles. The camera can also be used for video chat. It's unknown if the Xenon camera will allow for EyeToy-like gameplay. Developers are currently using a simulated camera driver. Sound Chip - Xenon does not have an audio chip in the traditional sense. Decompression is handled by hardware, while the rest of the chores are handled by software. DirectSound3D has been dropped in favor of X3DAudio. The former was deemed too inflexible.

    If anything these will be more like the DualCore G5s comming up in the the future for the PowerMac G5s.

  • Re:XBox (Score:4, Informative)

    by rpozz ( 249652 ) on Saturday April 16, 2005 @10:51AM (#12254791)
    Yes. The next Nintendo console will be PowerPC-based, and the PS3 will use the Cell, which is PowerPC-based (I think). The PS3 also claims to be using multiple CPUs.

    What I can't understand is how these companies are planning to deal with the enormous amount of heat that will be dissipated from a multi-CPU system, and not make the console sound like a jet engine at the same time. Anyone able to shed any light on that?
  • by free2 ( 851653 ) on Saturday April 16, 2005 @11:33AM (#12255005) Homepage
    "nice" was meant for this.

    With Linux you can also use "chrt" to specify that some task is "realtime": it will always get as much scheduling as it wants (make sure it will not loop endlessly though).
  • by canuck57 ( 662392 ) on Saturday April 16, 2005 @11:59AM (#12255153)

    You complain that Dell is over priced while singing the praises of Apple in the same breath? How very amusing! I can't believe you even presume to be serious about this.

    At $2999 for the Dell, and $2999 for a dual G5 2.5GHz from Apple, I would say Apple has the value here. But if you rather, you can buy the Dell... I am saving my pennies for the Apple.

  • Re:I don't get it (Score:4, Informative)

    by l3v1 ( 787564 ) on Saturday April 16, 2005 @12:05PM (#12255206)
    I don't get it

    Yes, you obviously don't. Hyperthreading is not in any way like a dual processor or dualcore processor. On a HT processor you still can have threads waiting and not doing anything because another thread which is using e.g. the single FPU that the system has. If two computationally heavy threads want to run, they have to wait for their turn on the single FPU. And that is just one example for HT. On dualcore and dual processor systems you have everything doubled, which is a Good Thing.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 16, 2005 @12:28PM (#12255389)
    You're comparing Apples to Dells here...

    According to the article, the Dell has a 20" LCD, a Radeon x850, a dual layer DVD+/-RW as well as a DVD-ROM drive, 500GB of disk and 1GB of ram, a 5.1 surround sound speaker system and has dual TV tuners. An Apple dual G5 configured that way? For $3,000? I'd LOVE to see that. Coming even close to that runs well over $5000 without the speakers or TV tuners.

    And this Dell is STILL a rip off!
  • Re:No thanks (Score:3, Informative)

    by NanoGator ( 522640 ) on Saturday April 16, 2005 @02:05PM (#12256072) Homepage Journal
    "I still haven't found anything that truely taxes my existing 3.2ghz P4. "

    In all seriousness, you'd probably see the difference right away when running on a dual. It's not so much about getting things done faster, but getting two done at one time. In Windows, anyway, I noticed a big difference when switching to Dual. If I start an app, for example, Explorer doesn't just sit there waiting until it's done loading. It's still there, ready to go, presumably because it still has CPU resources.

    Dual core is a different philosophy, not just another stab at prettier benchmarks. Frankly, I think it's kind of sad that dual machines didn't become more mass market in recent years.

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