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LCD Screen for Image Editing 168

An anonymous reader writes "Most image editors will tell you that the colour accuracy on an LCD monitor is still nowhere near as good as a high quality CRT. Although this is generally true, this new screen from NEC is definitely a big step forward for the LCD cause."
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LCD Screen for Image Editing

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  • hmmm (Score:2, Interesting)

    by sabernet ( 751826 ) on Sunday December 19, 2004 @11:17AM (#11130020) Homepage
    If they can pull it off, all the better, but I'm still of firm belief that OLED or color-digital-ink will be the only thing to replace CRT in terms of color sharpness once they're actually useable.
  • by Darkn3ss ( 812009 ) on Sunday December 19, 2004 @11:19AM (#11130032)
    In 2005 we are expected to have flat (just a little thicker than LCDs) CRT monitors. Since the makers are promising that these monitors will be cheaper than their LCD counterparts, wouldn't saavy buyers just wait until then and get a higher (or equal) quality monitor at the same price?
  • The apple 30 inch (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 19, 2004 @11:23AM (#11130057)
    Whats the colour quality like on these
  • Yeah... (Score:2, Interesting)

    by BJH ( 11355 ) on Sunday December 19, 2004 @11:35AM (#11130128)
    ...but have you tried looking for a decent CRT these days? Nanao/Eizo, which used to be my favourite monitor manufacturer, has zero models available. Many other manufacturers have at best a limited range.

    It might be better there in the US, but here in Japan, it's getting hard to find anything but el-cheapo 15-inch CRTs (for people who can't afford/don't want to spend the money on an LCD) these days.
  • by mindstrm ( 20013 ) on Sunday December 19, 2004 @11:59AM (#11130247)
    Apple Cinema displays.

    Apple is loved by artists all over the place, yet apple doesn't have a CRT anymore, only LCDs.

    Are Apple LCDs somehow far far better for color calibration? If not, it seems odd that they would drop CRTs from the menu.
  • Delta E calculations are made on displays where I work such that 1 delta E is the limit of acceptable colour change on a monitor. More than that over the range of Code values and the monitor fails.

    The BEST LCDs have about a 10 delta E. If you figure 1 Delta E calc is equivelent to 50% of the population seeing a change and 50% of the other 50% guessing (therefore 75% say "Yes, there's a change") then that means LCDs ... suck.

    WHEN they make an LCD that acts as a lambertian light source they will see a change for the better. Until they do this NEC monitor (Don't know if we've tested it yet, to be honest, but I had heard we had some NECs in that were pretty good- and that meant 9 Delta E's compared to the 20 before) is a nice word processor doc, but never ever ever will it be certified for imaging...
  • by advance512 ( 730411 ) on Sunday December 19, 2004 @12:06PM (#11130291)
    I am a programmer with the Israeli army.

    My unit has serious problems with physical space (we are positioned in an old building, I think it was originally built by the British army circa 1940 - too damn small). We need all the space we can get. (Is this sounding like a radio commercial?)

    We used to work with 21" and 22" IBM CRTs. IBM CRTs are acknowledged as some of the best out there (like almost anything IBM does.. except, maybe, for the Java IDE ;]). The problem was that the CRTs are huge - taking large amount of space, and that using them for over 10-12 hours a day was simply painful for the eyes, whatever refresh-rate you use.

    Since then we've received a few of the latest IBM ThinkVision 19" LCD screens, and it's a great improvement. I can work for longer periods of time without physical inconvenience, text crispness is improved (using ClearType fonts) and I can actually see my desk.

    Also, in my opinion the color and crispness of the graphics has improved. Nothing like Laetitia Casta in true color :) This is only my personal opinion, though - some graphic designers might have a different opinion.
  • Re:games (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Twirlip of the Mists ( 615030 ) <twirlipofthemists@yahoo.com> on Sunday December 19, 2004 @12:41PM (#11130522)
    The need for color calibration in print production is way overstated. There are some areas in which having a color-calibrated workflow really helps, like catalog production for example. But for most print work, it's just not helpful. To use your example, Coca-Cola Red is a specially defined printing ink. It's not a process-color mix. That is, control over the color of Coca-Cola Red happens on the printing press, not in the computer.

    Like I said, there are people who really benefit from a color-calibrated workflow: camera to computer to printing plate. But for everybody else, it's just a big waste of time and money.
  • Re:hmmm (Score:2, Interesting)

    by IdleGod ( 811284 ) on Sunday December 19, 2004 @02:04PM (#11131063)
    I've heard about some new display out of Canada called the iFire. It uses thick-film dielectric electroluminescent (TDEL) technology. Has anyone else heard of it? And can anyone else comment on it if they have?

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