The Lost 1984 Mac Video 636
An anonymous reader writes "Never seen video footage of the introduction of the Macintosh in January 1984 was published for the first time on the Internet today. Renowned Mac user Scott Knaster kept that Betamax video tape for 21 years, and German media agency TextLab has unearthed this only surviving video tape of the launch." They could probably use more mirrors for the 22MB movie.
Erm, Lost!? What!? (Score:5, Informative)
Mirror (Score:5, Informative)
http://mirror.services.wisc.edu/mirrors/temp/1984
Here we go... (Score:5, Informative)
You can try a time sliced download here [slashdot.org], and if this is overloaded (it probably is), there are mirrors at macnews.de [macnews.de], php-schmiede.de [php-schmiede.de], ppcnux.de [ppcnux.de], ftp.ppcnux.de [ppcnux.de], MacTechNews.de [mac-software-updates.de] and elbewerk [mac.com].
And now that the US are with us, you guys could back us up with some mirrors. Thanks bunches to all the folks who are helping us out!
Mirror (Score:2, Informative)
Not just "me too-ing"... (Score:2, Informative)
So, add one more to the list of people who swear this is not quite a "first time ever"
Re:Betamax? (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Mirror (Score:1, Informative)
BitTorrent mirror here (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Insult to injury (Score:5, Informative)
http://www.preinheimer.com/1984macintro.mov
Decent box, I say odds are good it makes it, if not, no worries.
Re:Betamax? (Score:3, Informative)
Mirror (Score:2, Informative)
BitTorrent (Score:5, Informative)
North American Mirror (Score:5, Informative)
Good Luck fair box
Re:Here we go... (Score:3, Informative)
Just trying to help
TORRENT (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Mirror (Score:3, Informative)
Text described for the bandwidth impaired (Score:5, Informative)
Steve Jobs ca. 1984 is speaking on a stage in front of an audience, suit coat and bow tie, these are his pre-jeans-and-black-turtleneck days. He tells the audience "All of the images you about to see on the large screen will be generated by what's in that bag." The lifts the black bag to reveal a Mac on a table (applause) he inserts a diskette into the Mac and steps back. The word MACINTOSH slowly scrolls across the screen to the tune of "Chariots of Fire" (wild appluase) Screen shots of paint program, word processor and calculator, fonts, program editor, 3d chess (cheering, applause). Steve introduces Macintosh speaking for itself. A bad robotic voice reads a few paragraphs of text on the screen. (applause, cheering) (wide shot of audience appluading) (end)
I do recall the days when PC DOS and the Apple II ruled the world and first time I saw a Mac in action was easy to recognize it was a big step forward.
Torrent (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Erm, Lost!? What!? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Amazing... (Score:2, Informative)
NOT the 1984 Commercial (Score:5, Informative)
It's a video of the actual introduction by Jobs at an Apple event.
Screen shots, speech synthesis, Jobs in a bow tie.
Interesting to see what geeks in 1984 cheered at, but that's about it.
Re:Here we go... (Score:4, Informative)
Yeah... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:How do you say... (Score:5, Informative)
Slashdotted in German?
As the Heise Newsticker [heise.de] tends to have the same effect as Slashdot on linked sites, the term "geheised" is a accurate translation of "slashdotted".
Re:NOT the 1984 Commercial (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Erm, Lost!? What!? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:never seen? (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Funny... (Score:1, Informative)
- smarmy sig omitted
Re:How about a bittorrent? (Score:3, Informative)
Yes. [bittorrent.com]
Torrent mirror (Score:3, Informative)
Re:never seen? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Betamax? (Score:5, Informative)
> robust format.
This is a common misconception, but no. The magnetic tape used is almost identical and will last roughly as long. VHS and Beta, using magnetic tape and analog formats, are very long-lasting and decay gracefully.
You might see extra noise and dropouts on a 25-year-old VHS or Beta, but it will play perfectly fine as long as it wasn't stored in a hot or wet place. Hot and wet is great when you're with a lady, but not when you're storing media.
high-bandwidth mirror (Score:5, Informative)
also,
http://www.acm.uiuc.edu/~staffin/1984macintro.mov [uiuc.edu]
Try this (Score:3, Informative)
No not so much (Score:3, Informative)
Re:How do you say... (Score:2, Informative)
Macintosh Folklore (Score:5, Informative)
(I'm not associated with folklore.org or Andy Hertzfeld or anything. I found the site a couple weeks ago while googling for little rubber feet [google.com], and got hooked.)
This was part of Cringely's excellent documentary (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Behold the speaking computer! (Score:3, Informative)
Festival speech [ed.ac.uk]
75% as good at AT&T Natural Voices - and it's free, with a BSD like license.
Quite good when set up properly.
Mirror (Score:4, Informative)
Moo 10 Mbps mirror moo moo:
http://www.trunkmonkey.com/content/view/52/51/ [trunkmonkey.com]
It strikes me that Jobs was an asshole his whole.. (Score:2, Informative)
The presentation wasn't about Macintosh, it was about Jobs. The pictures were of jobs, the digitized voice was about jobs.
The guy never said "This was a team effort". Look at when the digitized mac voice say "he's been like a father", the guy grins like he really was a father.
The only thing worse are the Mac fanboi's cheering every little... nothing. If jobs said "You guys should all be killed", they would have cheered him.
No wonder he was fired. He deserved to be.
Re:Behold the speaking computer! (Score:5, Informative)
Compare a public domain TTS like rsynth [cmu.edu] to a free, but commercial quality TTS like festival [ed.ac.uk] or Bell Lab's [bell-labs.com]. It's funny how rsynth sounds a lot like the mac (although rsynth doesn't have a bunch of predefined settings to do different voices, you have to set all the parameters yourself to make it sound exactly like Bruce).
TTS technology doesn't move terribly fast. the TTS that was in the Mac 21 years ago is basically the same technology 30 years ago. But that's no excuse for Apple not to have moved on to using diphonemes or triphonemes like other systems. Apple is behind, but in the TTS world, 20 years behind is not all that far behind. (unlike say the harddrive world, where 20 years behind is the difference between 100s of gigabytes to 10s of megabytes. ouch)
Re:Wost encoding job EVER (Score:5, Informative)
This movie was encoded using Sorenson Video and QDesign Music. They are both poorish choices for downloadable video nowadays, with MPEG-4 being preferred. The codecs used date back to the tail end of the era when QuickTime was mostly used for CD kiosks and presentations, and just when QT was starting to develop towards Internet streaming applications.
At least it wasn't done in Cinepak and MACE...
Re:filmed at Davies Symphony Hall? (Score:1, Informative)
Re:BitTorrent (Score:5, Informative)
http://www.keyholedesign.com/1984macintro.torrent [keyholedesign.com]
What is the world coming too when even 7k text files get
Re:How do you say... (Score:2, Informative)
dot = Punkt
so...
Schrägstrichpunkten?
Australian mirror (Score:2, Informative)
(Brisbane, Australia)
Re:Text described for the bandwidth impaired (Score:3, Informative)
3 1/2 inch floppies (Score:3, Informative)
That's why everyone claps right at the beginning, he pulls the floppy out of his pocket(!) and sticks it into the computer.
People watching today might not realize that the Mac did not have a hard drive. One was later provided as an expensive extra option. But initially the Mac had only a floppy drive to boot from.
Those were the days... I loved the Mac. I bought one back in 1984, the first GUI I'd ever used. Then a year later I laboriously unsoldered the memory chips and upgraded the system from 128K to a whole half a meg of memory. I can't count how many Macs I've bought over the years since then... we've got 7 right now, counting the 2 my kids in college have.
Re:Erm, Lost!? What!? (Score:2, Informative)
Another mirror (Score:2, Informative)
Re:never seen? (Score:2, Informative)
Try this URL: http://www.uriah.com/apple-qt/movies/Apple.1984.m
No worrying about dropout because of network traffic and even works with dialup.
Kevin